Where did Jesus go after he died on cross?

[Albion]

There are differing opinions on who the spirits were. But what was given is it were those who died in the flood of Noah.

not just those who died in the Flood, but all who would otherwise have gone to heaven except that they were not permitted to do so until the Savior had died on the cross and paid the penalty for the sins of mankind.

 

[Randy777]

not just those who died in the Flood, but all who would otherwise have gone to heaven except that they were not permitted to do so until the Savior had died on the cross and paid the penalty for the sins of mankind.

While that may be true I gave only what was given in the NT.

 

[Albion]

While that may be true I gave only what was given in the NT.

Very well, but the question that was asked was about the entire episode about Jesus who, after death, witnessed to souls described as being in a prison of some sort.

 

[johnjanuary1984]

He descended into hell to “make proclamation” of his victory over sin, death and hell. It was a triumphal event.

 

[Albion]

He descended into hell to “make proclamation” of his victory over sin, death and hell. It was a triumphal event.

If what you mean is the place of the damned, that would amount to gloating on Christ's part.

Rather, it refers to those who could still be saved as we see described 1 Peter 3--

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

 

[johnjanuary1984]

If what you mean is the place of the damned, that would amount to gloating on Christ's part.

Rather, it refers to those who could still be saved as we see described 1 Peter 3--

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

Does Colossians 2:15 amount to "gloating" ?

And I think Hebrews 9:27 shows that there is no 2nd chances after death.

 

[Albion]

Does Colossians 2:15 amount to "gloating" ?

You might say that, but in the one case it's prisoners he was preaching to, whereas in this one you are referring to he's pronouncing his triumph over the rulers and authorities who had fought against God. That seems like an important difference.

And I think Hebrews 9:27 shows that there is no 2nd chances after death.

Those who were held in Abraham's Bosom until Christ's work on the Cross was accomplished were not given any "second chance."

Their fate was already set except that it was necessary for Christ to complete his work before they could advance to heaven.

 

[Randy777]

Does Colossians 2:15 amount to "gloating" ?

And I think Hebrews 9:27 shows that there is no 2nd chances after death.

How do you read 1 Peter 4:6?
I agree with the light of the gospel message comes accountability to all. No change of mind but we were speaking of those who died long before Gods interaction with Moses and Israel and certainly long before the gospel message was sent into all the world. They were not guilty of violating any commandments from God as they weren't any given at that time in history. God was just in redeeming them from eternal judgment.

 

[johnjanuary1984]

How do you read 1 Peter 4:6?
I agree with the light of the gospel message comes accountability to all. No change of mind but we were speaking of those who died long before Gods interaction with Moses and Israel and certainly long before the gospel message was sent into all the world. They were not guilty of violating any commandments from God as they weren't any given at that time in history. God was just in redeeming them from eternal judgment.

I read 1 peter 4:6 probably similar to how you read Luke 9:60 and Ephesians 2:1.

The people of the past had a natural knowledge of God. They should have put their trust in God's promise (Genesis 3:15)

 

[Randy777]

I read 1 peter 4:6 probably similar to how you read Luke 9:60 and Ephesians 2:1.

The people of the past had a natural knowledge of God. They should have put their trust in God's promise (Genesis 3:15)

What promise do you speak of that those ancients were aware of?
This suggests otherwise
Jesus=>If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

Jesus=>“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. 23And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades. e For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. 24But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”

Luke 9:60 nor Ephesians 2:1 has no bearing on those who died long before Moses and the light of the gospel message. It doesn't make your case in the least.

 

[johnjanuary1984]

What promise do you speak of that those ancients were aware of?
This suggests otherwise
Jesus=>If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

Jesus=>“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. 23And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted to the heavens? No, you will go down to Hades. e For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. 24But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”

Luke 9:60 nor Ephesians 2:1 has no bearing on those who died long before Moses and the light of the gospel message. It doesn't make your case in the least.

