What's wrong with Joe Biden?

[expos4ever]

Some posters here seem to think that bringing up the matter of Mr. Trump's fitness is a cheap trick, or 'whataboutism'.

The matter of Mr. Trump's competence certainly is relevant- as should be clear. The logic here is simple, clear, and irrefutable:

1. The issue of Mr. Biden's fitness to be President was raised;

2. The claim is made that Mr. Biden will be 'un-electable' if the voters deem him to be 'unfit' to serve.

3. It is obvious that finding a counterexample - a case of a person being elected despite seeming to be unfit - is a relevant contribution to this line of argument. How could it possibly not be relevant? If I say 'Mr. X cannot be elected because he has characteristic Y', even an 8-year old will know that if there is an historical example of a Mr. Z being elected despite having characteristic Y, this is directly relevant to the claim about Mr. X.

4. Mr. Trump is just such an example, or at least a strong case can be made to this effect.

People have to learn to take their lumps - you may not like that someone has brought in Mr. Trump, but you brought it on yourselves by connecting the elect-ability of Mr. Biden to matters of his 'fitness' to serve.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Some posters here seem to think that bringing up the matter of Mr. Trump's fitness is a cheap trick, or 'whataboutism'.

The matter of Mr. Trump's competence certainly is relevant- as should be clear. The logic here is simple, clear, and irrefutable:

1. The issue of Mr. Biden's fitness to be President was raised;

2. The claim is made that Mr. Biden will be 'un-electable' if the voters deem him to be 'unfit' to serve.

3. It is obvious that finding a counterexample - a case of a person being elected despite seeming to be unfit - is a relevant contribution to this line of argument. How could it possibly not be relevant? If I say 'Mr. X cannot be elected because he has characteristic Y', even an 8-year old will know that if there is an historical example of a Mr. Z being elected despite having characteristic Y, this is directly relevant to the claim about Mr. X.

4. Mr. Trump is just such an example, or at least a strong case can be made to this effect.

People have to learn to take their lumps - you may not like that someone has brought in Mr. Trump, but you brought it on yourselves by connecting the elect-ability of Mr. Biden to matters of his 'fitness' to serve.

I have asked politely so goodbye.....

 

[expos4ever]

I have asked politely so goodbye.....

Code for: I cannot refute the simple, clear logic presented in post 61.

 

[DaisyDay]

How does basic math turn the statement into nonsense? Veritas is proposing that the majority of non Christians in the US belong to the Democratic Party. Let us assume Veritas is correct on that. It would not preclude the majority of members of the Democratic Party from being Christians. Let us say there are 100 people in the US. Let us also say that of that 100, 20 are non Christians and 80 are Christians. Let us also say that 17 of the 20 non Christians are Democrats as well as 30 of the 80 Christians. This leaves us with the majority of non Christians (17nout of 20) being Democrats and the majority of Democrats ( 30 out of 57) being Christians. Basic math tells us that Veritas' statement in regard to majorities could very well be true and make perfect sense. Whether it is true or not I do not know but it cannot be dismissed on the basis of mathematics.

How about on the basis of common sense then? The claim is that Democrats are against the majority of themselves.

I don't think they're treated equally in the Dem party either. They don't mind discriminating against Christians only.

And a majority of NON-Christians are Dems, hence the animosity towards Christians.

 

[KCfromNC]

Here is the title of this thread:
What's wrong with Joe Biden?

Seems like the answer is "nothing that kept the incumbent from getting elected". Unless the argument is that Democratic voters are more discerning seems like there's not a lot of substance here.

 

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