When Will Christ Return?

zeke37 · Oct 27, 2011

His return is post trib, and the church is here for the entire tribulation.
the tribulation is not the wrath of God.
the tribulation is not just for the Jews at all.
the tribulation is a test to see who will stay a faithfull virgin for the wedding to Jesus, and who will become a seduced harlot.
Christians are mentioned as being against the beast as candlesticks in Rev11,
Satan goes after Christians in Rev12
and the mouth of the beast overcomes Chrsitians in Rev13.

who do you think is worshiping the false Christ in Rev13?

virgilio · Oct 28, 2011

Hi All,

who do you think is worshiping the the false Christ in Rev 13?

Rev 13:8 and all that dwell on the earth shall do it homage, [every one] whose name had not been written from [the] founding of [the] world in the book of life of the slain Lamb.

Those who have no seal with his and his Father's name.Rev 22:4

John 8:19 They said to him therefore, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye know neither me nor my Father. If ye had known me, ye would have known also my Father.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

Almighty's humble servant · Oct 28, 2011

trumpeter said:
I think the latter part of 2017 is when Christ returns to set up his Millennial kingdom.

With the Messiahs return near the end of 2017 our Savior should return in the summer months of 2014.

?.....Are Jesus, Savior, and Messiah ONE?

And fyi.....2017 is the year most NWO leaders are proposing for global impantation of the microchip.

Almighty's humble servant · Oct 28, 2011

virgilio said:
Hi All,

Rev 13:8 and all that dwell on the earth shall do it homage, [every one] whose name had not been written from [the] founding of [the] world in the book of life of the slain Lamb.

Those who have no seal with his and his Father's name.Rev 22:4

John 8:19 They said to him therefore, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye know neither me nor my Father. If ye had known me, ye would have known also my Father.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

The decieved.........chirstians, Muslims, Jews, hindus, buhdists, scientologists, mormons, and about every other faith group awaiting the return/coming of a savior.

That's why it's so very important to remind people that God's Kingdom does not need electricity and will not have an employment rate. There'll be no need for buildings, bridges, vehicles, etc etc etc. All of these, the a/c will need in order to fashion a technological eden. One in which we all are god, except he and his enlightened masters are our kings.

trumpeter · Oct 28, 2011

Almighty's humble servant said:
?.....Are Jesus, Savior, and Messiah ONE?

They are the same person in Jesus, to those in in the church he is Savior and author of our salvation, to Israel he is their Messiah who will save them from their enemies and restore Israel when he returns. Jesus is not a Messiah to the church, Paul the expert on the church never addresses Jesus in that manner.

And fyi.....2017 is the year most NWO leaders are proposing for global impantation of the microchip.

Interesting, do you have any info to back that up? The microchip is old technology and is embeded underneath the skin, the mark has to be a visible mark on the surface of skin. I believe the mark is a computer tattoo, it will function in the same manner as the microchip but instead be on the surface of the skin. Thanks for your reply.

virgilio · Oct 28, 2011

Hello Almighty's humble servant, greetings
Your question under is very important that every Christ believer must must know and understood.

?.....Are Jesus, Savior, and Messiah ONE?

Jesus said in John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what; we worship what we know, for salvation is of the Jews.

v.23 But [the] hour is coming and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth; for also the Father seeks such as his worshipers.

v.24 God [is] a spirit; and they who worship him must worship [him] in spirit and truth.

v.25 The woman says to him, I know that Messiah is coming, who is called Christ; when *he* comes he will tell us all things.

v.26 Jesus says to her, I who speak to thee am [he].

Jesus while preaching to his apostle gave the proper ways how to understand his doctrine and we must also use this guideline to enable us to understand his words. e.g., John 6:62 If then ye see the Son of man ascending up where he was before?

Scripture manifested that Jesus (flesh) was conceived in the womb of Mary and he didn't came from heaven. It was the WORD which was in the beginning was with God and the WORD was God. John 1:1-2

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we have contemplated his glory, a glory as of an only-begotten with a father), full of grace and truth;

John 6:63 It is the Spirit which quickens, the flesh profits nothing: the words which I have spoken unto you are spirit and are life.

