Whats Wrong with Liberals anyway?

[JesusFreak4545]

<SPAN class=ip-normal-font>Why do liberals make everything so complicated?

Listening to the debate over going to war with Saddam Hussein reminds me of one of the big differences between a liberal and conservative mindset.
Conservatives tend to see things in terms of black and white. “Saddams an evil influence ; we’ve got to wipe him out.” Liberals have a typical habit of blurring the distinctions: “Wait a minute. Things in the Middle East is a snarled ball of yarn.”
According to this “over” simplified scheme of things, conservatives tend to go to war shooting and bombing when necessary. Liberals instead head for the United Nations, mindlessly jabbering for years on end and endlessly negotiating deliberately ambiguous treaties with dishonest tyrants.
We conservatives just aren’t sophisticated enough. We look at an election law in New Jersey that plainly says you can’t replace a candidate on the ballot within 51 days of the election. “No replacement possible,” we claim when our opponent drops out of the race; “he missed the deadline by more than two weeks. “To us it’s so black and white. “But you don’t understand!” Say liberals. “Its much more complicated than you know. We’ve got to take a great deal more into account. The law is old and unprepared for special situations! In an unusual case like this, we have to find out what voters really want!”
Conservatives think there are plainly just two sexes. Liberals wonder whether there may be three, four, or even more. “It will take a good bit of further observation and research to know for sure.”
Conservatives argue for a pretty swift execution of justice, including maybe even with convicted criminals. Liberals argue for endless appeals to discuss all the things that might have affected the criminal’s childhood.
Conservatives say divorce is bad, and that God says He hates it. Liberals say it depends on the circumstances, and that you will probably never fully understand all the difficult things that were going on, and that you will probably never know how much these people have suffered. (Lots of conservatives argue like liberals on this one)
Conservatives cheered but liberals rolled their eyes almost 20 years ago when Ronald Reagan spoke of the Soviet Union as an “evil empire”. And it’s why they do the same now when George W. Bush speaks about an “axis of evil”. Conservatives thrive under such blunt simplicity. Liberals groan in sophisticated disdain.
So in good conservative fashion, let me simplify by saying that the tendency to keep at least big things simple is rooted in the character of God Himself. God made the earth in six days. God called the light day, and the darkness He called Night. There was a tree of life and a tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Adam and Eve could be in the garden or they could be thrown out. You were either on Noah’s arc or you drowned.
(JR) Liberals might put it… “God could mean millions of years when he says 6 days! God should have a different name for each shade of light and day! Why cant there be half-good and half-bad trees? Cant Adam live half way in the garden? How many arcs did Noah build?” and so on.

Conservatives – Let’s get to the point.

Liberals – Let’s make this to complicated for anyone to understand so we can delay even longer and make people think were there only hope!

(This article showed in WORLD magazine. I edited parts and clipped off some stuff so the look into liberal thinking wouldn’t confuse even the few liberals the Christian camp that may read this.)</SPAN>

 

[SUNSTONE]

You see you have to understand them.
The liberals are sensitive people, and are miss understood.
When they talk about not taking out Hu(in)sane and how its not are concern, what they really mean is, "were too lazy and scared to fight, please will a tree come and give me a hug"

 

[seebs]

Liberals make things complicated because things *ARE* complicated - which doesn't mean they're always right, but simple answers aren't always right either.

 

[Annabel Lee]

Originally posted by JesusFreak4545

(This article showed in WORLD magazine. I edited parts and clipped off some stuff so the look into liberal thinking wouldn’t confuse even the few liberals the Christian camp that may read this.)</SPAN>

While I appreciate your clipping and editing so as not to 'confuse' the liberals.... it's common courtesy to post the link to the article.

I won't comment until I can read the entire article.

 

[PastorFreud]

Read carefully.

Why do conservatives oversimplify everything?

Listening to the debate over going to war with Saddam Hussein reminds me of one of the big differences between a liberal and conservative mindset. Conservatives tend to see things in terms of my way or the highway. “Saddams an evil influence; we’ve got to wipe him out. We know he's evil because our president said so. So what if we made Saddam into the man he is today. He gets what he deserves for turning his back on us.” Liberals have a typical habit of using their brains for more than just accepting the latest propaganda: “Wait a minute. Things in the Middle East is a snarled ball of yarn. We should act, but do so wisely and carefully so we do not repeat history's worst tragedies.”

