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When does a prayer expire?

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I've been asking myself lately: How long does a prayer last? When does it expire, and when it is therefore time to pray again?

One of my favorite times of the day is in the early morning before the sun wakes up when I can sit with my morning coffee, my book of daily devotionals, and God. I use this time to pray and connect with Him, focusing on life's most important matters at the time. Most days, I drive almost 40 miles to work. Every morning on my way to work I turn off the radio and say a prayer. This is a time when I can really connect and focus -- very little traffic on my drive, with only the sunrise and some mountains to look at. It is so peaceful. When times are particularly troubling, I value this time even more.

If for some reason I ever skip this morning prayer, I feel off-balance for the rest of the day. So, I make it a point to never skip it. Usually, I feel totally at peace afterwards, despite anything troublesome that I prayed about. And the more troublesome my situation is, the harder I pray and the more I connect with God, and the better I feel afterward.

By the end of my day, I find myself already worrying and anxious again about whatever it was I prayed about that morning. Then I start worrying that maybe I didn't pray hard enough, long enough, seriously enough, etc. the first time. I begin to wonder if my morning prayer is wearing off and a new (similar or even identical) prayer is needed. But how could I be so uneasy about something that brought me so much peace less than 12 hours earlier? Why does my peace begin to wear off?

And so, I pray again. But, I will admit, it's difficult, especially after a long day, to stay as focused in prayer. Sometimes if it's really later at night, I'll get so deep into my prayer that I'll nearly fall asleep.

So, when does a prayer expire? Even if I begin to feel the peace wearing off, is my first prayer still heard? I know the answer to this is yes. The "wearing off" doesn't invalidate any prayers I've already said. But does anyone else wonder the same thing?

What's more important-- quality or quantity? Does a quick prayer under my breath in the midst of a stressful situation at work have the same effect as a long, focused prayer alone in my car or with my morning coffee? If ever I only take the time for the small under-my-breath prayers, I begin to feel guilty that I'm losing focus. Usually the long focused prayer in the morning covers me for the whole day, but not always.

How do you know when it's time to pray again? For me, I think I know I need to pray as soon as I begin to feel worried or anxious. But does the short prayer really cut it?
 

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How do you know when it's time to pray again? For me, I think I know I need to pray as soon as I begin to feel worried or anxious. But does the short prayer really cut it?

I don't believe prayers ever expire, but needs change, and often we need to persevere in prayer to win the victory.

Monitoring your inner peace is a good way to know that prayer is needed. It's a sign we need to reconnect. But several times in the NT we are told to pray without ceasing. So anytime is the right time to pray, and we can integrate it appropriately with whatever we're doing.

Ephesians 6 not only tells us to pray at "all times" in the Spirit, it says to do so with "all prayer". I find that the best way to pray is the way Holy Spirit leads at any given time. I may go into prayer with an idea how I am going to pray. It might be the way I settle on or it might not. Sometimes I begin a certain way that is fine, but Holy Spirit at some point takes over and leads me differently. It's best to be yielded, and to pray according to the needs and direction of the moment.

And then there's Rom 8.26-27!

I hope I'm addressing what you actually asked...
 
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Short prayers are fine.
Although it does help us, rather than God, who knows what you need before you say it, sometimes to pray in the quiet times so we have that peace...but you dont have to be OCD about it.

Cast all your cares upon Him for he cares for you.
I dont think prayers expire but there are many different ways of praying. God accepts all kinds of prayers, as long as we do them in Jesus name and with thanksgiving.
 
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Prayers do not expire, God does not forget the things that we pray for. He holds them dear to Him and will act upon them at the right time (often when we least expect it). Pray about the anxiousness that overtakes you in the evenings about your morning prayers as God has not given us a spirit of fear or worry or anxiousness, but one of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. God is faithful, He listens to our prayers and will never fail us.
 
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I've been asking myself lately: How long does a prayer last? When does it expire, and when it is therefore time to pray again?

One of my favorite times of the day is in the early morning before the sun wakes up when I can sit with my morning coffee, my book of daily devotionals, and God. I use this time to pray and connect with Him, focusing on life's most important matters at the time. Most days, I drive almost 40 miles to work. Every morning on my way to work I turn off the radio and say a prayer. This is a time when I can really connect and focus -- very little traffic on my drive, with only the sunrise and some mountains to look at. It is so peaceful. When times are particularly troubling, I value this time even more.