You asked me how I read 1 peter 4:6. I was just pointing out the similar language (Calling people who are alive on earth, dead people)

The ancients were aware God exists (Romans 1:20). God gave his law to ALL people by writing it on their hearts. (natural law). And God gives every person a conscience as a voice in him which bears witness to God's law. (Romans 2:15,16)

How do you interpret Romans 2:12-15 ??

 

[Randy777]

You asked me how I read 1 peter 4:6. I was just pointing out the similar language (Calling people who are alive on earth, dead people)

The ancients were aware God exists (Romans 1:20). God gave his law to ALL people by writing it on their hearts. (natural law). And God gives every person a conscience as a voice in him which bears witness to God's law. (Romans 2:15,16)

How do you interpret Romans 2:12-15 ??

I think like Nineveh they lived in darkness and ignorance. God warned Nineveh them beforehand and given that opportunity they repented and God relented.

I think God was just in redeeming those who were under law because in His forbearance He left the sins of the nations unpunished. He was no longer willing to do so hence the wrath of God in the gospel message.

God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—

I think with light comes accountability.

“Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.

Jesus in regard to those who were under law and knew about the one true God.
If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

How can one repent and be saved apart from the knowledge of salvation given about Christ Jesus and His blood.? As in those in the days of Noah.

With the light of the gospel message Gods blessings and curses (wrath) brings "accountability to all nations. People no longer have any excuses.

I think God is a loving and just God. Who sent Christ to the Spirits in prison so that they may live in regard to the spirit.

I only know of two judgements. Eternal life and eternal condemnation. So how can the judgment be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon then those who rejected Christ if they were condemned? As Jesus implied if He had went to them they would have repented and apparently that was seen in their favor.

“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you

 

[johnjanuary1984]

I think like Nineveh they lived in darkness and ignorance. God warned Nineveh them beforehand and given that opportunity they repented and God relented.

I think God was just in redeeming those who were under law because in His forbearance He left the sins of the nations unpunished. He was no longer willing to do so hence the wrath of God in the gospel message.

God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—

I think with light comes accountability.

“Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.

Jesus in regard to those who were under law and knew about the one true God.
If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.

How can one repent and be saved apart from the knowledge of salvation given about Christ Jesus and His blood.? As in those in the days of Noah.

With the light of the gospel message Gods blessings and curses (wrath) brings "accountability to all nations. People no longer have any excuses.

I think God is a loving and just God. Who sent Christ to the Spirits in prison so that they may live in regard to the spirit.

I only know of two judgements. Eternal life and eternal condemnation. So how can the judgment be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon then those who rejected Christ if they were condemned? As Jesus implied if He had went to them they would have repented and apparently that was seen in their favor.

“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you

"Indeed, all people who have sinned without law will also perish without law....Romans 2:12.

" That servant who knew his master’s will and did not prepare or act according to what his master wanted, will be punished severely. 48 But the one who did not know, and did something worthy of punishment, will be punished lightly. From everyone to whom much was given, much will be expected. From the one who was entrusted with much, much more will be asked." Luke 12:47-48

different degrees of punishment, but punishment nonetheless

 

[Randy777]

"Indeed, all people who have sinned without law will also perish without law....Romans 2:12.

" That servant who knew his master’s will and did not prepare or act according to what his master wanted, will be punished severely. 48 But the one who did not know, and did something worthy of punishment, will be punished lightly. From everyone to whom much was given, much will be expected. From the one who was entrusted with much, much more will be asked." Luke 12:47-48

different degrees of punishment, but punishment nonetheless

Those that reject the gospel message will perish apart from law. Those that knew what Jesus preached yet rejected His message will perish as that parable was given to the audience of those who knew yet acted against Gods will. Those that believed in Jesus and obeyed His commands won't be punished. The wise who know their God.

Is is regrettable that we can't agree. I guess will agree to disagree.

 

[Davy]

Where did Jesus go after he died on cross?
Before resurrection, His spirit went to where?
What did he do?