According to this “over” simplified scheme of things, conservatives tend to go to war shooting and bombing when diplomacy hasn't even been given a chance. Just kill them all and let God sort them out. Liberals instead make attempts to use diplomacy and engage the world community in solution finding.
Conservatives just don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. They at an election law in New Jersey that plainly says you can’t replace a candidate on the ballot within 51 days of the election. “No replacement possible,” they claim when our opponent drops out of the race; “he missed the deadline by more than two weeks. They know that they have broken similar rules in other states. To them the law only applies when it is to their own advantage. “But you don’t understand!” Say liberals. “Its much more complicated than you know. We’ve got to take a great deal more into account. The law is old and unprepared for special situations! In an unusual case like this, we have to find out what voters really want!” Conservatives only care what the voters want when it is to their political advantage.

Conservatives argue for execution of everyone who even seems to be guilty, regardless of mounting evidence that our justice system is flawed. Liberals argue for fair and humane treatment, which sometimes includes recognizing and treating mental illness. Conservatives try to pin on liberals the dishonest manipulations of greedly lawyers.

Conservatives say divorce is bad, yet they divorce at higher rates than any other group. They say God hates it, but they do it anyway. Liberals say it depends on the circumstances, and that you will probably never fully understand all the difficult things that were going on, and that you will probably never know how much these people have suffered. (Some conservatives are finally seeing the light on this.)

Conservatives cheered but liberals rolled their eyes almost 20 years ago when Ronald Reagan spoke of the Soviet Union as an “evil empire”. Conservatives are a bloodthirsty bunch. Now when George W. Bush speaks about an “axis of evil”, the bloodthirst is again clear. It seems the goal of world domination is a conservatives dream. Might makes right. Conservatives thrive under such blunt simplicity. Liberals groan in sophisticated disdain of the use of illegitimate power.

In good conservative fashion, they simplify by creating God in their own image. They say that the tendency to keep at least big things simple is rooted in the character of God Himself. They believe God made the earth in six days because the Bible says so, but never even realize what kind of literature they are reading. They say God called the light day, and the darkness He called Night. There was a tree of life and a tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Adam and Eve could be in the garden or they could be thrown out. You were either on Noah’s arc or you drowned.

Liberals are less concerned with these dichotomies and more concerned that Genesis is an affirmation of life. God created humanity and called it good. He created male and female in equality. The see the primary thrust of Scripture being the redemption of humankind, not the condemnation of humankind.

Conservatives say – Let’s get to the point, meaning let's get to my point and my point only.

Liberals say – Let’s understand the complexities of this situation so that we respond as mature people in ways that demonstrate the love and compassion of Christ!

Christ was a dirty hippie, a liberal Jew. He was killed by the ultra-conservative leaders of his day. Think about it.

Read more here: http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/religiousmenu.htm

 

[Annabel Lee]

Thanks PastorFreud

 

[seebs]

Good answer, Pastor Freud. I'm often considered fairly conservative (e.g., in favor of some wars), but I liked your approach to responding to this.

 

[caley]

On the confusing liberal jibba-jabba of liberals from someone who is as antiwar as I am:

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2002/tst101402.htm

 

[Susan]

While I am not a liberal, oversimplification is not always the best thing. Sometimes God's works and purposes are not simple enough for a human mind to totally understand.

I am not referring to salvation-He made that very simple for us to understand and recieve. He also made other things in the Bible very simple to know and understand (what is and is not sin, how He created the world, etc.)

However I am referring to things like disasters that kill sinner and saint alike, illnesses that seem to strike randomly, blessings being given to the reprobate as well as to the righteous, etc. These could be explained simply. . . "God wanted to kill those people so He sent a tornado," or conversely "The devil did it. These people didn't fight him."

However those simple explanations are shortsighted and do not account for other possibilities, such as God eventually using the tragedy for good, or the tragedy being the sad consequence of living in a fallen world, for example.

 

[cenimo]

What's wrong with liberals?

This.....

While they claim to demand tolerance, they exercise intolerance themselves. They claim to defend free speech, and then go crazy when Ann Coulter writes an article. That is just one example among thousands.

This was in an e-mail a friend received from a former girlfriend who is very liberal

"Don't send me things that offend me...anyone with half a brain would know..."

Get it? First she tells him not to offend her, then she accuses him of having half a brain...

and in that breif example is the liberal mindset

definition:

conservative - a liberal who has been mugged

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[Zorobabel]

I don't have the luxury of being conservative or liberal. I follow the teachings of Christ, and usually don't bother myself too much with politics. I find myself agreeing with liberals more on TV, because anybody who claims to be a Christian but has no reserves about sending hundreds of thousands of souls to Hell is scary to me.

