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Paul says we have the mind of Christ (1 Corinthians 2:16).
Did Jesus ever have a mind that justified the idea that He could sin and be in God's favor? No.
Yet, that is what we see in Christinaity today and it is sad.
And what point would that be? Does your point line up with the truth of 1 John 2:3-4?
If so, I would like to hear your thoughts on how you interpret 1 John 2:3-4. But my guess is that such a thing is not going to happen.
Yes, it is sad. Sadder still are those who think holiness is an end in itself rather than just the avenue to joyful fellowship with the God of the universe. They have focused on the commands and lost sight of the Commander.
Go back and read my reply to you once again. Read exactly what I said. Then read again what aiki wrote in his posts. Then you will see what I said about you missing that he is saying what you are saying about keeping his commandments.
IOW, he is saying what you are saying, he just didn't say those words exactly.
You need to dial back your need to be right all the time. You miss key points in what people write.
If the roles were reversed, I would be wiling to explain to you what was going on. But you just want people to figure out what you mean by what little words you provide. In any event, you both appear to not be in agreement with 1 John 2:3-4. Hencei, why neither of you have provided an explanation on it so far.
Why do I have to explain what aiki already has explained? Can you not read it for yourself? There is another who is agreeing with aiki and saying that maybe you missed the forest for the trees.
I'm not sure what you mean by "the spirit." If you mean the Holy Spirit, I don't see anywhere in Scripture where we're told he "grows" within us. Do you?
Anyway, I totally agree that "feeding" on God's word is vital to a stable, healthy Christian life. Is it really, though, "the only thing that can help"? I know atheists who read the Bible quite a lot but they aren't helped spiritually at all by doing so...
Okay. So, how do synthesize Romans 10:17 with Romans 12:3?
Does God want from us our ignorant, sin-fouled, selfish, human love? Or, maybe, what He wants from us is His own, perfect, holy agape love shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit... (Romans 5:5; Galatians 5:22) What do you think?
Amen!
Thanks! Glad to be of help. That was my goal.
Yes, it is sad. Sadder still are those who think holiness is an end in itself rather than just the avenue to joyful fellowship with the God of the universe. They have focused on the commands and lost sight of the Commander.
Why are you not explaining anything and being all mysterious with your words?
Again, what is your view on 1 John 2:3-4?
Do you even know what it means?
@aiki I'm sorry for my part in maybe derailing this thread. I was just trying to help out and show BH that what you have said is the same thing, just with different words.
Do you obey out of fear, or Love...?“And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.” (1 John 3:3).
“But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.” (1 John 2:5-6).
Lol @Isilwen, bible hightlighter is just how he is, no need in correcting him, just let him be.
He is not saying the same thing. He thinks holiness is not the end goal. I have proven him wrong by quoting Ephesians 5:25 and Titus 2:14.
Yes, holy living cannot be attempted by human effort. Only God can help us to live holy. But his first post gives a wrong impression of how one can know God and yet not worry about obeying God. This is in direct contradiction to 1 John 2:3-4. His second post attempts to do damage control to the first post but they are not in agreement with the truth of the Bible.
I'm done trying to explain it to you.
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