Where did your god get his powers?

[loudatheist101]

Does anyone know where God got his powers? How could you make the universe by just saying "Let there be light" and etc? *HOW* does his magic actually work? Did he "just do it"? Who gave him his powers?

Remember intelligent answers please, no; "He was always there" and no; "God is not ligically explained" because I find that as an excuse and made up answer to questions like I'm asking.

 

[ArnautDaniel]

Radioactive spider.

 

[The Nihilist]

from his ring. remember, though, he has no power over anything yellow.

 

[fuzzyh]

Why would someone have to give him his powers?

Although, his ring may not be far off.

 

[loudatheist101]

Well I can name like, 10 Bible Verses from Exodus you probably would wish was never written. Anyway, does anyone have a real answer though?

 

[Asherz]

Where did the universe get its energy?

 

[fuzzyh]

I wondering what those 10 verses are and if they relate to this idea where God got his power?

 

[MoonlessNight]

So what is the assumption that we are working from here? That everything is powerless (i.e. has no potential to cause events) until it is given power? But this giving of power is in itself an event which is presumably enacted by some agent, which itself must have been given power and so on to infinity.

But let's be tricky and look at it this way: this entire chain of events is in itself a system which clearly has an effect on the world, so it itself needs power. We can't just say "oh well the chain of power extends back infinitely without beginning" because the chain of power is itself a thing which needs to be given power, hence it needs a beginning.

So it is impossible to answer your question, because it presumes a universe which is itself impossible and absurd.

 

[Verv]

Does anyone know where God got his powers? How could you make the universe by just saying "Let there be light" and etc? *HOW* does his magic actually work? Did he "just do it"? Who gave him his powers?

Remember intelligent answers please, no; "He was always there" and no; "God is not ligically explained" because I find that as an excuse and made up answer to questions like I'm asking.

I am sorry, but this is similar to asking monkeys how humans became so smart. There is no way that they can answer it being that they have never even begun to fully study or fathom the origins of us, let alone the specific details.

Can a lower being even properly study a higher being?

Is it fair to asks monkeys how we are so powerful?

 

[quatona]

Is it fair to asks monkeys how we are so powerful?

Which of course raises the question whether it´s fair to expect monkeys to acknowledge our greater power, in the first place.

 

[Verv]

Which of course raises the question whether it´s fair to expect monkeys to acknowledge our greater power, in the first place.

If a monkey could communicate, he would certainly say "uncle" after we tortured him for a few days and executed his family.

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But you do bring up a point. What is power?

If knowledge is power, we are more knowledgable.

If ability to inflict pain on another person is power, than we are more powerful.

What other definitions are there?

 

[WingsOfTheNeophyte]

I define power to be the output in Joules per second

Since our technological advancements, we are able (with some aid) to output significant amount of Watts

Thereby being more powerful

The Architect of the universe (be it God, or something else) needed to output significant amounts of energy,

To create matter e=mc2 God would have to output a significant amount of power, we can actually calculate Gods power, by taking all the matter and energy in the universe in account and divide by time it took for the bang .... well to go off

 

[quatona]

If a monkey could communicate, he would certainly say "uncle" after we tortured him for a few days and executed his family.

I´m afraid I do not understand what you are trying to communicate here.

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But you do bring up a point. What is power?

Well, you made comparisons of the power of different beings, so I guess you meant something with that "term". Let´s go with this meaning on which your statements were based. What is it?

If knowledge is power, we are more knowledgable.

If ability to inflict pain on another person is power, than we are more powerful.

Than monkeys?
But I am sorry - I don´t seem to understand what all that has to do with my post.

In response to your (presumably rhethoric) question:

Is it fair to asks monkeys how we are so powerful?

I wrote:

Which of course raises the question whether it´s fair to expect monkeys to acknowledge our greater power, in the first place.
How could they know we have greater power than them, if we would not directly demonstrate our power (in a way that makes them feel comparably powerless)?

 

[Upisoft]

Source of my God's power?

Behold, DURACELL

He will last longer, much longer!

 

[Verv]

Youw ould demonstrate your power to a monkey through violence. Violence means dominance. Dominance means power. Monkeys demonstrate their power to each other through a similar means.

 

[quatona]

Youw ould demonstrate your power to a monkey through violence. Violence means dominance. Dominance means power. Monkeys demonstrate their power to each other through a similar means.

Exactly my point: We would have to demonstrate our power by using means that they understand as powerful. And, getting back to your analogy, unless god demonstrates his power to us in a way that makes us discern him as more powerful ("power", as we understand it), we can not only be not expected to tell how god got so powerful, but we can´t even be expected to tell that he is powerful, in the first place.

 

[Paisley]

umm, it could be nuclear .... actually, the Bible does not tell us this, so there is no definitive answer to this question... at this time...

 

[EverlastingMan]

Exactly my point: We would have to demonstrate our power by using means that they understand as powerful. And, getting back to your analogy, unless god demonstrates his power to us in a way that makes us discern him as more powerful ("power", as we understand it), we can not only be not expected to tell how god got so powerful, but we can´t even be expected to tell that he is powerful, in the first place.

Presuming that God exists in the first place--a priori to Him having any power--than He has very clearly demonstrated His power: He created the world. Of course I'm talking about God here, not god.

 

[loudatheist101]

umm, it could be nuclear .... actually, the Bible does not tell us this, so there is no definitive answer to this question... at this time...

Maybe because the people who wrote the Bible could not think of any believable way to make up an answer to this question.

 

[quatona]

Presuming that God exists in the first place--a priori to Him having any power--than He has very clearly demonstrated His power: He created the world. Of course I'm talking about God here, not god.

Err, yes. But once we have started presuming, we could as well continue by presuming where god got his powers from.