Where do our souls go when we sleep?

[Peacelily]

this link explains all!
http://www.christianforums.com/t2313881-where-does-our-soul-go-when-we-dream.html

 

[TrustAndObey]

3 posts explains it ALL?

 

[DeaconDean]

I get a lot of flack because of my opinions but I believe just as Jesus said. It all depends on whether or not your saved when you die. Just like the rich man you can wake up and find yourself in hell. On the other hand, you will (if your saved) wake up like Lazarus in Abraham's bosom.

 

[TrustAndObey]

The parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man is a parable about the choices we make in life, not about what really happens to us when we die.

 

[DeaconDean]

See what I mean ^. I guess we can't take the parables (I dont believe this is a parable) and apply then to life?

 

[TrustAndObey]

It is a parable...and here's how we know for sure it is:

Matthew 13:34 - All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: (Jesus spoke ONLY in parables to the multitudes).

When Jesus told the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man was there a multitude around Him? Luke 15:1 - Then drew near unto him ALL the publicans and sinners for to hear him. Yes.

Lazarus and the Rich man was the last parable out of 5. Starting in Luke 16:1 Jesus tells the following parables: The parable of the Lost Sheep, the parable of the Lost Coin, the parable of the Lost Son, the parable of the Shrewd Manager, and the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man.

The parable of the Shrewd Manager begins EXACTLY like the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man; “There was a certain rich man…..”

But yes, the parable should be applied to our lives. It tells us that you can be rich and ruthless on this earth while you're living, but you will be LOST for eternity if you do not have Christ and live a Christ-like life.

 

[Archivist]

I alwys liked the explanation of this topic that was in an episode of the comic strip Calvin and Hobbes:

Calvin: "I wonder where we go when we die?"

Hobbes: "Pittsburgh?"

Calvin: "You mean if we're good or if we're bad?"

 

[TrustAndObey]

I alwys liked the explanation of this topic that was in an episode of the comic strip Calvin and Hobbes:

Calvin: "I wonder where we go when we die?"

Hobbes: "Pittsburgh?"

Calvin: "You mean if we're good or if we're bad?"

LOL...I lurve Calvin and Hobbes

 

[DeaconDean]

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe the Bible? Do you believe in scripture? It seems that you don't. If you did then the following would apply:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" 2 Tim. 3:16

Evidently you don't believe that this passage in Luke is scripture because if you did whether or not it is a parable wouldn't matter. It is scripture and "is profitable for doctrine." Those aren't my words, there're in the Bible.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Let me ask you a question. Do you believe the Bible? Do you believe in scripture? It seems that you don't. If you did then the following would apply:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" 2 Tim. 3:16

Evidently you don't believe that this passage in Luke is scripture because if you did whether or not it is a parable wouldn't matter. It is scripture and "is profitable for doctrine." Those aren't my words, there're in the Bible.

Deacon Dean, of course I believe in the Bible, I just quoted from it didn't I?

It IS profitable, even though it is a parable. It tells us that being rich on earth will mean NOTHING in terms of our salvation if we do not live a Christ-like life and give to the poor like He told us to. Lazarus had to beg for scraps of food. The Rich Man was a bad man.

It's a parable, that's the only point I was trying to make. Scripture tells us Jesus only spoke in parables to the multitude and there was a multitude gathered around Him when He told this parable (along with four others).

In the parable a great gulf exists between Lazarus and the Rich Man. This gulf is so vast in expanse that it is impossible for those on one side to pass through to the other side. In spite of this statement, the Rich Man is able to recognize both Abraham and Lazarus as well as hold an intelligent conversation?

Suppose that the righteous could see the wicked in the afterlife. Would a mother in heaven be joyful seeing her son or daughter in hell and crying to her for just a drop of water? Wouldn’t heaven seem like hell to HER? Wouldn’t God seem unjust?

There's no need to get angry or judgmental DD, I was just trying to show you that it IS a parable about our life choices, not about what happens to us when we die.

 

[DeaconDean]

There's no need to get angry or judgmental DD, I was just trying to show you that it IS a parable about our life choices, not about what happens to us when we die.

Are you one who believe's in soul sleep then?

 

[alwayselearning]

The parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man is a parable about the choices we make in life, not about what really happens to us when we die.

This IS actually what happens to us when we die. ( or at least what used to happen to us.)

Abraham's Bosem is called paradise. This is actually a place.

