When is humility the wrong option?

[Godlovesmetwo]

Jesus teaches us to be humble. But to my way of thinking, that gets us in trouble in the "real world". We need to assert ourselves in order to survive?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

" When is humility the wrong option? "

Jesus never did anything of Himself, but always as YHWH ABBA directed Him.

So humility is right only when it is obedient to YHWH,
and it is wrong when it is disobedient to YHWH.

(maybe also sin, but not necessarily, as it may be like when a little child is learning and gets mixed up)

Jesus often got "in trouble" in the real world, (but NEVER with YHWH),
as
did all the Apostles and disciples (sometimes with YHWH ) .

They denied themselves and did not "stand up for their rights" when wronged or robbed. Instead they often gave more to the robber ! as YHWH'S WORD says to do ! They cared not for prestige, position, or possessions,
not even for their own lives, but entrusted themselves and all their lives to YHWH ABBA by faith in Y'SHUA .

 

[Winken]

I used to assert myself. Then I learned that being humble in the Christian perspective was wiser. My assertions were not reflective of my Faith.

 

[keith99]

I have been told the word translated as humility means power under control.

Never a bad choice.

Some confuse humility with being downtrodden and service with being weak.

Look up Ich dien. Hardly a saying of weakness.

 

[Hank77]

I once read this written by a Christian author, I cannot remember who it was.

The Greek word used for meek, a synonym of humble, is the same Greek word that was used to describe their war horses. They were powerful beasts trained to fight in a battle but in total submission to their trainer/rider.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

Being humble is a correct - realistic - assessment of one's abilities and rank.

Being humble is NOT a continuous and false underestimating of one's ability or worth.

Did Jesus violate the concept of humility when He showed the Pharisees to be misunderstanding of their concept of 'the Law' and 'righteousness'? How about when He threw the money changers and animal traders out of the Temple area?

BetterCallPaul, you seem to have confused humble and humility with 'inferiority complex'. This is not correct.

 

[Truth Commentor]

" When is humility the wrong option? "

Jesus never did anything of Himself, but always as YHWH ABBA directed Him.

So humility is right only when it is obedient to YHWH,
and it is wrong when it is disobedient to YHWH.

(maybe also sin, but not necessarily, as it may be like when a little child is learning and gets mixed up)

Jesus often got "in trouble" in the real world, (but NEVER with YHWH),
as
did all the Apostles and disciples (sometimes with YHWH ) .

They denied themselves and did not "stand up for their rights" when wronged or robbed. Instead they often gave more to the robber ! as YHWH'S WORD says to do ! They cared not for prestige, position, or possessions,
not even for their own lives, but entrusted themselves and all their lives to YHWH ABBA by faith in Y'SHUA .

Amen brother God bless. It is important we remember as Christians we WILL go through tribulation- small or large. We must remain humble as Christians and stand for God.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

BetterCallPaul, you seem to have confused humble and humility with 'inferiority complex'. This is not correct.

not sure, you might be right.
If I am full of confidence all the time and tend not to listen much, well I don't think God approves of such behaviour generally speaking.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

not sure, you might be right.
If I am full of confidence all the time and tend not to listen much, well I don't think God approves of such behaviour generally speaking.

I also do not think so. Of course, I don't have such problems.

Pardon me while I ride out this coughing seizure.

I began life with an inferiority complex. God has been some sixty years working on me to dispel it and we are (He is) making progress. At the same time, I cannot do everything. Nor do I know everything. (Just almost everything.)

Another example from the Bible. Moses. Moses the guy who went into the Egyptian Pharaoh's palace and told Pharaoh to let the Israelites go or face the consequences; remember? Moses is later described as 'meek'.

"Meek"? That doesn't sound right in current English in the United States. Probably because 'we' have a mistaken idea of 'meek'.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Probably because 'we' have a mistaken idea of 'meek'.

So what does "meek" mean?

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Ok, I will try to think of some scenarios when humble might be the wrong option.

• When you are advocating for yourself or someone else. Complaining about poor customer service for instance.
• You are getting a "dressing down" from the boss. He is raising his voice and abusing you for poor performance. Do you just take it?
• A family member is talking to you on the phone without letting you get a word in. They seem to be uninterested in your input. Do you just let it ride?

 

[Hank77]

So what does "meek" mean?

Maybe something like Posts 4 and 5?

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

They were powerful beasts trained to fight in a battle but in total submission to their trainer/rider.

The trainer being God right?

I have been told the word translated as humility means power under control.

Seems contradictory to me.

 

[Hank77]

When you are advocating for yourself or someone else. Complaining about poor customer service for instance.

Be polite, be calm, and no whining. But clearly state the problem and thank them ahead of time for solving it.

You are getting a "dressing down" from the boss. He is raising his voice and abusing you for poor performance. Do you just take it?

For me this would be to just respectfully listen. Then ask if I could have time to think over what he/she said and schedule a time to talk again in the next couple of days.

A family member is talking to you on the phone without letting you get a word in. They seem to be uninterested in your input. Do you just let it ride?

If depends on how often you have to talk to them.

 

[Hank77]

The trainer being God right?

Yup

Seems contradictory to me.

Actually I think that power under control is kind of what the war horse is like.

 

[SkyWriting]

Jesus teaches us to be humble. But to my way of thinking, that gets us in trouble in the "real world". We need to assert ourselves in order to survive?

Just as Jesus asserted Himself to die for everyone on the planet.
The next life takes no cash or credit cards to enter.

 

[Inkfingers]

Be humble towards God, polite towards man, and imperious towards Satan.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Be humble towards God, polite towards man, and imperious towards Satan.

I have to look up imperious.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Humble, quiet people need to speak up and
loud, talkative ones need to speak less.

 

[SkyWriting]

Jesus teaches us to be humble. But to my way of thinking, that gets us in trouble in the "real world". We need to assert ourselves in order to survive?

Survival in this life in not the top priority.