When does having suicidal thoughts become a problem?

[alilsa]

When does having suicidal thoughts become a problem? Short of pulling a trigger, and by then it's too late but right now, I don't have anyone to talk to really. I'm sad most of the time and people I know, have gotten in their vehichle and fallen asleep and was in accidents and died. One day, they are in church and the next week, in the funeral home. I think about that stuff when I drive a bit that nobody really cared enough to talk to me the last time I attempted suicide when I cut my wrist. I've been to shrinks and took meds before but they didn't help me, either. I'm not close to anyone either. What are the symptoms to look for anyhow of when to worry about suicide? Being told that you kill your stupid self, you'll bust hell wide open just don't help either.

 

[BlackRain]

first off, the only sin that God cannot forgive is not accepting his Son as Savior.
now, suicidal thoughts become a problem when you first start thinking about them. the fact that you're considering it is a major problem. when did you start feeling like this, girl? i'm so sorry about what's happened in your life. life is sooo hard at times!! but please don't give up. there is hope found in Jesus Christ. you can talk to me anytime...i'd love to talk to you.

 

[fallen^sparrow]

I would say suicide is a problem the first time... and every time you consider it as a possible option. Having seen suicide in person its not pretty, "romantic" or easy on any one involved. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem... which depression is, temporary. Depression is an illness, a chemical imbalance within the brain and thankfully very treatable today. What types of medications have you tried in the past? Medications are a very tailored fit... you may have to try a few (or alot like in my case) before you find one that works well, but its worth the effort when you find one that does so don't lose heart. What sort of support are you getting from family and friends around you?

fallen^sparrow

 

[Endearing lil Influenza]

For I myself (what I myself believe for myself :-Þ)... I consider it a problem whenever I start having any suicidal fantasies... and I'd start seeking help for I believe it is my responsibility to do so.

I have very little memory of what my belief was like last year when my depression was really severe...

so I suppose... any suicidal feelings is a problem and should be addressed ASAP... while you can still think properly.

 

[Ariella]

Hi. It becomes a problem when you start having them. For some people it can easily be worked out and is just a "thought" that they can deal with, put in its right place and move on. But if it gets to where you are dwelling on the thoughts, having them often, or taking any steps to act on them, then it is getting to be a really serious problem. I'm sorry you've had such bad past experiences in asking for help for yourself and hope you do find someone who can help you. I agree that being told that comment about hell doesn't help at all and can push people further towards suicide than away

 

[Lexi/is/a/JesusFreak]

When does having suicidal thoughts become a problem? Short of pulling a trigger, and by then it's too late but right now, I don't have anyone to talk to really. I'm sad most of the time and people I know, have gotten in their vehichle and fallen asleep and was in accidents and died. One day, they are in church and the next week, in the funeral home. I think about that stuff when I drive a bit that nobody really cared enough to talk to me the last time I attempted suicide when I cut my wrist. I've been to shrinks and took meds before but they didn't help me, either. I'm not close to anyone either. What are the symptoms to look for anyhow of when to worry about suicide? Being told that you kill your stupid self, you'll bust hell wide open just don't help either.

i would say when u have the pills in ur hand. seriously i've been that far b4. its scary to think about now. sucks dont it? i will pray for u anyways.


ps, Jesus is ur 24 hour hotline. he will always b there to listen

 

[RSteel]

I'm really really sorry to hear you've been having suicidal thoughts. I know they will pass soon though! I've been to the brink of suicide before and I know it's not fun! The point is, Jesus will always bring you through! No matter what you have to face. I had a lot of problems when I was growing up with pills and what not...but I try to stay away from them now. I still have a whole bottle of anti-depressants at the house, but honestly I just won't go near them. I've just become afraid of them. Sometimes, just having a calendar and counting off the days until you feel better helps...I know that sounds so...wasteful....but at times, it can work for awhile...enough to bring you through your immediate problems and into better times for yourself.

