When is it a sin?

[step_by_step]

In today's world, there's "big sins" and "little sins". Homosexuality, fornication, murder, etc. are the "big ones". These are the sins that we focus on most, the ones that make us cover our mouths and look away in horror.

But what about the other sins that no one talks about? Little white lies, acting out in anger, hating someone (which is the same as murder!), disobeying our parents, pride, laziness...all these things are listed in the Bible as wrong. Yet we don't talk about them. Even adultery can get glossed over!

So when is it a sin? Why do we decide that some sins are more important than others and when does a sin become important? Why do we excuse hatred but stamp out homosexuality?

 

[Seadish]

A sin is a sin this world is getting nuts it past crazy

 

[timothyu]

So when is it a sin?

First of all there is only one sin, the original sin, into which all of man's concepts of sin are a result of. Original sin covers it all. Man put our will before the will of God. The result was a self serving being, self justifying every deed, seeking gain at the expense of others. Human being v:1:1

When is it a sin? Whenever we put our will before the will of God.

So confident in those personal traits man is, that man even goes so far as to not only define all sorts of sins but redefine them also by redefining the definition of good and evil to suit the deed or themselves.
Yes God gave a few examples of individual sins but God has always tried to give us the information we need to present man's will in contrast to His. Few choose His.

 

[HTacianas]

In today's world, there's "big sins" and "little sins". Homosexuality, fornication, murder, etc. are the "big ones". These are the sins that we focus on most, the ones that make us cover our mouths and look away in horror.

But what about the other sins that no one talks about? Little white lies, acting out in anger, hating someone (which is the same as murder!), disobeying our parents, pride, laziness...all these things are listed in the Bible as wrong. Yet we don't talk about them. Even adultery can get glossed over!

So when is it a sin? Why do we decide that some sins are more important than others and when does a sin become important? Why do we excuse hatred but stamp out homosexuality?

While I agree with you in principle, there are both serious and minor sins. It's perhaps most clearly explained by the Roman Church's teaching on mortal and venial sin.

That aside, there are very few groups that advocate hate for the sake of hate, and those who do are easily dismissed.

Yet there are others who advocate immorality -homosexuality, wanton sexual immorality, abortion- whose sins should be private but their advocacy makes them public.

When sin is made public and openly encouraged, it is right to oppose it. If the details of those sins were discussed here even in the most clinical language the post would likely be deleted and you would likely be banned for profanity. That is how serious some sins are.

 

[timothyu]

One could say the degree of seriousness would be the degree to which the act is adversarial to loving neighbour as self (which is God's will.) Murder on the scale for instance, would really go against loving neighbour as self and rate high.

 

[Just_a_Christian]

While I agree with you in principle, there are both serious and minor sins. It's perhaps most clearly explained by the Roman Church's teaching on mortal and venial sin.

That aside, there are very few groups that advocate hate for the sake of hate, and those who do are easily dismissed.

Yet there are others who advocate immorality -homosexuality, wanton sexual immorality, abortion- whose sins should be private but their advocacy makes them public.

When sin is made public and openly encouraged, it is right to oppose it. If the details of those sins were discussed here even in the most clinical language the post would likely be deleted and you would likely be banned for profanity. That is how serious some sins are.

This is my opinion and I don't know that I could find scripture to back me up or not, having said that, to me sin is "puplic" anytime anyone other than yourself and God know of it. I believe part of the reason we've gotten to the point that we have in this country is we stopped speaking up in defense of God. Our silence on the issues has put us behind the eight ball, if you will. I believe that we are somewhat guilty by association for not standing up for righteousness. Our silence being witness against us. Now, here we are, what would happen if we conducted a rally against homosexuality today? A few years ago I worked with a man who was pretty brazen in his homosexuality, well he was brazen when he thought he could indulge and no one expose him. On Sunday morning he was in the pulpit. I had to quite my job because he wouldn't stop his advances on me....I told the boss, HR and said it was either him or me. I fear for my children and grandchildren!!!

 

[sunshineforJesus]

I believe all sin no matter how small is sin in the eyes of God and must be confessed.

 

[SkyWriting]

While I agree with you in principle, there are both serious and minor sins. It's perhaps most clearly explained by the Roman Church's teaching on mortal and venial sin.

There seems to be just one level.

John 8:34
Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin.
James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.

 

[SkyWriting]

I believe all sin no matter how small is sin in the eyes of God and must be confessed.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.

 

[SkyWriting]

This is my opinion and I don't know that I could find scripture to back me up or not, having said that, to me sin is "puplic" anytime anyone other than yourself and God know of it. I believe part of the reason we've gotten to the point that we have in this country is we stopped speaking up in defense of God. Our silence on the issues has put us behind the eight ball, if you will. I believe that we are somewhat guilty by association for not standing up for righteousness. Our silence being witness against us. Now, here we are, what would happen if we conducted a rally against homosexuality today? A few years ago I worked with a man who was pretty brazen in his homosexuality, well he was brazen when he thought he could indulge and no one expose him. On Sunday morning he was in the pulpit. I had to quite my job because he wouldn't stop his advances on me....I told the boss, HR and said it was either him or me. I fear for my children and grandchildren!!!

