Whats the difference?

[vedickings]

What the differences in the ideas about the nature of God in the world religions?

Im not talking about God's teachings, but God's existnce.

I would love to hear ya all.

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

The Abrahamaic religions postulate the existence of One Personal God, who exhibits anthropomorphic traits and evolved from a tribal deity. It is an exclusivist rather than an inclusivist conception, meaning that there is only ONE way to perceive this deity properly, and all others must therefore be false by default. A failure to do so results in bloodshed and disaster, for this deity craves attention and is easily angered when he doesn't receive his due.

Modern polytheists, on the other hand, most often picture their separate deities as facets of One Transcendent God that cannot be fully fathomed by the mind of Man. Their deities are not so much conceived of as real beings, but rather as archetypes and aspects of the One that help them to grasp the larger whole.

 

[Arthra]

Well my own belief is that the major revealed religions have a common source and that God is one.

In Hinduism there are also monotheistic tendencies and so it cannot I believe be so easily summarized or typed.

Buddhism I believe approaches the Ineffable in a more philosophic way by defining what the Ultimate is not..thus while it does not address God directly the appraoch is what is known as "via negativa".

In Judaism, Christianity and Islam God is one..the same God reveals through Prophets and Messengers...

While the accident of language implies a more masculine appearance of God ...God is neither male or female.

Even though God has historically been associated with certain tribes or people in ancient texts it does not actually mean the exclusivity of God. God is both universal and unknowable.

- Art

 

[MrGoodBytes]

All religions are united in their belief that every other religion is wrong.

 

[Myah]

All religions are united in their belief that every other religion is wrong.

Very untrue. Buddhism does not, Wicca does not, Hinduism (I believe) does not. As a matter of fact, there are religions who believe that it doesn't matter which path you take, all lead to spiritual enlightenment in the end.

 

[RealSorceror]

All religions are united in their belief that every other religion is wrong.

Actually, I believe that all religions hold some truth, but also that all religions are at least partially false (including mine).
The only "religion" I see as completely wrong is Scientology, but thats stretching the definition of religion.

 

[czach8]

All religions are united in their belief that every other religion is wrong.

In some instances yes, but not always true.

 

[kunabi]

Very untrue. Buddhism does not, Wicca does not, Hinduism (I believe) does not. As a matter of fact, there are religions who believe that it doesn't matter which path you take, all lead to spiritual enlightenment in the end.

Hinduism believes that as far as I know.

 

[czach8]

What the differences in the ideas about the nature of God in the world religions?

Im not talking about God's teachings, but God's existnce.

I would love to hear ya all.

Hello brother. The nature of God is very similar in all religions. All religions acknowledge that there is only 1 God who is the Creator. Here are examples.

1. Zoroastrianism is the sole belief in Ahura Mazda (the Creator). Just like Christianity, Zoroastrians are continually struggling against angra mainyu (Satan) and his evil schemes. Zoroaster is the central prophet who received a divine revelation that the Son of God would come down to earth and restore the Word. Zoroaster told the followers that a magnificent star would appear when the Son of God is born on earth.

In Matthew 2:1-2 says, “1After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi[a] from the east came to Jerusalem 2and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east[b] and have come to worship him."

Apparently the Magi were supposedly Zoroastrians.

2. Islam is the basic belief in Allah who is unseen and is the Creator of this world. Judaism and Christianity have deeply influenced the teachings of Islam.

Genesis 16:10 says regarding Ishmael, “The angel added, "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."

Genesis 17:20 says, “And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation”.

Genesis 21:13 says, “I will make the son of the maidservant into a nation also, because he is your offspring."

Isn’t quite ironic that the decendants of Ishmael are Muhammad and the rest of the Arab Muslims

3. Incas were absolute believers in the Viracocha (the Creator) and just like Zoroastrians and Christians, the Incas acknowledged the evil schemes of zupay (satan). Viracocha had direct interface with zupay and He allowed him to not only terrorize the Incas, but also those living in the entire earth.

Job 1:6-7 says, “One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan [b] also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."

Not only did Satan tempt the Jews, but he was also tempting the whole earth including the Incas who were fully aware of this.

4. It is true Greek Philosophy mentioned many gods, however there was 1 supreme God who they believed was the Creator of all things. His name was Zeus and He is symbolized by thunder. According to Plato, many Greeks had fabricated the gods of Olympus and simply gave Zeus non-fictional divine companions just like how Catholics worship saints. Socrates who believed in monotheism also said there was an unknown God who is the Creator of all things.

Psalm 18:30 says, “The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded”.

Acts 17:22-29 says, “22Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: "Men of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. 23For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD. Now what you worship as something unknown I am going to proclaim to you. 24"The God who created the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.' 29"Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by man's design and skill. 30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead."

It is amazing that even Paul acknowledged that the Greeks had an understanding of this unknown God who created all things.

5. Taoism also believes in the one God who created all things and He is the absolute ruler of the entire universe. The greatest goal for any Taoist is to reach Heaven which is God’s dwelling place. To them the Way of Heaven is the Way of God.

Deuteronomy 10:14 says, “To the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everything in it

If Taoist utterly desire to enter Heaven, then they share something in common with Christians who also desire to enter Heaven.