If for some reason I ever skip this morning prayer, I feel off-balance for the rest of the day. So, I make it a point to never skip it. Usually, I feel totally at peace afterwards, despite anything troublesome that I prayed about. And the more troublesome my situation is, the harder I pray and the more I connect with God, and the better I feel afterward.

By the end of my day, I find myself already worrying and anxious again about whatever it was I prayed about that morning. Then I start worrying that maybe I didn't pray hard enough, long enough, seriously enough, etc. the first time. I begin to wonder if my morning prayer is wearing off and a new (similar or even identical) prayer is needed. But how could I be so uneasy about something that brought me so much peace less than 12 hours earlier? Why does my peace begin to wear off?

And so, I pray again. But, I will admit, it's difficult, especially after a long day, to stay as focused in prayer. Sometimes if it's really later at night, I'll get so deep into my prayer that I'll nearly fall asleep.

So, when does a prayer expire? Even if I begin to feel the peace wearing off, is my first prayer still heard? I know the answer to this is yes. The "wearing off" doesn't invalidate any prayers I've already said. But does anyone else wonder the same thing?

What's more important-- quality or quantity? Does a quick prayer under my breath in the midst of a stressful situation at work have the same effect as a long, focused prayer alone in my car or with my morning coffee? If ever I only take the time for the small under-my-breath prayers, I begin to feel guilty that I'm losing focus. Usually the long focused prayer in the morning covers me for the whole day, but not always.

How do you know when it's time to pray again? For me, I think I know I need to pray as soon as I begin to feel worried or anxious. But does the short prayer really cut it?

what you say when you pray is critical; and many prayers that most Christians would find inspiring are actually in opposition to what God has said. for example; let's say you ask God to be with you today as you go - since He has said that He will never leave you nor forsake you, this prayer opposes His words - a better thing to pray is 'thank you God that you are with me even when i don't realize it'. effective prayer isn't something you do to get God to respond to you, effective prayer is your response to what He has already said and done - effective prayer doesn't move God, it moves you.

effective prayers don't expire because effective prayer always lines up with what He has already said about you and done for you in the spiritual realm; effective prayer is your response that brings what He has said about you and promised you from the spiritual realm into the natural or physical realm. your peace is not something that God may or may not give you; your peace is something that He has already given to you that you may or may not receive - and the effectiveness of your receiving is based on what you think on. when you sense that you are 'losing' your peace, it is an indicator that your mind is no longer stayed on Him, rather than that He is no longer giving you peace:

Isa 26:3 KJV
(3) Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

God hears everything you think and say; He's always there with you, whether you are mindful of His presence or not - the question is not whether He will hear your prayer, the question is 'does my prayer reflect that i've heard from Him - does it line up with what He's already said to me in His word?'

what's most important is that you strive to be led by Him (as His leading is already blessed) rather than strive to get Him to bless what you've decided to do. if you are striving to be led by Him, you will pray constantly, prayers like 'is this what i should be doing right now Lord?', 'i'm not feeling well right now Lord; please remind me of what you've said about walking in divine health and fighting off the devil's attacks of sickness', 'Lord i don't have the money to pay for a car repair right now, but You said that if i seek You first, all things i need will be added to me - what do you want me to do about this?'

how do you know when it's time to pray again? when you realize that you are no longer mindful of Him and His promises of victory, life, health, peace, joy - for me that means i must strive to 'pray without ceasing' :)
 
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We are taught to pray without ceasing to defend against the attacks of the enemy
Where does this idea come from?

God is eternal and wants to hear our prayers
True.

God is not forgetful.
I don't believe that anyone said he is. The question wasn't about his forgetting anything but about prayers possibly "expiring." That was a somewhat odd word to use, I thought, but it doesn't have anything to do with God forgetting.
 
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Thank you all for your thoughtful and reassuring responses.
Something amazing happened last week. One morning on my drive to work, I could barely even start my prayer because I couldn't stop myself from crying. This worry that was overcoming me was preventing me from thinking straight or being able to clearly pray. So, I changed my prayer that morning. I said, "God, I can't get my words out right now, but I know you know what I want to say even though I can't say it, and I know you will only do things that will be good for me. Please accept this prayer and help me remember you are always right there with me regardless of whether or not I verbalize my prayers, now and in the future." I felt a sense of peace knowing that God would understand.
That day after work, the thing that had been worrying me so much miraculously took care of itself. I'm just amazed.
 
