When suicide is OK

[ej]

Not bringing God or Jesus into the situation, suicide is merly a person taking their own life because they want to.

You really believe this? I think that (not bringing God or Jesus into the situation) most people who commit suicide do it because they believe they have no other option.

Who is a doctor to say that a person does not have a good reason to die?

A doctor is a person with extensive knowledge about conditions, their symptoms, possible treatments, and prognosis. True, they do not know the patient's thoughts, but they certainly know how to treat the sick.

It SHOULD BE up to the person, because it is their life, and if their parents dont want to let go of him, well then they shouldent have given birth to him. Giving birth, is merly bestoeing a death warrent to the birthee (person who is born)

This is so sad - it assumes that the person commiting suicide has no concept of the world around him/her. Non-spiritual people still possess a deep sense of morality (on the whole) and I'm sure that they would consider more people than themself in such a situation.

 

[heavenlyrain]

Suicide is NEVER ok. That's what God is here for. To give us a LIVING hope. He is the author of peace and healing. And the Bible verse "Thou shall not kill" still applies in this case. Murder is murder reguardless it be someone eles, or yourself.

 

[Havoc]

It's nice that things are so cut and dry in your world. The rest of us have to live in the real world.

I lost my Beloved three years ago. She was diagnosed with a terminal illness, no hope for a control or cure. She chose to die when she was still strong and beautiful rather than waste away to a shell. I would have lost her either way but at least I can remember her as a strong, healthy woman who chose her time to pass on to the next life. In the conversations I have had with her since I have come to understand that this was right for her.

A religion that condemns her for making that choice in those circumstances is certainly not a religion I would want to be a part of.

 

[ej]

So again, we come to the crossroads which is euthanasia. Should we:

1 - Allow nature to take its course?
2 - Battle against nature/God?
3 - Assume we know better than nature?

In people with terminal illnesses which are painful to themself, as well as their friends and family, I strongly believe that both (2) and (3) are a potential disaster.

(2) because this can prolong pain, or even worsen it.
(3) because humans do not know better than nature/God. Pre-emptively ending a life because you can't deal with reality? I can't accept tht, as hard as I try.

Allowing nature to take its course, howver, does not have to be painful. It means that supportive treatment can be given to alleviate symptoms but not prolong life, and the person can slip away at the time God / nature intended.

 

[Pastor_Benjamin]

Suicide is never ok in the eyes of the Lord.

 

[wonderboy92577]

Suicide is never ok in the eyes of the Lord.

And how, I ask you, would you know? Did God send you a letter? Give ya a phone call?

By saying it's never ok, the message you are sending is that it's sinful. Honestly, you don't have any real concrete evidence that God Himself considers suicide a sin. If you do, please provide it -- the kind of concrete evidence that could be submitted for a murder trial. No hearsay, nothing interpretive, nothing biased.

There isn't any such evidence to my knowledge. And I don't care about psychology, animals in nature, other religions, or bizarre interpretations of Scripture. I'm talking about common sense, plain to the eyes evidence that God considers suicide wrong/sinful. (Two words I think should be synonymous, by the way.)

I don't think it's something people should opt for, of course, but having just lost my brother this last June (my baby brother), I challenge anyone to provide me with concrete black-and-white evidence that God considers it wrong. I think if someone is in so much pain they would rather not be here and they've chosen to end their life, it is their perogative. If it weren't intended, it would not happen.

I think it is God who judges, and I imagine that He does so on a case-by-case instance: intelligently, compassionately, logically, just as we (who were made in His image) would. He decides what is wrong, not us. We don't know in this life what is wrong for sure, excepting the very clearly defined sinful acts in the Bible.

 

[Dyrwen]

I like the way you think wonderboy.

An odd concept to look upon: Technically, Jesus committed suicide as a man since he knew he had to die for everyone's sins yet did nothing to stop it from happening. He could've run away and saved himself, but since he stayed, he committed suicide.

I'm pretty sure God judged that one on a "case-by-case" basis, dontchathink? heh.. *awaits the Jesus is God replies*

 

[AdJesumPerMariam]

A doctor is a person with extensive knowledge about conditions, their symptoms, possible treatments, and prognosis. True, they do not know the patient's thoughts, but they certainly know how to treat the Sick.

Have you ever heard of the PACTICE of medicine? Doctors do not know everything. All they can do is treat & give hope. A doctor should never say there is no hope.

Love-n-Blessings
dee

 

[SolomonVII]

Mental illness can delude people into believing that suicide is necessary. Without condemnation of the mentally ill, the idea that a life is not worth living ought to be regarded as delusional thinking. Anybody that has battled with depression will undoubtedly have empathy for someone that has taken their life, but it quite another thing to justify suicide as a legitimate choice.

 

[Christian24]

Suicide may make ur problems go away but what about ur loved ones ?

 

[Christian24]

I think that suicide is a cowardice act to escape ur problems 2!