We are... indeed told by Peter what Jesus did at His resurrection. Some reject it because of a certain doctrine of men they follow, I'm assuming.

1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
KJV

When Jesus was raised from the dead, His flesh body was "quickened by the Spirit", i.e., transfigured to the heavenly spirit body state. And by that He went to the "spirits in prison" and preached The Gospel to them, and led out those who believed from the prison house, a heavenly prison house. It was Old Testament prophecy He would do that, which see further below.


1 Peter 4:5-6
5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For, for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
KJV

That above leaves out any doubt at all that Jesus actually preached The Gospel to the dead spirits of men that had died back to the flood that had not heard The Gospel. And according to their Faith at that moment, they then lived according to God "in the spirit", meaning in their spiritual bodies where they are now with Jesus.

The following is the prophecy that Jesus would do this...

Isa 42:6-7
6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
KJV

There is a heavenly prison that exists. And it will be where Satan himself will eventually be locked in chains on the day of Christ's future return, per Revelation 20.

The conflict we most often run into of those against these Scriptures are those who wrongly believe the theory of 'soul sleep', i.e., that when we die we are literally asleep in the ground until we are resurrected on the last day. They wrongly believe the soul is part of our flesh.

So they falsely teach that the idea of 'spirits' always means demons, evil spirits, and that Jesus was only proclaiming Victory to those spirits in prison, like an 'in your face' kind of thing. No, per Matthew 10:28, and other Scripture, we are shown that our soul continues to have life after our flesh body dies. Our soul and spirit are joined and cannot be separated. But our soul with spirit can be separated from our flesh.

 

[pescador]

Regarding the OP... Jesus was placed in a tomb for three days, then was resurrected and went to heaven to be at the right hand of God, His father.

 

[Randy777]

We are... indeed told by Peter what Jesus did at His resurrection. Some reject it because of a certain doctrine of men they follow, I'm assuming.

1 Peter 3:18-20
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19 By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
KJV

When Jesus was raised from the dead, His flesh body was "quickened by the Spirit", i.e., transfigured to the heavenly spirit body state. And by that He went to the "spirits in prison" and preached The Gospel to them, and led out those who believed from the prison house, a heavenly prison house. It was Old Testament prophecy He would do that, which see further below.


1 Peter 4:5-6
5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For, for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
KJV

That above leaves out any doubt at all that Jesus actually preached The Gospel to the dead spirits of men that had died back to the flood that had not heard The Gospel. And according to their Faith at that moment, they then lived according to God "in the spirit", meaning in their spiritual bodies where they are now with Jesus.

The following is the prophecy that Jesus would do this...

Isa 42:6-7
6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
KJV

There is a heavenly prison that exists. And it will be where Satan himself will eventually be locked in chains on the day of Christ's future return, per Revelation 20.

The conflict we most often run into of those against these Scriptures are those who wrongly believe the theory of 'soul sleep', i.e., that when we die we are literally asleep in the ground until we are resurrected on the last day. They wrongly believe the soul is part of our flesh.

So they falsely teach that the idea of 'spirits' always means demons, evil spirits, and that Jesus was only proclaiming Victory to those spirits in prison, like an 'in your face' kind of thing. No, per Matthew 10:28, and other Scripture, we are shown that our soul continues to have life after our flesh body dies. Our soul and spirit are joined and cannot be separated. But our soul with spirit can be separated from our flesh.

I agree with most of what you state except my understanding is that Jesus alive in the Spirit went to preach to those spirits in prison during the 3 days prior to His bodily resurrection and that was the only thing given on His comings and goings during those 3 days.

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

A pastor said God the Father , through Holy Ghost, made a new body for Jesus, the old body just evaporated in the tomb.

 

[Randy777]

A pastor said God the Father , through Holy Ghost, made a new body for Jesus, the old body just evaporated in the tomb.

Was his name Thomas?

Now Thomas (also known as Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”

But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”

 

[pescador]

Re the OP: Jesus went to heaven to be at the right hand of His Father.