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Sorry, but I take the acts of God recorded in Genesis pretty seriously.
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Sorry, but I take the acts of God recorded in Genesis pretty seriously.Many Christians find the certainty of their salvation in their faith in Christ rather than their faith in a literal reading of Genesis.
"Yes, that is exactly what I meant." - BCP1928
Sorry, but I take the acts of God recorded in Genesis pretty seriously.
And again:
You are in no position to say that about anyone at all since you don't know the true nature of anyone on this forum.
To do so is nothing short of horrible rudeness, especially since many of the people who argue against a literalist reading of the Bible do happen to be Christians too.
As BCP1928 also points out, and I'm going to quote them varbatim here:
"Many Christians find the certainty of their salvation in their faith in Christ rather than their faith in a literal reading of Genesis."
And I hold to that belief too. There is nowhere, in any major Christian group, that states that a belief in a literal reading of Genesis should be held to the same level as faith in Christ.
level of faith for God the Father ought to be on equal footing with the level of faith for God the Son.And you're welcome to do so. Many of us do not hold to such a belief nor see a need to.
level of faith for God the Father ought to be on equal footing with the level of faith for God the Son.
If one does not, that makes him the out of norm, not the other way around.
You appear not to lnow what the words assumption, fact, orCan you please explain which of these are assumptions, and how you arrive at that conclusion.
The question - Is God the author of the Bible, can be answered in another thread, but there is evidence for this. It's not an assumption.
The others are facts.
Why not go a step further, and question as to why God chose not to write Genesis on a level of average 'scientific' understanding?And again: you're welcome to do so. But many of us do not see that the belief in a literal Genesis reading, which clashes horrible with what we see from God's creation and the history within, is necessary to be seen as a Christian or believe in Christ or God.
Why not go a step further, and question as to why God chose not to write Genesis on a level of average 'scientific' understanding?
Surely, God has His reasons which you and I cannot fathom.
That's fine, if it brings you closer to God then that's what you should do. Indeed, all Christians take them seriously, just not literally and you are not in a position to dictate that they must.Sorry, but I take the acts of God recorded in Genesis pretty seriously.
according to whom...??a world that shows an entirely different thing
according to whom...??
this is playing fast and loose with definitions. Are you pitting 'literalism' against 'scientific viewpoint'? That only further muddies the waters.That's fine, if it brings you closer to God then that's what you should do. Indeed, all Christians take them seriously, just not literally and you are not in a position to dictate that they must.
And it is also fallible humans who are reading it, even if it is divinely inspired.Since I believe that God would not willingly deceive us by having written a book that says one thing, then creating a world that shows an entirely different thing, and thus also means that fallible humans wrote the Bible and not good... I don't need to go a step further or even take such a step.
"Perhaps you could clarify what it is you’re asking as the question makes no sense to me as it stands. I can’t answer a question I don’t understand." - DaisyDayYou're not being clever, you know.
being 'fallible' is not a get-out-of-jail-free card.And it is also fallible humans who are reading it, even if it is divinely inspired.
"Perhaps you could clarify what it is you’re asking as the question makes no sense to me as it stands. I can’t answer a question I don’t understand." - DaisyDay
And it is also fallible humans who are reading it, even if it is divinely inspired.
Nonsense. It is not necessary to use a 'scientific viewpoint' to entertain a non-literal understanding of Genesis.this is playing fast and loose with definitions. Are you pitting 'literalism' against 'scientific viewpoint'? That only further muddies the waters.
I am interested in hearing the viewpoint which you use.Nonsense. It is not necessary to use a 'scientific viewpoint' to entertain a non-literal understanding of Genesis.
If God there is, I am ready to doubt that adopting and spreadingThat's fine, if it brings you closer to God then that's what you should do. Indeed, all Christians take them seriously, just not literally and you are not in a position to dictate that they must.
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