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Prayers never expire. God does not need to be reminded of what you want him to do.

Perhaps this will help: take a look at Matthew 6:8, and see for yourself what Jesus tells us about whether or not God knows what we want.

However, if you feel like you want to pray more, pray more. Pray, pray, pray. Praying is the most important thing in your relationship with God. Other people may destroy all the copies you have of the Bible and of any other Christian books you may have, imprison you, cut your connexions with your brothers in Christ, cut your Internet access and thus any information you may get regarding the Bible, and set you isolated from the world so that you cannot preach the Gospel — but they will never be able to cut the connexion you can make with God via prayer.
 
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what you say when you pray is critical; and many prayers that most Christians would find inspiring are actually in opposition to what God has said. for example; let's say you ask God to be with you today as you go - since He has said that He will never leave you nor forsake you, this prayer opposes His words - a better thing to pray is 'thank you God that you are with me even when i don't realize it'. effective prayer isn't something you do to get God to respond to you, effective prayer is your response to what He has already said and done - effective prayer doesn't move God, it moves you.

effective prayers don't expire because effective prayer always lines up with what He has already said about you and done for you in the spiritual realm; effective prayer is your response that brings what He has said about you and promised you from the spiritual realm into the natural or physical realm. your peace is not something that God may or may not give you; your peace is something that He has already given to you that you may or may not receive - and the effectiveness of your receiving is based on what you think on. when you sense that you are 'losing' your peace, it is an indicator that your mind is no longer stayed on Him, rather than that He is no longer giving you peace:

Isa 26:3 KJV
(3) Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.

God hears everything you think and say; He's always there with you, whether you are mindful of His presence or not - the question is not whether He will hear your prayer, the question is 'does my prayer reflect that i've heard from Him - does it line up with what He's already said to me in His word?'

what's most important is that you strive to be led by Him (as His leading is already blessed) rather than strive to get Him to bless what you've decided to do. if you are striving to be led by Him, you will pray constantly, prayers like 'is this what i should be doing right now Lord?', 'i'm not feeling well right now Lord; please remind me of what you've said about walking in divine health and fighting off the devil's attacks of sickness', 'Lord i don't have the money to pay for a car repair right now, but You said that if i seek You first, all things i need will be added to me - what do you want me to do about this?'

how do you know when it's time to pray again? when you realize that you are no longer mindful of Him and His promises of victory, life, health, peace, joy - for me that means i must strive to 'pray without ceasing' :)


I agree 100%. When I pray "God, thank You that You are here with me today, even if I don't feel You," I end up feeling closer to Him.
 
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So glad to hear that God took care of the situation for you. What a Mighty God we serve! He is not forgetful at all and knows the desires of our hearts, our wants, and our needs. Prayer is to bring us closer to him in relationship, it is communication, pure and simple. I pray that this worry about your prayers expiring will no longer trouble you! God bless you :)
 
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I think a prayer only expirea wennu atop believing or doubt God's help

That does not make sense. Do you really think God will refuse to help you if you are not absolutely sure he will? What biblical basis do you find to say that?
 
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That does not make sense. Do you really think God will refuse to help you if you are not absolutely sure he will? What biblical basis do you find to say that?
No where. That is why i said 'i think....' we areall here under his protection not because we are as faithful as we should be but because God is forgivable and our creater. God know what we want and need not because we pray but because He knows our hurt. I'm not saying we dont have to pray. Praying is one of the things expected from every Christians. It will get us close to God and strengthen our faith. But i still think the less we pray the less we r close to God. I'm nt saying he is not with us. He is with all of us. But are we with him? I think those who pray are closer to God than those who dont.
 
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No where. That is why i said 'i think....' we areall here under his protection not because we are as faithful as we should be but because God is forgivable and our creater. God know what we want and need not because we pray but because He knows our hurt. I'm not saying we dont have to pray. Praying is one of the things expected from every Christians. It will get us close to God and strengthen our faith. But i still think the less we pray the less we r close to God. I'm nt saying he is not with us. He is with all of us. But are we with him? I think those who pray are closer to God than those who dont.

Ah! That makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying! :)
 
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