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This is the letter of the Law, Jason.
This is not the Pharisees tradition Jason...THIS IS THE LAW.No. It is called your lack of not understanding the difference between God's law at the time and the Pharisees traditions.
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Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers.
You said:Jesus told him to take up his bed on the Sabbath. The Sabbath was broken, Yet Christ did not sin. This was all done out of Love, compassion and mercy.
This is not the Pharisees tradition Jason...THIS IS THE LAW.
Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers.
So I take it you are under that Law and not graceYep, you are not getting it.
That's okay.
You can justify the idea of breaking God's laws if that makes you feel better.
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So, Jesus told someone to sin by taking up a burden?You don't understand Jeremiah 17:22 and what Jesus did.
Did Jesus take up a load or burden out of somebody's home?
No.
Did Jesus do regular manual routine labor on the Sabbath?
No.
Jesus said it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath like pulling up a neighbor's donkey out of a ditch, etc.
The Sabbath was for ROUTINE normal every day laborous work!
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Lying to save someones life is not breaking God's Law. I am Loving my neighbor as I love myself. All of God's Law rest under two commandments. Love God, Love thy neighbor.Yep, you are not getting it.
That's okay.
You can justify the idea of breaking God's laws if that makes you feel better.
Just please know that such thinking will not work out all to well for you in the end, my friend.
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So I take it you are under that Law and not grace
Lying to save someones life is not breaking God's Law. I am Loving my neighbor as I love myself. All of God's Law rest under two commandments. Love God, Love thy neighbor.
So, Jesus told someone to sin by taking up a burden?
You are missing one word Jason....LOVE.Replace the word "lie" for another evil (when you say that).
Put in the word "rape" or "murder" or "drunkenness."
In other words, the ends do not justify the means.
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Did Jesus take up a load or burden out of somebody's home?
No.
Did Jesus do regular manual routine labor on the Sabbath?
No.
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Follow along Jason, you said it.Where in Scripture does it say that?
No doubt you are misunderstanding what the text is saying again.
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You are missing one word Jason....LOVE.
Jesus did indeed tell the man to take up his bed on the Sabbath.
Follow along Jason, you said it.
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.Love.
Loving your neighbor results in obeying the moral law according to Romans 13:8-10.
Jesus says if you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love (1 John 4:8).
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And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
So, picking up manna off of the ground is labor intensive, but to carry a bed is not?In John 5:8, Jesus command to the man to take up his mat to walk was not a command to work. Walking and carrying things for non labor reasons is not a break of the Sabbath.
You really do not understand the commands of the Sabbath in the Old Testament.
Please show me in the OT where carrying something for non-laborous reasons is considered breaking the Sabbath.
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