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It was formerly defined by Christians however the disciples properly knew that Jesus Christ had both divine and human aspects.Our problem is with Israel and not Jews. Have you not seen Jews who don't live in Israel especially Jews in america hold so many protests and burn Israeli flags.
What you believe about Gods 2 natures is only a christian doctrine and no one ever believed that about God!
What about Jews?It was formerly defined by Christians however the disciples properly knew that Jesus Christ had both divine and human aspects.
Of course Jews is Israel. Jews always flourished under Islamic state. That's what Jews acknowledge too and genocide of Jews too by the religion of love ie Christianity. We can argue whats the truth but we can't dispute what Jews say.Muslims know what is happening in the world and even though Muslims might be killed its part of greater plan of God of the return of Mahdi and Jesus. Allah already said about the return of Jews at the end of times.
"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]
Many things that our prophet has said has come to pass already about end times and we have no doubt Jesus will return and kill the Antichrist of the Jews انشاء الله
This is what you said, you didn’t say Israel you said Jews, it doesn’t matter if some Jews don’t like Israel or they do, Israel is a state where all people coexist not like apartheid Islamic countries.
Jews reject it because it refers to Jesus simply because they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah. The first Christians were also Jews.What about Jews?
So then you admit you hate Jews just as you hate Israel and when the Muslims murdered Jews in Granada in 1066 that was what you would call flourished?Of course Jews is Israel. Jews always flourished under Islamic state. That's what Jews acknowledge too and genocide of Jews too by the religion of love ie Christianity. We can argue whats the truth but we can't dispute what Jews say.
A Jew disagrees with Christianity.What's your view on this video by a Jew!
See what happened. See from 35:00So then you admit you hate Jews just as you hate Israel and when the Muslims murdered Jews in Granada in 1066 that was what you would call flourished?
None of that is true,See what happened. See from 35:00
The cathedral of Córdoba was never a mosque it was always a Church since the beginning, it was a visigothic church called the Church of Saint Vincent that was desecrated and turned into an Islamic mosque after the barbaric invasion of Spain at the hands of the Muslims. Islamic science excelled in Spain not because of the Quran or sunnah, but because of the translation of Greek, Roman, and Persian books into Arabic. The Muslims of Spain allowed religious dialogue, but on their terms and the terms of the Jizyah tax.See what happened. See from 35:00
Lol. You are denying everything just because it all goes against Christianity. These are historians and who are you? Are you historian too?None of that is true,
The cathedral of Córdoba was never a mosque it was always a Church since the beginning, it was a visigothic church called the Church of Saint Vincent that was desecrated and turned into an Islamic mosque after the barbaric invasion of Spain at the hands of the Muslims. Islamic science excelled in Spain not because of the Quran or sunnah, but because of the translation of Greek, Roman, and Persian books into Arabic. The Muslims of Spain allowed religious dialogue, but on their terms and the terms of the Jizyah tax.
S just being historians makes them right? The historians are not quoting ancient sources or Islamic scripture they are talking mainly of their feelings on the Islamic rule of Spain. It doesn’t go against Christianity if I say the barbaric Islamic occupation of Spain for centuries was a good thing, well technically it would be a violation of Christianity since my book tells me thou shall not lie.Lol. You are denying everything just because it all goes against Christianity. These are historians and who are you? Are you historian too?
A Jew disagrees with Christianity.
My view is: So? What else is new?
First you quote history and when it's proven wrong you deny history. You gotta try some new tactics. You are using the same logic as Jesus being man and God at the same time or the logic of square circle. I already said I deny it so try a more logical approachS just being historians makes them right? The historians are not quoting ancient sources or Islamic scripture they are talking mainly of their feelings on the Islamic rule of Spain. It doesn’t go against Christianity if I say the barbaric Islamic occupation of Spain for centuries was a good thing, well technically it would be a violation of Christianity since my book tells me thou shall not lie.
So can you prove to me that muslims didn’t slaughter Jews in Granada in 1066 or that the Grand Mosque of Córdoba wasn’t previously a Church called the Church of Saint Vincent, or can you prove Muslims did not treat the non Muslims in their empire like second class citizens while enforcing Jizyah on them. Deny it all you want however you can’t wipe a fact away.First you quote history and when it's proven wrong you deny history. You gotta try some new tactics. You are using the same logic as Jesus being man and God at the same time or the logic of square circle. I already said I deny it so try a more logical approach
Exactly. The Christianity tries to overlap Judaism and when it continually fails, it tells us that we're wrong. A simple lack of understanding that what Jews and Christians practice are two different religions. Perhaps the greatest source of sorrow is the fact that Judaism is perfectly sound all by itself, while Christianity needs our Scriptures and their validation of the Christian text to arrive at its own "truth". Problem is, if we reject that interpretation someone must be in error. Thus the circle is complete. Oh how I wish for Jesus to had been born in Greece or Spain. It would have saved the all concerned a lot of grief.A Jew disagrees with Christianity.
My view is: So? What else is new?
Quite the opposite really it’s the Jews who need Jesus, without Christianity Judaism remains an incomplete religion with no purpose. Christians don’t need Jewish scripture to prove their point, it is actually Jews who have challenged Christians to do so. Jesus wasn’t born in Greece or Spain he was born of Israel because salvation would come from the Jews.Exactly. The Christianity tries to overlap Judaism and when it continually fails, it tells us that we're wrong. A simple lack of understanding that what Jews and Christians practice are two different religions. Perhaps the greatest source of sorrow is the fact that Judaism is perfectly sound all by itself, while Christianity needs our Scriptures and their validation of the Christian text to arrive at its own "truth". Problem is, if we reject that interpretation someone must be in error. Thus the circle is complete. Oh how I wish for Jesus to had been born in Greece or Spain. It would have saved the all concerned a lot of grief.
We neither challange nor care about the Christian position on Judaism. Complete, incomplete- it's an opinion from a different religion as valid as an opinion from a Shinto priest.Quite the opposite really it’s the Jews who need Jesus, without Christianity Judaism remains an incomplete religion with no purpose. Christians don’t need Jewish scripture to prove their point, it is actually Jews who have challenged Christians to do so. Jesus wasn’t born in Greece or Spain he was born of Israel because salvation would come from the Jews.
The new testament actually opposes the OT in so many ways. Christians do acknowledge OT to be word of God but when it does against them, then they say its the old law which we are not under! I don't know how God was One and not a man under Jewish law and changed his nature under the new law!We neither challange nor care about the Christian position on Judaism. Complete, incomplete- it's an opinion from a different religion as valid as an opinion from a Shinto priest.
I totally agree that trinitarian Christians are committing idolatry, not by praying to Jesus, but by exalting him to be the "one true God" contrary to his own words in John 17:3. "Oneness" Christians are committing idolatry as well. I also agree that Muslims are not committing idolatry since they are pure monotheists (unless the "Allah" they worship is not Almighty YHWH). While I consider Singer to be a dangerous anti-missionary, he is correct about Christian idolatry. Of course, Christians play also sorts of word games to support the trinity doctrine and they have trouble with math (1+1=2, not 1), but here is the deal Godistruth1;
If your belief in the trinity makes the Son in any way, shape, or form "the only true God", then I disagree. He is the SON of the only true God (John 17:3).Am I invisible on here? No one seems interested in agreeing or disagreeing with me on my idea about the trinity.
"son of" can mean "in the nature of" as it says we are also "sons of God" e.g. Galatians 3:26If your belief in the trinity makes the Son in any way, shape, or form "the only true God", then I disagree. He is the SON of the only true God (John 17:3).
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