Where did we come from?

[carrymeaway06]

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Well, I believe in a young earth... THIS is not the issue. I got thinking yesterday and have never seen this addressed.

The Garden of Eden is supposed to have been in the fertile crescent ... ya know that place between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers?? Well, who are WE to say that?????

Afterall, Adam and Eve could have started off in the Antartica region.

I'll tell you why... Noah floated on a boat for a LONG time and he wound up in the general vicinity of the Middle East. Where did he start is the real question???

Just something interesting that I started thinking up.

 

[Floodnut]

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Well, I believe in a young earth... THIS is not the issue. I got thinking yesterday and have never seen this addressed.

The Garden of Eden is supposed to have been in the fertile crescent ... ya know that place between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers?? Well, who are WE to say that?????

Afterall, Adam and Eve could have started off in the Antartica region.

I'll tell you why... Noah floated on a boat for a LONG time and he wound up in the general vicinity of the Middle East. Where did he start is the real question???

Just something interesting that I started thinking up.

The world that was before the flood PERISHED. Everything was wiped out, churned up, turned over, and subjected to violent upheaval.
The Garden of Eden is gone, but since the "Tree of Life" is mentioned as being present in the New Heavens and the New Earth, in the New Jerusalem (Revelation 21, 22), then it seems to me that at least that tree was taken out sometime before the flood, sort of "raptured."

But Tigris and Euphrates are named in the pre-flood world (Gen 2) as rivers that flowed out of Eden. Very likely the present rivers in Iraq are so-named in MEMORY of the old rivers in the Pre-Flood world.

Noah and his sons came down from the landing place of the Ark, in the mountains of Aarat and established a homestead. Eventually most of the growing poplulation settled in the land of Mesopotamia, the land "BETWEEN THE RIVERS" --the rivers being the Tigris and the Euphrates. From there civilization experienced a rebirth, with pre-flood technology being proliferated there and enhanced. After Babel that civilization was spread to the rest of the world: to Egypt, India, the Orient, and the Americas. It has been downhill ever since.

 

[carrymeaway06]

The world that was before the flood PERISHED. Everything was wiped out, churned up, turned over, and subjected to violent upheaval.
The Garden of Eden is gone, but since the "Tree of Life" is mentioned as being present in the New Heavens and the New Earth, in the New Jerusalem (Revelation 21, 22), then it seems to me that at least that tree was taken out sometime before the flood, sort of "raptured."

But Tigris and Euphrates are named in the pre-flood world (Gen 2) as rivers that flowed out of Eden. Very likely the present rivers in Iraq are so-named in MEMORY of the old rivers in the Pre-Flood world.

Noah and his sons came down from the landing place of the Ark, in the mountains of Aarat and established a homestead. Eventually most of the growing poplulation settled in the land of Mesopotamia, the land "BETWEEN THE RIVERS" --the rivers being the Tigris and the Euphrates. From there civilization experienced a rebirth, with pre-flood technology being proliferated there and enhanced. After Babel that civilization was spread to the rest of the world: to Egypt, India, the Orient, and the Americas. It has been downhill ever since.

Yeah... I gotcha... but everyone seems to have this pre-made mindset that the Middle east would be where the Garden was. Yeah... the land changed witht he flood OBVIOUSLY,,,, but who's to say that would be the same place if geologically mapped out pre-flood and post-flood??? Just thought provoking questions. I tend to drive myself nuts with them

 

[keyarch]

Yeah... I gotcha... but everyone seems to have this pre-made mindset that the Middle east would be where the Garden was. Yeah... the land changed witht he flood OBVIOUSLY,,,, but who's to say that would be the same place if geologically mapped out pre-flood and post-flood??? Just thought provoking questions. I tend to drive myself nuts with them

Looking for the Havilah gold are ye? I'm sure its in a pre-flood valley that probably has hundreds of feet of sediment over it. There is equipment that the oil companies use to detect geologic features down deep. Someone should gather all that data for biblical research.

I can't wait until someone does a google earth type of globe of a pre-flood world with all the dirt back on the mountain tops and the sea level down 400 ft. where it was. It would be interesting to combine that with computer models for weather and see where the best places for habitation were. Then go digging!!!!! Wouldn't that throw the geological column for a loop when they find man made metal tools below the layers of shells. Your not the only one with a wondering mind.
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[carrymeaway06]

Looking for the Havilah gold are ye? I'm sure its in a pre-flood valley that probably has hundreds of feet of sediment over it. There is equipment that the oil companies use to detect geologic features down deep. Someone should gather all that data for biblical research.

I can't wait until someone does a google earth type of globe of a pre-flood world with all the dirt back on the mountain tops and the sea level down 400 ft. where it was. It would be interesting to combine that with computer models for weather and see where the best places for habitation were. Then go digging!!!!! Wouldn't that throw the geological column for a loop when they find man made metal tools below the layers of shells. Your not the only one with a wondering mind.
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Wicked. Not unlike laying on the grass looking straight up and picturing forever and eternity... Hmm...?

 

[FallingWaters]

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Well, I believe in a young earth... THIS is not the issue. I got thinking yesterday and have never seen this addressed.

The Garden of Eden is supposed to have been in the fertile crescent ... ya know that place between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers?? Well, who are WE to say that?????

Afterall, Adam and Eve could have started off in the Antartica region.

I'll tell you why... Noah floated on a boat for a LONG time and he wound up in the general vicinity of the Middle East. Where did he start is the real question???

Just something interesting that I started thinking up.

I see what you're getting at. Conceivably it could have been anywhere. The current assumption that it might have been in the Fertile Crescent is probably based on current geologic features, the fact that they landed at Ararat, and the presence of the Tigris where it is.

Who knows? It could be under water.

 

[carrymeaway06]

I see what you're getting at. Conceivably it could have been anywhere. The current assumption that it might have been in the Fertile Crescent is probably based on current geologic features, the fact that they landed at Ararat, and the presence of the Tigris where it is.

Who knows? It could be under water.

an assumption it is... they were floating around alot. AND every bit of the land changed entirely... tigris river or not, ... geological features included... the geo changed.