 

[ronaldp]

Hi, I think that when you are thinking of committing suicide is the point when you should ask help or pray. I myself have suicidal thoughts but what helps me get through it is thinking that my problems won't last and there's always some good things that came out of a bad thing and I also think that tommorow is going to be a new day and it's going to be better, if not tommorow then the next day if not the next day then the next next day, eventually it does get better, all you have to do is wait. God will make your life better if you ask him, even if it doesn't feel better now, it will eventually, all you have to do is wait for that day when everything is better. Besides, if you commit suicide right now, think of what you will be missing in the future, think about the friends that you're gonna make, think about the relationship that you're going to make and think of the events that you're going to experience that will just make you speechless. Just think of today's good thing even if it's a small one and think if you have committed suicide yesterday you wouldn't be experiencing that good thing today. I know that sometimes the bad seems to overcome the good, but that's just life, some days are good and some days are bad, all you have to do is just be patience and wait for the many many many good days ahead because you will experience joy in your life. Right now I still have some suicidial thoughts, but thinking of the good things that will happen in the future like getting married and having children really helped me. If you ask God He will give you hope to continue, even when you feel like garbage, God sees you as His precious treasure. So keep on going, never give up on life, because eventually it will get good and when it's good it's really good.

 

[alilsa]

I am suppose to trust God with whatever is bothering me. If I trusted Him, I wouldn't be feeling so suicidal. I trust him at times but when I cut or things get really tense and I can't handl3e the emotions I shut down and cut or burn myself instead of crying or finding a healthier way to handle things. I should have talked to God more and have a better relationship with him. But sometimes I still can't get the ideas of death out of my head. I just want the problems to stop, not roast in hell. I should have beleived that God can do something with my really screwed up life and use it. I should have believed he has more than enough love to make me feel safe and that he would have loved me more than I could have ever imagined. Why is it so scary to try to trust someone when everyone else walked out on me but God? Everyone else treated me like a reject or a misfit but God would accept me. What is wrong with me.How do you just trust God when you have nothing else to hang on to, is he enough?

 

[Serving4Christ]

Alilsa,

You should be proud for opening up. You're crying for help whether you realize it or not. Suicidal thoughts alone are not too uncommon. It's when they are dwelt upon and looked at as the solution rather than an escape route like it is. When you're depressed the OUT looks so much better than the IN. But look at this figure below...

Now ._____________________________> Eternity

We tend to focus on what's happening NOW rather than what's in store for us. The dot represents what's going on in our lives now, and the line that keeps going forever is what we have to look forward to. Don't concentrate on the dot...but look ahead at what Jesus promised you. This life is short and nothing should keep you from getting through this life. As I type, I'm reminding my self of the same thing. I deal with depression and suicidal thought almost weekly and sometimes daily. It helps me to know I'm not the only one going through these trials. I know now that every circumstance I go through can make me stronger. I know I'm suppose to share my experience and help others as they're going through it, and if I don't...I'm wasting "Jabez" moments.

First thing to help curb your depressive thought/suicidal thoughts is to find something to occupy your mind. The more down time you have the more of a chance you have to dwell on it. Find a hobby! Find a group to socialize with. Get involved in church. Do something besides give yourself time to dwell. Second, seek help like you are. If you haven't checked already, see if perhaps there's a chemical imbalance. Third, get rid of your tools, and you know what I mean. Get rid of the tools you use to cut and surround yourself with other tools that benefit you. 1) You're bible 2) Self-help books 3) Friends 4) Hobbies 5) most importantly Jesus!

My PM is always available. I know how important it is to have an ear when you need it. My heart and prayers are with you....you're not alone.

 

[stumbler88]

The temptation to kill oneself, or the desire to die, is not in itself a sin (even Jesus was tempted: Matthew 4:5, 6; cp. Luke 4:9-11).

A. Even spiritual men like Moses, Elijah and Job – as well as the prophet Jonah – all expressed a desire to end it all, in times of discouragement.

