When facebook is a total disadvantage

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[Flipper]

Facebook and social media is like money. It isn't good, it isn't bad, it just is. It is what you do with it, and how you treat it, that is good or bad. I just don't post specifically about work, period. I also don't post when I'm expected to be working. Better to be safe, than sorry.

 

[twin.spin]

Facebook and social media is like money. It isn't good, it isn't bad, it just is. It is what you do with it, and how you treat it, that is good or bad. I just don't post specifically about work, period. I also don't post when I'm expected to be working. Better to be safe, than sorry.

Yes, I agree ... better to be safe than sorry.
For example, here is the company policy of where I used to work, it states:

CONFIDENTIALITY, PRIVACY AND INFORMATION PROTECTION
Much of the information with which we come into contact at work each day is confidential.

Confidential information is not generally known to competitors and others outside the Company and may include: financial information, including but not limited to information about sales, earnings, expenses and investments; pricing information; vendor or supplier lists; customer data; plans for future store/facility locations; business development materials; costs of goods; personnel files; Company policies, manuals, guidelines, procedures and SOPs; computer software; design documents and specifications; videos; and memos.

Confidential information is critical to our competitive advantage and must not be disclosed, except as specifically authorized or legally required. Information that has been made public by the Company, such as press releases, news articles or advertisements, is not considered confidential and does not require protection.

It is the responsibility of each of us to use discretion in handling Company information so that we do not inadvertently reveal confidential information to competitors, vendors, suppliers, friends and/or family members.
If you are unsure about whether certain information is confidential, presume that it is.

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and this policy is taken seriously ... sometimes though the policy is taken too far. For example:

September 17, 2012 CNET News
Judge: **** ***** (name of corporation withheld) went too far in seeking worker's social posts

A federal judge in California has rejected **** *****'s attempt to gain broad access to Facebook, Twitter, and other social-network posts made by a former employee who sued the retailer two years ago.

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Think of this ... we currently have the Justice Dept controversy going after AP & Fox reporters which many are saying that appears to be going against the 1st Amendment, then we have the IRS admitting to targeting conservative groups (which they are documented to inquiring about the context of prayers).. as I said in post #33 ... we need to start waking up as to what is happening here.

 

[Flipper]

Yes, I agree ... better to be safe than sorry.
For example, here is the company policy of where I used to work, it states:

CONFIDENTIALITY, PRIVACY AND INFORMATION PROTECTION
Much of the information with which we come into contact at work each day is confidential.

Confidential information is not generally known to competitors and others outside the Company and may include: financial information, including but not limited to information about sales, earnings, expenses and investments; pricing information; vendor or supplier lists; customer data; plans for future store/facility locations; business development materials; costs of goods; personnel files; Company policies, manuals, guidelines, procedures and SOPs; computer software; design documents and specifications; videos; and memos.

Confidential information is critical to our competitive advantage and must not be disclosed, except as specifically authorized or legally required. Information that has been made public by the Company, such as press releases, news articles or advertisements, is not considered confidential and does not require protection.

It is the responsibility of each of us to use discretion in handling Company information so that we do not inadvertently reveal confidential information to competitors, vendors, suppliers, friends and/or family members.
If you are unsure about whether certain information is confidential, presume that it is.

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and this policy is taken seriously ... sometimes though the policy is taken too far. For example:

September 17, 2012 CNET News
Judge: **** ***** (name of corporation withheld) went too far in seeking worker's social posts

A federal judge in California has rejected **** *****'s attempt to gain broad access to Facebook, Twitter, and other social-network posts made by a former employee who sued the retailer two years ago.

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Think of this ... we currently have the Justice Dept controversy going after AP & Fox reporters which many are saying that appears to be going against the 1st Amendment, then we have the IRS admitting to targeting conservative groups (which they are documented to inquiring about the context of prayers).. as I said in post #33 ... we need to start waking up as to what is happening here.

