Whats wrong with Mozart (etc.)?

[GrowingSmaller]

I am not the biggest fan of Mozart, as although his music is fantastically talented, is often seems to have the same bright ebullient character.

Also the same for Vivaldi, his music is brilliant, but it often seems to have that same lively and embellished style.

So for both of these composers, insofar a music helps to explore mood, they only map out a certain limited domain. They might be like musical prozac, but not everyone is in such need.

What do you dislike about this or that classical composer? If you could, link to a particular tune on Youtube so that I might hear what you mean.

 

[rsduncan]

I like classical music that has grandeur or serenity and beauty, depending on my mood.

Therefore for grandeur I gravitate towards Mahler and J. S. Bach and for serenity and beauty my favorite is Alan Hovhaness...

 

[Beechwell]

Yes, I have the same issues with Mozart and Vivaldi. Even with Bach. Yes, there is great artistry, but I fail to feel any real emotional connection to the music. To me it seems rather airy and light-hearted, and I miss the passion that I feel with Schubert, Mahler or Stravinsky. Maybe the music is too nice for my taste, even Mozart's Requiem.

On the other hand I can't stand Bruckner, because his work seems too overladen and heavy. And I like Wagner less than one would think, based on my obsession with emotion in music.

Also I don't really get a connection to modern overly intellectual (my opinion) approaches to music, like Schönberg, and even the late Stravinsky. Or minimalistic music a la Cage. I do kind of like Ligeti though, even though I wouldn't listen to him regularly.

 

[jayem]

Yes, I have the same issues with Mozart and Vivaldi. Even with Bach. Yes, there is great artistry, but I fail to feel any real emotional connection to the music. To me it seems rather airy and light-hearted, and I miss the passion that I feel with Schubert, Mahler or Stravinsky. Maybe the music is too nice for my taste, even Mozart's Requiem.

Mozart may not plumb the emotional depths to Beethoven's degree, but some of the later works come pretty close. I think the 20th Piano Concerto has Mozart's characteristic sublimity, but approaches Beethoven in drama and intensity.


YouTube - ‪Mozart - Piano concerto No. 20 KV 466 in D minor - I) Allegro‬‏

 

[Coup]

mozart did not have any musical ability. He did not write anything. He was feed compositions from many, many other real composers in an effort to secularize music and create a musical idol. The music industry was born.

Google Robert Newman and Mozart. Happy reading :0

 

[ajarntham]

De Gustibus and all that, but... I think you might most clearly see the difference between Mozart on the one hand and Vivaldi or Rossini on the other in Mozart's slow movements (in the concertos and symphonies; I'd suggest the middle movement of the 23rd piano concerto as one example) and in the emotional climaxes of the operas (most famously Don Giovanni, but also The Magic Flute).

 

[Coup]

De Gustibus and all that, but... I think you might most clearly see the difference between Mozart on the one hand and Vivaldi or Rossini on the other in Mozart's slow movements (in the concertos and symphonies; I'd suggest the middle movement of the 23rd piano concerto as one example) and in the emotional climaxes of the operas (most famously Don Giovanni, but also The Magic Flute).

Do you not read ? Mozart is a myth. Good Robert Newman AND Mozart.


I think you, everyone, deserves to know the truth.

 

[Aja]

Who cares about what Robert Newman wrote? If he were trustworthy and, more important, busy scientist kinda guy, would he bother replying to comments about his person here ( www[dot]topix[dot]com/forum/music/classical/TKV7LQLQFV593LJKP ) or elsewhere? I doubt that. He'd rather do some research studies or something. How many serious scientists wear out the seat of their trousers, trying to prove something at forums at all? Nill to zero?..

 

[Manrico]

I think you should check out Mozart's operas. (especially Don Giovanni) most people think that Mozart is just pretty music, but his stage works show how poignant and vividly dramatic it can be.

 

[mariettedavina]

'The Marriage of Figaro' is my favourite Mozart opera

 

[Feileacan]

I don't see myself as a classical music 'expert' so to speak, but I did study Music for GCSE and A Level which enlightened me to this world of music which I may not have otherwise discovered, which I can now appreciate. I am a flutist and violinist.

I just find Mozart, dare I say it, a little too linear? And predictable. Sure he was very clever, but you just know how the music is going to go. Although, I do find his Symphony no. 41 (Jupiter symphony) spectacular having studied it in depth for A Level.

My favorite composer is Tchaikovsky, for reasons I can't really explain. You know when the music just clicks with you? Ever since I was young I'd been captivated by these tunes I'd heard in movies and on TV, and it was only since I began to study music that I found they were all composed by Tchaikovsky... and that was it! I was enamored!