1. Moses.

Numbers 11:11-15 And Moses said unto the Lord, Wherefore hast thou afflicted thy servant? and wherefore have I not found favour in thy sight, that thou layest the burden of all this people upon me? Have I conceived all this people? have I begotten them, that thou shouldest say unto me, Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing father beareth the sucking child, unto the land which thou swarest unto their fathers? Whence should I have flesh to give unto all this people? for they weep unto me, saying, Give us flesh, that we may eat. I am not able to bear all this people alone, because it is too heavy for me. And if thou deal thus with me, kill me, I pray thee, out of hand, if I have found favour in thy sight; and let me not see my wretchedness.

2. Elijah.

1 Kings 19:4 But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O Lord, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers.

3. Job.

Job 3:1-26 After this opened Job his mouth, and cursed his day. And Job spake, and said, Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived. Let that day be darkness; ... Because it shut not up the doors of my mother's womb, nor hid sorrow from mine eyes. Why died I not from the womb? why did I not give up the ghost when I came out of the belly? ...For now should I have lain still and been quiet, I should have slept: then had I been at rest, ... Or as an hidden untimely birth I had not been; as infants which never saw light. There the wicked cease from troubling; and there the weary be at rest. ...Wherefore is light given to him that is in misery, and life unto the bitter in soul; Which long for death, but it cometh not... Which rejoice exceedingly, and are glad, when they can find the grave? Why is light given to a man whose way is hid, and whom God hath hedged in? For my sighing cometh before I eat, and my roarings are poured out like the waters. For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me. I was not in safety, neither had I rest, neither was I quiet; yet trouble came.

Job 6:8-11 Oh that I might have my request; and that God would grant me the thing that I long for! Even that it would please God to destroy me; that he would let loose his hand, and cut me off!

Job 7:1-6, 15, 16 Is there not an appointed time to man upon earth?.. So am I made to possess months of vanity, and wearisome nights are appointed to me. When I lie down, I say, When shall I arise, and the night be gone? and I am full of tossings to and fro unto the dawning of the day. My flesh is clothed with worms and clods of dust; my skin is broken, and become loathsome. My days are ... spent without hope.... So that my soul chooseth strangling, and death rather than my life. I loathe it; I would not live alway: let me alone; for my days are vanity.

Job 10:1 My soul is weary of my life; I will leave my complaint upon myself; I will speak in the bitterness of my soul.

Job 14:13 Oh that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!

4. Jonah.

Jonah 4:8 ... and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live.

B. Although these audibly expressed their desire to die, Scripture says they merely "requested" it of God. They did not attempt to take their life into their own hands.
C. In the midst of extreme physical pain, having lost many of his family members in a terrible tragedy, as well as his possessions – and abandoned by his wife, who told him to "curse God and die" – Job felt like giving up. At the time, he could not see past his pain; his thinking was not right. However, eventually, his time of testing was done: circumstances changed and Scripture says, "God blessed the end of Job more than his beginning."
D. Hebrews chapter 11 well describes the terrible tortures endured by those in the Hall of Faith/Fame: "cruel mockings and scourgings...bonds and imprisonment: they were stoned, they were sawn asunder... slain with the sword... destitute, afflicted, tormented..." They did not give up; they endured to the end.

I hope that this helps you and i pray that the angels watch over you

 

[If Not For Grace]

IF you have to ask you know it's a problem.

 

[alilsa]

Well, I guess it's a problem since 15% of the people with depression commit suicide and of all the people who commit suicide about 80% or more had depression or a mental illness.

 

[VeryTiredGirl]

Depression is an illness, a chemical imbalance within the brain and thankfully very treatable today. What types of medications have you tried in the past? Medications are a very tailored fit... you may have to try a few (or alot like in my case) before you find one that works well, but its worth the effort when you find one that does so don't lose heart.

Depression is often easily treated, but not for everyone. I'm considered treatment resistant-I first got diagnosably ill in 1992, and have been in my current episode in varying degrees since 1997-8. I'm on the final medication available to me. I'm allergic to anaesthetic, so ECT is out (not that I'd use it), and there's not much more. I've also done the gamut of therapy, so I don't know what else is left.