Jesus death proved that he was a man and he was resurrected through the
glory of the Father whom dwelleth in him Romans 6:4 We have been buried therefore with him by baptism unto death, in order that, even as Christ has been raised up from among [the] dead by the glory of the Father, so *we* also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that has raised up Jesus from among [the] dead dwell in you, he that has raised up Christ from among [the] dead shall quicken your mortal bodies also on account of his Spirit which dwells in you.

I'll stop here and continue farther if there will be other who may seek the truth.

So to answer your question; Christ is the Messiah the Son of the living God.
the Spirit that dwelleth in body of Jesus and to all of us.

Matthew 16:14-16 And they said, Some, John the baptist; and others, Elias; and others again, Jeremias or one of the prophets.

v.15 He says to them, But *ye*, who do ye say that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answering said, *Thou* art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Do ye not know that ye are [the] temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

zeke37 · Oct 28, 2011

virgilio said:
Hi All,

Rev 13:8 and all that dwell on the earth shall do it homage, [every one] whose name had not been written from [the] founding of [the] world in the book of life of the slain Lamb.

Those who have no seal with his and his Father's name.Rev 22:4

John 8:19 They said to him therefore, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye know neither me nor my Father. If ye had known me, ye would have known also my Father.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

virgilio · Oct 28, 2011

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[FONT=&quot]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:[/FONT]

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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]John 14:16 [/FONT] Jesus says to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father unless by me.
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[FONT=&quot]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. [/FONT]

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[/FONT]John 10:9 I am the door: if any one enter in by me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and shall go out and shall find pasture.
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15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing

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[/FONT]John 10:10 The thief comes not but that he may steal, and kill, and destroy: I am come that they might have life, and might have [it] abundantly.

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[FONT=&quot]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Galatians 5:[/FONT]19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness,

v.20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strifes, jealousies, angers, contentions, disputes, schools of opinion,

v.21 envyings, murders, drunkennesses, revels, and things like these; as to which I tell you beforehand, even as I also have said before, that they who do such things shall not inherit God's kingdom.

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[/FONT]v.22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, fidelity,

v.23 meekness, self-control: against such things there is no law.

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[FONT=&quot]; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [/FONT]

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[/FONT]Matthew 12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in [the] heavens, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.

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[/FONT]Isaiah 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and Jehovah will answer; thou shalt cry, and he will say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger and the unjust speech,

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Proverbs 9:1-2 Wisdom hath built her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars;

v.2 she hath slaughtered her cattle, she hath mingled her wine, she hath also prepared her table;

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Romans 10:13 For every one whosoever, who shall call on the name of the Lord, shall be saved.

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maat · Oct 30, 2011

It is clear that the world is moving towards a world government. The US is doing everything in its power to collapse its economy and freedoms. The world is putting bandaids on gaping wounds with little to no serious attempt to avoid future unsustainable promises.

IMO, a world currency will preempt, a soon after, world government. Americans are not fighting to maintain sovereignty over their government god entitlements.

True Godly americans would accept the failure of government promises and not destroy future americans freedoms and prosperity.

The battle for freedom without morality is being lost by a paid off church through tax exemption.

It does not take a rocket scientist to know that the gas has been poured and the match has been lit. International banking, corporations and global economics has paved the way for a global currency and govenor. You do not have to have a global name to have a global system. All it takes is a treaty.

I place the end between 2020-2030. I would not be surprised if it comes sooner.

gracechick · Oct 30, 2011

trumpeter said:
They are the same person in Jesus, to those in in the church he is Savior and author of our salvation, to Israel he is their Messiah who will save them from their enemies and restore Israel when he returns. Jesus is not a Messiah to the church, Paul the expert on the church never addresses Jesus in that manner.

Interesting, do you have any info to back that up? The microchip is old technology and is embeded underneath the skin, the mark has to be a visible mark on the surface of skin. I believe the mark is a computer tattoo, it will function in the same manner as the microchip but instead be on the surface of the skin. Thanks for your reply.

