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When Should We End The Sale of Gas Vehicles, and coal power plants?
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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 75708363" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>Making the switch to all electric vehicles is a good idea...however, that needs to be balanced with feasibility in terms of the timeline.</p><p></p><p>Comparing the US to Britain or Norway would be shortsighted (like with other aspects of society where people insist on making country-to-country comparisons)</p><p></p><p>First off, simple landmass alone give the Brits a huge advantage to being able to cut over to electric.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]294115[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]294116[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>The further government vehicles need to travel in order to provide the service they're looking to provide, the less the current iteration of electric vehicles are suited for the job.</p><p></p><p>That's not to say the vehicles won't improve, they certainly will, like with other things...but to make much smaller countries' timelines the "measuring stick" for when we should be fully switched over is going to paint us into a corner.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The other aspect of this is that fossil fuel vehicles and heating are only 2 aspects of what's driving climate change...and the US is just one player among many. Unless there's a way to force compliance among China, India, and Russia...we could cut all CO2 emissions, and would just be a drop in the bucket.</p><p></p><p>Unless people are willing to make some major changes to other aspects of their life (IE: their diets), cutting fossil fuels is just a small part of the problem.</p><p></p><p>Animal agriculture (specifically beef and pork) is the #2 contributor to emissions, and the #1 causes of deforestation, wasteful land usage, and both water usage as well as water contamination.</p><p></p><p>In a nutshell, unless people are (in addition to buying an expensive electric vehicle installing solar panels and paying additional taxes to install wind turbines) willing to put international pressure on multiple nations and radically change their diets to mostly plant based, a Tesla in the driveway and some solar panels in the backyard is little more than a virtue signal that people with money can do to act like they "care", while not actually having to make any real sacrifices.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 75708363, member: 123415"] Making the switch to all electric vehicles is a good idea...however, that needs to be balanced with feasibility in terms of the timeline. Comparing the US to Britain or Norway would be shortsighted (like with other aspects of society where people insist on making country-to-country comparisons) First off, simple landmass alone give the Brits a huge advantage to being able to cut over to electric. [ATTACH=full]294115[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]294116[/ATTACH] The further government vehicles need to travel in order to provide the service they're looking to provide, the less the current iteration of electric vehicles are suited for the job. That's not to say the vehicles won't improve, they certainly will, like with other things...but to make much smaller countries' timelines the "measuring stick" for when we should be fully switched over is going to paint us into a corner. The other aspect of this is that fossil fuel vehicles and heating are only 2 aspects of what's driving climate change...and the US is just one player among many. Unless there's a way to force compliance among China, India, and Russia...we could cut all CO2 emissions, and would just be a drop in the bucket. Unless people are willing to make some major changes to other aspects of their life (IE: their diets), cutting fossil fuels is just a small part of the problem. Animal agriculture (specifically beef and pork) is the #2 contributor to emissions, and the #1 causes of deforestation, wasteful land usage, and both water usage as well as water contamination. In a nutshell, unless people are (in addition to buying an expensive electric vehicle installing solar panels and paying additional taxes to install wind turbines) willing to put international pressure on multiple nations and radically change their diets to mostly plant based, a Tesla in the driveway and some solar panels in the backyard is little more than a virtue signal that people with money can do to act like they "care", while not actually having to make any real sacrifices. [/QUOTE]
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