Since we all have sin, then we should treat others the same if they
are married or walking with an escort service.


Romans 12:10
Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor.

Ephesians 5:21
Submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.

1 Peter 3:8
Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind.

Ephesians 4:32
Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

Romans 14:1
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions.

Matthew 22:36-39
“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

Matthew 7:12
“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

Matthew 7:1-2
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.



Luke 6:31
And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.

 

[SkyWriting]

One could say the degree of seriousness would be the degree to which the act is adversarial to loving neighbour as self (which is God's will.) Murder on the scale for instance, would really go against loving neighbour as self and rate high.

James 2:10

 

[HTacianas]

John 8:34
Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin.
James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.

1Jo 5:16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.

1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

 

[SkyWriting]

A sin is a sin. This world is getting nuts, it's past crazy.

Yet there are others who advocate immorality -homosexuality, wanton sexual immorality, abortion- whose sins should be private but their advocacy makes them public.

When sin is made public and openly encouraged, it is right to oppose it. If the details of those sins were discussed here even in the most clinical language the post would likely be deleted and you would likely be banned for profanity. That is how serious some sins are.

There is no need to detail other sins that we think are worse than our own.
Becasue God considers "ours" the same as "theirs".

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.

 

[SkyWriting]

1Jo 5:16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.

1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

The one sin that leads to death is refusing God's forgiveness.
Jesus died for all sin and this includes all sin.
But, if you refuse to honor God's work in this matter, this leads to death.
Refusing the Holy Spirits forgiveness build a barrier that God's forgiveness cannot breach.
This is "The Sin that leads to death" that we should not pray receives forgiveness anyway.

God does not get mad about some "bad" sins. Humans rank sins, God does not.
If you have a toddler, you don't turn on them for killing another child.
You don't rank the level of their sex crimes as "unforgivable".
Parents don't do that. Neither does God.

 

[SkyWriting]

In today's world, there's "big sins" and "little sins". Homosexuality, fornication, murder, etc. are the "big ones". These are the sins that we focus on most, the ones that make us cover our mouths and look away in horror.

But what about the other sins that no one talks about? Little white lies, acting out in anger, hating someone (which is the same as murder!), disobeying our parents, pride, laziness...all these things are listed in the Bible as wrong. Yet we don't talk about them. Even adultery can get glossed over!

That doesn't excuse our "lack of compassion" sin.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.

Our "lack of compassion" sin is due to us ranking others sins worse than our own.

Romans 15:2
Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, to build him up.

 

[HTacianas]

There is no need to detail other sins that we think are worse than our own.
Becasue God considers "ours" the same as "theirs".

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.

You claim to speak for God?

 

[SkyWriting]

So when is it a sin?

Yours sins against God are 100% private.
Others cannot see your sins clearly enough to judge them.
Only God is qualified to know your heart.


Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that you be not judged.

Hebrews 13:4
Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

John 7:24
Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

James 4:12
There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

1 Samuel 16:7
But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

Proverbs 4:23
Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life.

Jeremiah 17:10
“I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.”

Sin is when you know the right thing to do in your heart, but do not do it.


Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.

James 4:17
So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.

 

[HTacianas]

The one sin that leads to death is refusing God's forgiveness.
Jesus died for all sin and this includes all sin.
But, if you refuse to honor God's work in this matter, this leads to death.
Refusing the Holy Spirits forgiveness build a barrier that God's forgiveness cannot breach.
This is "The Sin that leads to death" that we should not pray receives forgiveness anyway.

God does not get mad about some "bad" sins. Humans rank sins, God does not.
If you have a toddler, you don't turn on them for killing another child.
You don't rank the level of their sex crimes as "unforgivable".
Parents don't do that. Neither does God.

You would have to take that up with four thousand years now of commentators, laws, rules, etc., of both Judaism and Christianity. Judaism has it:

Lev 5:18 “And he shall bring to the priest a ram without blemish from the flock, with your valuation, as a trespass offering. So the priest shall make atonement for him regarding his ignorance in which he erred and did not know it, and it shall be forgiven him.

There is no sacrifice in the old testament for willful sins. A sin committed in ignorance is just such sin the writer of 1 John meant when he said "If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death..." i.e., a sin committed in ignorance. Or as the Roman Church defines it, a venial sin.

 

[SkyWriting]

You claim to speak for God?

I claim that I speak what scripture says. It's up to the
Holy Spirit to apply scripture to your heart correctly,
even if I make a mistake in it's presentation.

What Does the Bible Say About Knowing What Is Sin?

 

[HTacianas]

I claim that I speak what scripture says. It's up to the
Holy Spirit to apply scripture to your heart correctly,
even if I make a mistake in it's presentation.

What Does the Bible Say About Knowing What Is Sin?

I have merely quoted the appropriate scriptures to you and you have repeatedly denied them in favor of your own opinion.