when did God write the bible.....

[Pythons]

The God did not give to anybody the blueprint for Scripture.

The words themselves are from those who wrote the words, the inspiration to write the words came from God so while the Books of the Bible are from different times and different people, the Force that inspired those people was the same.

As far as a blueprint for a completed Canon, the Authority for determining what we ended up with rested with God acting through The Church, which Biblically is God's Religious Authority. It is for this reason I reject the Jewish Canon which was closed by the Jewish religious authority subsequent to all Authority being given to Jesus, who then delegated it to the Apostles.

 

[sentipente]

That's your belief but you have nothing to support it. Jesus never prophecied that His church would be given the name you now claim it has. Humans are making rather strong claims for which they have no support.

 

[Pythons]

The word "Catholic" means "universal", "One", "Pertaining to the whole Christian Body".

Greek = "Katholikos"

Middle English = "Catholik"

Old French = "Catholique"

Latin = "Catholicus"

You could ask anyone in any country "where" the Catholic Church in that area is and a Baptist, Mormon, SDA or even Greek Orthodox would not dare point in the direction of their church.

 

[sentipente]

The word "Catholic" means "universal", "One", "Pertaining to the whole Christian Body".

Greek = "Katholikos"

Middle English = "Catholik"

Old French = "Catholique"

Latin = "Catholicus"

You could ask anyone in any country "where" the Catholic Church in that area is and a Baptist, Mormon, SDA or even Greek Orthodox would not dare point in the direction of their church.

Is there any other church with that word in their name? What is your point here?

 

[Pythons]

It's a self evident truth that the Catholic Church "is" the Catholic Church. There are no other contenders for the name.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Right, but that proves nothing. You could ask where bes the local Baptist church and no Catholic, JW, Mormon, Lutheran, or SDA would point to their own church either. It has nothing to do with "dare" and everything to do with accuracy. They would not point to their churches if someone asked where to find the local Jewish delicatessen, either.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

A person once asked, "When did God write the bible?"

that is a good question... one I had never thought about.... if (big if) angels are recording the deeds of people in "books" to be reviewed later, and obviously there is a heavenly library because there have been over 6 billion humans who have lived, then why didn't the God who commissioned all of this book writing, take a day out of his schedule and write a book and hand deliver it to the humans he created? There would have been less confusion....

thoughts?

They claim the Qur'an bes written by God for this purpose....

 

[DeanM]

Just a note about the "catholic" question. The word as contained in the Nicene creed is generally accepted to mean "universal." Even CF points this out from time to time.

The Roman Catholic Church is often referred to as "catholic" for short. So, the misunderstanding of any locals pointing to any church would largely be based on the more common use of the word. Think of it like somebody asking how many horses are under you hood.

I was raised Episcopal, which is referred to as "old catholic." But, I have to be honest; if somebody asks my if I'm a Catholic, I say that I'm not.

And my answer is based not in fact, but on my presupposition that the asker will probably not know the distinctions of the word "catholic."

Modern usage and proper usage can often make things seem a little weird . . .

 

[Pythons]

Just a note about the "catholic" question. The word as contained in the Nicene creed is generally accepted to mean "universal." Even CF points this out from time to time.

The Roman Catholic Church is often referred to as "catholic" for short. So, the misunderstanding of any locals pointing to any church would largely be based on the more common use of the word. Think of it like somebody asking how many horses are under you hood.

I was raised Episcopal, which is referred to as "old catholic." But, I have to be honest; if somebody asks my if I'm a Catholic, I say that I'm not.

And my answer is based not in fact, but on my presupposition that the asker will probably not know the distinctions of the word "catholic."

Modern usage and proper usage can often make things seem a little weird . . .

That became true after the Reformation. The "Roman" in Roman Catholic was unknown prior to Luther. Roman Catholic is a Protestant creation.

BTW, are you still in the Episcopal Church Dean?

 

[JonMiller]

The Bible is a God + human coproject. Which is important, as it is about human's interaction with God.

JM

 

[sentipente]

It's a self evident truth that the Catholic Church "is" the Catholic Church. There are no other contenders for the name.

You sound like those who claim the Church of God is God's own church. A name is just a name.

 

[Pythons]

The Name is generic, it's the meaning of the name that any church would love to have.

 

[JohnT]

The Bible is a God + human coproject. Which is important, as it is about human's interaction with God. JM

How does Holy Spirit fit into your definition?

It also seems at odds with Scripture.

2 Peter 1: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What works for prophecy must also pertain to the rest of Scripture, don't you agree?