And it technically the mark could not be comprised of both? For some reason the tattooing of the Jews during the war comes to mind right now so maybe I should do some research there if I can find the time.

virgilio · Oct 30, 2011

maat said:
It is clear that the world is moving towards a world government. The US is doing everything in its power to collapse its economy and freedoms. The world is putting bandaids on gaping wounds with little to no serious attempt to avoid future unsustainable promises.

IMO, a world currency will preempt, a soon after, world government. Americans are not fighting to maintain sovereignty over their government god entitlements.

True Godly americans would accept the failure of government promises and not destroy future americans freedoms and prosperity.

The battle for freedom without morality is being lost by a paid off church through tax exemption.

It does not take a rocket scientist to know that the gas has been poured and the match has been lit. International banking, corporations and global economics has paved the way for a global currency and govenor. You do not have to have a global name to have a global system. All it takes is a treaty.

I place the end between 2020-2030. I would not be surprised if it comes sooner.

Hello maat,
It is your right to think and presume to your mind every wild imagination you like and no one can take it away from you. But in regard to the global economic problem it is only a natural for a world too much over populated to experience crisis such as poverty, lack of foods, under employment etc.

The union of government is reacting to find solution to solve this problem, and we have done nothing to contribute to help but to criticize and relate what ever action they made as a deed of antichrist.

About the prophesy of endtimes Acts 1:7 And he said to them, It is not yours to know times or seasons, which the Father has placed in his own authority;

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

Almighty's humble servant · Oct 30, 2011

trumpeter said:
They are the same person in Jesus, to those in in the church he is Savior and author of our salvation, to Israel he is their Messiah who will save them from their enemies and restore Israel when he returns. Jesus is not a Messiah to the church, Paul the expert on the church never addresses Jesus in that manner.

Interesting, do you have any info to back that up? The microchip is old technology and is embeded underneath the skin, the mark has to be a visible mark on the surface of skin. I believe the mark is a computer tattoo, it will function in the same manner as the microchip but instead be on the surface of the skin. Thanks for your reply.

Blessings brother,

I asked simply b/c you referred to the second coming of Jesus in two different parts....2013 and 2017.
As for info regarding the coming of the world implantation in 2017 is simply defer to the globalist Henry Kissinger who has long since worked behind the scenes of both the L and the R, in and out the USA since the early 60s.

Of course several scenarios must play themselves out for such to occur, so I, as should we all, defer to the ALmighty's authority.

The world elite can dream until they are blue in the face, but until the ALmighty allows it, it won't happen, and we know which seals precede it.

Many, many others have followed Kissingers idea of 2017 being an ideal time for micorchipping the world populous, but IMO, most are simply referring to his timetable, rather than formulating their own opinion based on the global posturing we see today.

As for M/O/B being the microchip, please read my blog entry entitled "Our future...." it is the ONLY reason I feel as I do. And while I have remained mostly silent on many of the stances given in the blog, I maintain their authenticity even now, having been wrong on a few occasions as to their actual meanings. Again...I defer to the ALmighty and His Holy Scripture for the TRUTH....but the microchip as a means of identity and monetary would certainly fulfil the revelation of John irt it.

maat · Oct 30, 2011

virgilio said:
virgilio said:

Hello maat,
It is your right to think and presume to your mind every wild imagination you like and no one can take it away to you. But in regard to the global economic problem it is only a natural for a world too much over populated to experience crisis such as poverty, lack of foods, under employment etc.

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Free markets and freewill would do a much better job of curbing unnatural population. You can thank intrusive government for our current over-build of housing and failing economy.

You can thank the government for massive student loan debt and not enough professional jobs to accommodate them.

You can thank the government for over-sized homes and waste of natural resources.

You can thank the government for wealth disparity and lack of societal good personal finance skills between the rich and poor due to SS/medicare and welfare programs.

It is far better that individuals make decisions based on self-reliance motivation and limit unnatural markets due to free market forces as apposed to government programs that distort markets and personal motivations.

The union of government is reacting to find solution to solve this problem, and we have done nothing to contribute to help but to criticize and relate what ever action they made as a deed of antichrist.

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The Antichrist cannot run a divided world. The last hope for this divide is the US. Once we loose our sovereignty, it is over. Due to big government manipulations, we are headed towards global control.