I recently attended a seminar for paralegals on social media and the law. In a nutshell, right now, anything you post on social media, no matter what your privacy settings are, or whether it is a private message or not, is discoverable in a lawsuit. You have a case where a judge struck it down, but there are other cases where it was allowed. My handout is still at work, but there was one in particular cited where the information was allowed (though the speaker said subpoenaing Facebook for records is next to impossible). Another case cited was where an attorney told his client to delete his posts from Facebook - and for doing that the attorney got sanctioned and reported to that state's bar (I think it was Pennsylvania).

I was told that some states have bills in their legislatures to make it illegal for an employer to ask for your social media log in information when applying for a job, or while working in a job - which I think is a good thing. However, I can kind of see where it gets tricky if you are in sales for a company that requires a non-compete agreement to be signed, and your customers friend you on Facebook, or follow you on Twitter. Looks like your former employer has geeky attorneys who are up to date on stuff like that.

The law still has to catch up with technology. I have yet to see discovery requests in any of our cases including social media in any communication requested, but it's only a matter of time - also I don't work in employment law. I do have colleagues dealing with it in their cases. I will say social media has been a huge research tool that I utilize at work all the time - amazing what you can find about the other side, or experts, etc.

I took from the seminar that I better set my privacy settings at their highest level and post as though there are no privacy settings.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I took from the seminar that I better set my privacy settings at their highest level and post as though there are no privacy settings.

My mom used to tell me, back when I kept a journal, that if I didn't want someone reading it, I shouldn't be writing it.

It's been good advice for a loooooong time.

 

[twin.spin]

I will say social media has been a huge research tool that I utilize at work all the time - amazing what you can find about the other side, or experts, etc.

I took from the seminar that I better set my privacy settings at their highest level and post as though there are no privacy settings.

What I think is interesting is how the ruling was worded (in the next paragraph) that a company has the right to limited access to current \ former employees and in this case this former employee pertaining to her employment or the lawsuit ...

U.S. Magistrate Judge Suzanne Segal ruled this month that the
big box retailer had the rights only to "social-networking
communications between plaintiff and any current or former
**** ***** employees" that relate to her employment or the
lawsuit.
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Notice what the ruling leaves out ... applicants.
Nowhere does it say that a corporation has rights to an applicants social network that they use.
I bet that would extend down to a local manager.

And I wouldn't put it past some ACLU lawyer to sue a corporation if an employer isn't allowed to ask about certain details in an interview but then uses social media. (which by the way "social media" isn't limited to just twitter and facebook.)

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[QuiltAngel]

Well, I am in medical and I am bound by HIPP and am not allowed to post anything regarding work etc. It would cost me my license and my job.

 

[twin.spin]

Well, I am in medical and I am bound by HIPP and am not allowed to post anything regarding work etc. It would cost me my license and my job.

Would that also include information concerning co-workers covered not just patients, that it would fall under HIPP ?

 

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[Hummie]

I have a love/hate relationship with Facebook.

I love keeping up with family.
I hate when family/friends I care about unfriend me as that hurts a lot.

I love seeing old classmates.
I hate when it seems like high school and the popular people get all the likes and the nobodies get maybe one.

I love being able to share my Christian images and prayers on my Facebook page.
I hate the algorithms whereby Facebook decides who sees my page and who does not.

 

[ThisEbenezer]

My #1 Rule of Facebook.
Don't Friend Bosses / Coworkers, No good can ever come of it.
#2 Rule, Private on almost everything

Exactly my rules. None of my co-workers or direct reports are friends with me on Facebook. It's for my personal life only and when you start adding people you work with it can get complicated.

 

[HereIstand.Todd]

FB is awful. I'm not and will not be on there. I use it for church but that's it. I have also told all my friends and family not to ever mention my full name on there and to never ever post any photos of me and/or my immediate family.

How immature and high-schooly to delete you just because something happened at work.

What are your thoughts about why Facebook is bad? What makes it all bad?