Luke 23:43 Jesus tells the thief on the cross "today you will be with me in Paradise"

 

[TrustAndObey]

Are you one who believe's in soul sleep then?

Our souls sleep every night. Genesis 2:7 tells us man became a living soul. We don't have souls, we are souls. Animals are souls as well. This is all already being talked about in another thread and I am too tired to repeat everything I've already said.

http://www.christianforums.com/t2300552-soul-and-spirit-a-revelational-definition.html

 

[DeaconDean]

Then I guess the thief on the cross didn't go into paradise with Jesus when they both died. I guess God called Moses and Elijah up from the grave to meet Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration then. I guess Satan is in a grave and not Lord of the bottomless pit then. I guess I'm wrong about the Bible entirely. I guess I've believed in a lie all my life then. I guess I'll give up Christianity altogether then if the Bible is lying then. What's the use in believing in something that lies to us.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Then I guess the thief on the cross didn't go into paradise with Jesus when they both died. I guess Satan is in a grave and not Lord of the bottomless pit then. I guess I'm wrong about the Bible entirely. I guess I've believed in a lie all my life then. I guess I'll give up Christianity altogether then if the Bible is lying then. What's the use in believing in something that lies to us.

Cripes man! Why are you so defensive? I'm allowed to give my point of view as well, and notice that I give scripture when I do.

Dean, Jesus didn't go to Paradise the day that He died. We know this because He told Mary on resurrection Sunday that He had not yet ascended to the Father. Also the thief and Jesus died on two different days. It was a misplaced comma in Luke 23:43...no need to give up your Christianity so calm down.

If someone telling you to read the HUNDREDS of verses that talk about death being a sleep, and about the resurrection of the dead, somehow threatens you.....you need to calm down and have FAITH brother.

Take it to the other thread, okay? I don't think peacelily wanted her thread to turn into someone giving up their faith over some different observations about what the Bible says.

 

[SpeakNow]

Wow...ye of little faith. You would give up your faith in Christ if you thought we sleep when we die? That's pretty sad.

 

[DeaconDean]

Also the thief and Jesus died on two different days.

So Jesus didn't die on the cross huh?

"Jesus when He had cried again with a loud voice, yeilded up the ghost." Matt. 27:50

"And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and give up the ghost." Mark 15:37

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." Luke 23:46"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." John 19:30

Jesus didn't die on the cross huh?

 

[oldsage]

what amazes me is, knowing there are several different views on the bible, this is a "christian only" section, and the question gets asked, "Do you believe in the bible"

If they didn't then they would not be allowed to post in this section.

Then I guess the thief on the cross didn't go into paradise with Jesus when they both died. I guess God called Moses and Elijah up from the grave to meet Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration then. I guess Satan is in a grave and not Lord of the bottomless pit then.

Now, it seems you have many not too well thought through ideas on the passages in question. Starting with the top, outside of what Jesus told the thief on the cross where does it say Jesus went to heaven "that day"...can it be shown in scripture that he didn't go? of so, would it be the understanding you have about what was said is wrong?
Next, Moses and Elijah, we don't know if that was real OR a vision as the text says it was. Depends on your preconceive ideas. and the last one, where in the bible does it say that Satan is the lord of the bottomless pit?

I guess I'm wrong about the Bible entirely. I guess I've believed in a lie all my life then. I guess I'll give up Christianity altogether then if the Bible is lying then. What's the use in believing in something that lies to us.

This type of response is quite childish and doesn't promote anything. Because someone has a different view you spout out "Well I guess the bible is lying then" when the person you are talking with is USING THE BIBLE to support their beliefs. The bible is NEVER being question, but YOUR view of it is. So, there is no fault in the bible, only faut in other peoples ideas of what it says.

Chris

 

[Kvikklunsj]

*sigh* The thread is about where our souls go when we're sleeping (as in dreaming - so it's not referring to death or "soul sleep" or anything else)...

 

[TrustAndObey]

So Jesus didn't die on the cross huh?

"Jesus when He had cried again with a loud voice, yeilded up the ghost." Matt. 27:50

"And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and give up the ghost." Mark 15:37

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." Luke 23:46"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." John 19:30

Jesus didn't die on the cross huh?

Dean, I never said Jesus didn't die on the cross. OF COURSE HE DID!

The thief's legs were broken and he was taken down on Sabbath. Jesus died on Friday, at Passover.

You need to quit putting words into my mouth and quit acting this way please. It is scary to watch.