About the prophesy of endtimes Acts 1:7 And he said to them, It is not yours to know times or seasons, which the Father has placed in his own authority;

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Read Mathew 24:32-42, it says differently.

virgilio · Oct 30, 2011

Read Mathew 24:32-42, it says differently.

Hello maat,
I respect whatever your intake on passage you gave but I don't buy it.
I choose 1 verse and to give other meaning to other verse related to upcoming tribulation is mere speculation.
v.36 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of the heavens, but [my] Father alone.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

Old Seer · Nov 3, 2011

He's not coming---as a person of a material or physical nature. Remember, he is "the word". It/he is coming as knowledge/enlightenment. It may be OK to pick a year, but, the question is-when will the enlightenment come to one's own person. The working components of JC are not physical, but spiritual. There-fore then---he/it will arrive by word to impart knowledge or enlightenment. Within the next 20 years this enlightenment will spread from place to place by person to person. Anyone believing, doing and spreading that word is----him. The tendency is to see his life and world from a perspective of this worlds minds eye. He is no such thing, there-fore, he is misinterpreted to fit the thinking of present mental conditions.

virgilio · Nov 3, 2011

Old Seer said:
He's not coming---as a person of a material or physical nature. Remember, he is "the word". It/he is coming as knowledge/enlightenment.

Hello Old Seer greetings,
Yes, he's not coming physically because one must know 1 Corinthians 13:5
"Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you? -- unless indeed you are disqualified"

It may be OK to pick a year, but, the question is-when will the enlightenment come to one's own person. The working components of JC are not physical, but spiritual.

Colossians 1:26 the mystery which [has been] hidden from ages and from generations, but has now been made manifest to his saints;

v.27 to whom God would make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the nations, which is Christ in you the hope of glory

There-fore then---he/it will arrive by word to impart knowledge or enlightenment. Within the next 20 years this enlightenment will spread from place to place by person to person. Anyone believing, doing and spreading that word is----him.

The tendency is to see his life and world from a perspective of this worlds minds eye. He is no such thing, there-fore, he is misinterpreted to fit the thinking of present mental conditions.

13 which also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, communicating spiritual [things] by spiritual [means].

John 8:32 seek the truth, the truth shall set you free from false teaching.
1 Corinthians 2:14-16 But [the] natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him; and he cannot know [them] because they are spiritually discerned;

v.15 but the spiritual discerns all things, and *he* is discerned of no one.

v.16 For who has known the mind of [the] Lord, who shall instruct him? But *we* have the mind of Christ.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ,
virgilio

Old Seer · Nov 3, 2011

demanded by the people. On this account----Civilization was created by man which is opposit that of one being made by the creator. Under civilization one is created by "the state" to be what the state wishes one to be. That is why children go to school, to be created from a "neutral" into a product of the state. At the time one is created their person contains two entities, the human entity and the animal entity. Civilization (the state) exists on animal entity, and therefore creates it's people into what purposes the state dictates, mainly, a commercial entity. The animal mentality is where Adam came from (dust of the ground-soul) and transformed through enlightenment (of the creator)into human, man. The child can be raised by those who are enlightened and become human through teaching. (bear in mind-the child is born a neutral, and contains both human and animal mentality (traits). It is the spiritual that is the person, not the body. Civilized entities are guided into being body/material/the superficial worshipers which is the basis of civilization ---and it's problem source. The "human" side is that which is Christianity and the same entity that was/is Adam. All peoples contain the same spiritual makeup, (the equality by the creator) and there-fore all contain Christianity, be they whatever religion or nationality. It is only a matter of understanding. Europeans aren't genetically related to Adam as Adam is stricly of middle eastern genetics. But Europeans are no spiritually different then middle easterners and are of the same spiritual makeup. Civilization for the middle easterners was (according to the bible) developed by Nimrod. It is Nimrod that is the culprit-who changed from man back to animal as a way of life. He was a mighty hunter (pretator) before the people. Predation in this case refere to business and money, but more over the breech against the creator is that Nimrod created a system of greaters and lessers which is against the creators will in the creation of man that all are created equal. It is civilized authorities that killed JC and the apostles, not the people. Civilization and those that operate it are the enemies of the Creator, not the people. This invention of Nimrod (civilization) (for the Israelite line) is Babylon the Great, because Nimrod is also the founder of the Babylon State that creates civilization for the middle easterners. Civilization is also "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" where-in the operators through the making of laws decide for the people what is to be good and what is to be bad. Another problem is that the bible cannot be interpreted in a European state of mind as the ancients in the middle east saw/see and interpret things a bit different. The bible cannot be read effectivly from a European perspective, the thinking process is different.