 

[SUNSTONE]

Oliver Stone always put in his movies, "There are no atheists, in fox holes".

There is a time for war, and a time for peace. Ec 3

 

[PastorFreud]

Originally posted by cenimo
What's wrong with liberals?

This.....

While they claim to demand tolerance, they exercise intolerance themselves. They claim to defend free speech, and then go crazy when Ann Coulter writes an article. That is just one example among thousands.

This was in an e-mail a friend received from a former girlfriend who is very liberal

"Don't send me things that offend me...anyone with half a brain would know..."

Get it? First she tells him not to offend her, then she accuses him of having half a brain...

and in that breif example is the liberal mindset

definition:

conservative - a liberal who has been mugged

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This is grand!&nbsp; Pick on an easy target.&nbsp; The formal girlfriend does not represent all liberals any more than the KKK represents conservative Christians.

I'll say it again:

Jesus was a liberal Jew.&nbsp; He was killed by the ultra conservative leaders of his day.

 

[paulewog]

I basically (would/will) vote conservative/republican

Liberals (which most democrats are) seem to have a bity more problems being completely truthful and open as well as practicing what they preach.

Another example of non-tolerance: Christianity in schools....

I actually find it kinda revolting that the Bible, which this country was founded upon, essentially, is now almost forbidden completely in schools. And, if you take one in, you'll at BEST be ridiculed for it. That or sent to a psychologist to see what's wrong with you if you're bringing THAT book

(little sarcasm, but the point is in there, I hope you find it )

 

[PastorFreud]

Originally posted by SUNSTONE
Oliver Stone always put in his movies, "There are no atheists, in fox holes".

There is a time for war, and a time for peace. Ec 3

Hmm.... There are no atheists in fox holes?&nbsp;&nbsp;

Ok, you could be right.&nbsp; That would mean there&nbsp;are religious fanatics in the foxholes on one side trying to kill the religious fanatics in foxholes on the other side.&nbsp; How many wars were started over atheism?

 

[paulewog]

Jesus was not a liberal in today's terms, Mr. Freud

For one thing, he allowed his disciples to carry weapons.....

 

[PastorFreud]

Paulewog, you say:

Originally posted by paulewog

Liberals (which most democrats are) seem to have a bity more problems being completely truthful and open as well as practicing what they preach.&nbsp;

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Accusing liberals of lying.&nbsp; Then post this mistruth.

I actually find it kinda revolting that the Bible, which this country was founded upon, essentially, is now almost forbidden completely in schools. And, if you take one in, you'll at BEST be ridiculed for it. That or sent to a psychologist to see what's wrong with you if you're bringing THAT book &nbsp;
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They have eyes but do not see, ears but do not hear.

 

[PastorFreud]

Originally posted by paulewog
Jesus was not a liberal in today's terms, Mr. Freud

For one thing, he allowed his disciples to carry weapons.....

He was a liberal in his day.&nbsp; Want to distort history now?

 

[paulewog]

No, I was only saying that if you go around saying Jesus was a "liberal" today (I don't honestly know what you mean), you will be saying that he's for welfare, social security... basically, socialism.

I was not ONLY accusing liberals of lieing, either Please notice that I said they have a bit MORE trouble. I know quite well that some conservatives have had problems with that too. On the whole, however, I do think conservatives are a bit better at keeping their word.

As to the Bible thing - sorry, I should have clarified, that's not true everywhere. But it is out here, and in many schools.

If the Bible was not so scoffed at today, why is it EVERYONE complains about the 10 Commandments being hung on the wall? I think most people agree with the commandments themselves - idolatry, murder, adultery, etc... so why complain about it?

"Freedom of religion" is turning into "freedom from christianity."

 

[PastorFreud]

If the Bible was not so scoffed at today, why is it EVERYONE complains about the 10 Commandments being hung on the wall? I think most people agree with the commandments themselves - idolatry, murder, adultery, etc... so why complain about it? [/qoute]

Maybe because the primary people behind this movement are people with a theocratic political agenda?

I personally don't mind the 10 commandments being displayed anywhere. To me they represent an initial form of law making. The first five commandments are the ones that have more to do with religion than public order. (Although some would argue that honoring God leads to better public order, others might disagree.) But I wouldn't have a problem with other law related statues being displayed, like the one John Ashcroft wants to hide behind a curtain.

One Nation Under God ..... Afghanistan