Almighty's humble servant · Nov 3, 2011

Old Seer said:
demanded by the people. On this account----Civilization was created by man which is opposit that of one being made by the creator. Under civilization one is created by "the state" to be what the state wishes one to be. That is why children go to school, to be created from a "neutral" into a product of the state. At the time one is created their person contains two entities, the human entity and the animal entity. Civilization (the state) exists on animal entity, and therefore creates it's people into what purposes the state dictates, mainly, a commercial entity. The animal mentality is where Adam came from (dust of the ground-soul) and transformed through enlightenment (of the creator)into human, man. The child can be raised by those who are enlightened and become human through teaching. (bear in mind-the child is born a neutral, and contains both human and animal mentality (traits). It is the spiritual that is the person, not the body. Civilized entities are guided into being body/material/the superficial worshipers which is the basis of civilization ---and it's problem source. The "human" side is that which is Christianity and the same entity that was/is Adam. All peoples contain the same spiritual makeup, (the equality by the creator) and there-fore all contain Christianity, be they whatever religion or nationality. It is only a matter of understanding. Europeans aren't genetically related to Adam as Adam is stricly of middle eastern genetics. But Europeans are no spiritually different then middle easterners and are of the same spiritual makeup. Civilization for the middle easterners was (according to the bible) developed by Nimrod. It is Nimrod that is the culprit-who changed from man back to animal as a way of life. He was a mighty hunter (pretator) before the people. Predation in this case refere to business and money, but more over the breech against the creator is that Nimrod created a system of greaters and lessers which is against the creators will in the creation of man that all are created equal. It is civilized authorities that killed JC and the apostles, not the people. Civilization and those that operate it are the enemies of the Creator, not the people. This invention of Nimrod (civilization) (for the Israelite line) is Babylon the Great, because Nimrod is also the founder of the Babylon State that creates civilization for the middle easterners. Civilization is also "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" where-in the operators through the making of laws decide for the people what is to be good and what is to be bad. Another problem is that the bible cannot be interpreted in a European state of mind as the ancients in the middle east saw/see and interpret things a bit different. The bible cannot be read effectivly from a European perspective, the thinking process is different.

Jesus came in the FLESH once to remove filth from the unclean. He will come again, onto the PHYSICAL plane to remove the cleansed from within the filth.
While your post is beautiful irt how science and sociology has degraded our souls, I still call GNOSTICISM.

virgilio · Nov 4, 2011

Hello Old Seer,

The "human" side is that which is Christianity and the same entity that was/is Adam. All peoples contain the same spiritual makeup, (the equality by the creator) and there-fore all contain Christianity, be they whatever religion or nationality. It is only a matter of understanding. Europeans aren't genetically related to Adam as Adam is stricly of middle eastern genetics. But Europeans are no spiritually different then middle easterners and are of the same spiritual makeup.

I'm a little bit confused by your words which I look to be possible of racial discrimination. Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? Hath not one ùGod created us? Why do we deal unfaithfully every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

What is your motivation that the Europeans aren't genetically related to Adam? Are they not also made from "dust"? What is the difference of middle eastern genetics to Europeans genetic?

Another problem is that the bible cannot be interpreted in a European state of mind as the ancients in the middle east saw/see and interpret things a bit different. The bible cannot be read effectivly from a European perspective, the thinking process is different.

May you please clarify if what is your belief, are you a Deist, a Theist or of a Reformed Enlightment theology.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother virgilio

Achilles6129 · Nov 4, 2011

Trying to swing things back to topic - the return of Christ will not occur until we have a world government being run by 10 nations/kings, along with the antichrist (who evidently nearly everyone won't recognize as being the antichrist).

This is made clear by the book of Revelation and the book of Daniel. Until then, everything is just a precursor.

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