6. The ancient Egyptians very much believed in a Creator who created all things and who also gave living things the breath of His life. Amun is His name and He is most notably known for His spiritual breath.

Genesis 1:30 says, “And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food”.

There could only be one breath that gives life to all things, and it is God who gave His breath not only to the Jews but also the ancient Egyptians and all the people of the earth.

7. Shintoism mentions a Creator God who is known as the Izanagi (man who Invites). The title “Man who invites” refers to the Creation and how God invited souls to have life on earth. All living beings were privileged to have anything they wanted, but man’s increased evil turned into greed and the world was no more free.

Isaiah 55:1 says, “Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost.

If God invites all living things to His creation, then He invites not only the Jews and Christians to His Word, but He invites all the people to His Word at a different time and different place.

8. Now Buddhism believes in a Creator but unlike other religions Buddha taught his followers to look and see the enlightenment that is within themselves and once you see the divine written in your heart then you will truly understand the divine that is omnipresent in everything that is material and spiritual.

Psalm 40:8 says, “I desire to do your will, O my God; your law is within my heart."

When we are born in this world, the Word of God is already written in our hearts, and not only did the Jews understand this, but the Buddhists and other religions did as well.

9. It is well known that Hinduism believes in the Trinity as Bhrama is the Creator, Vishnu is the Preserver, and Shiva is the Destroyer. Any Hindu that believes in one of these three actually believes in all three as one because none can be separated.

Obviously there is no difference between the Hindu Trinity and Holy Trinity.

10. It is also known that Christianity believes in the Trinity as Yahweh is the Creator, the Son is the Preserver, and the Holy Spirit was mentioned as the Destroyer during the exodus.

Obviously there is no difference between the Hindu Trinity and Holy Trinity.

Again, I can go on and on comparing each religion with another religion, but the point is there is only 1 God who created and He is the Creator. That is the nature of God.

Peace and God bless all souls.

 

[Karma2Grace]

What the differences in the ideas about the nature of God in the world religions?

Im not talking about God's teachings, but God's existnce.

I would love to hear ya all.

Christian God is Love and Justice, He sent His Son to die for our sins
Most of the others gods were Love alone (So human can enjoy the 'liberal' life), You need to pay and pay and pay....infinity

 

[czach8]

Christian God is Love and Justice, He sent His Son to die for our sins
Most of the others gods were Love alone (So human can enjoy the 'liberal' life), You need to pay and pay and pay....infinity

If you say so my brother.

 

[vedickings]

Christian God is Love and Justice, He sent His Son to die for our sins
Most of the others gods were Love alone (So human can enjoy the 'liberal' life), You need to pay and pay and pay....infinity

I ask about God, not what God teach.

 

[vedickings]

Hello brother. The nature of God is very similar in all religions. All religions acknowledge that there is only 1 God who is the Creator. Here are examples.

1. Zoroastrianism is the sole belief in Ahura Mazda (the Creator). Just like Christianity, Zoroastrians are continually struggling against angra mainyu (Satan) and his evil schemes. Zoroaster is the central prophet who received a divine revelation that the Son of God would come down to earth and restore the Word. Zoroaster told the followers that a magnificent star would appear when the Son of God is born on earth.

In Matthew 2:1-2 says, “1After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi[a] from the east came to Jerusalem 2and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east[b] and have come to worship him."

Apparently the Magi were supposedly Zoroastrians.

2. Islam is the basic belief in Allah who is unseen and is the Creator of this world. Judaism and Christianity have deeply influenced the teachings of Islam.

Genesis 16:10 says regarding Ishmael, “The angel added, "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."

Genesis 17:20 says, “And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation”.

Genesis 21:13 says, “I will make the son of the maidservant into a nation also, because he is your offspring."

Isn’t quite ironic that the decendants of Ishmael are Muhammad and the rest of the Arab Muslims

3. Incas were absolute believers in the Viracocha (the Creator) and just like Zoroastrians and Christians, the Incas acknowledged the evil schemes of zupay (satan). Viracocha had direct interface with zupay and He allowed him to not only terrorize the Incas, but also those living in the entire earth.

Job 1:6-7 says, “One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan [b] also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."

Not only did Satan tempt the Jews, but he was also tempting the whole earth including the Incas who were fully aware of this.

4. It is true Greek Philosophy mentioned many gods, however there was 1 supreme God who they believed was the Creator of all things. His name was Zeus and He is symbolized by thunder. According to Plato, many Greeks had fabricated the gods of Olympus and simply gave Zeus non-fictional divine companions just like how Catholics worship saints. Socrates who believed in monotheism also said there was an unknown God who is the Creator of all things.

Psalm 18:30 says, “The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded”.

Acts 17:22-29 says, “22Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: "Men of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. 23For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD. Now what you worship as something unknown I am going to proclaim to you. 24"The God who created the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.' 29"Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by man's design and skill. 30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead."

It is amazing that even Paul acknowledged that the Greeks had an understanding of this unknown God who created all things.

5. Taoism also believes in the one God who created all things and He is the absolute ruler of the entire universe. The greatest goal for any Taoist is to reach Heaven which is God’s dwelling place. To them the Way of Heaven is the Way of God.

Deuteronomy 10:14 says, “To the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everything in it

If Taoist utterly desire to enter Heaven, then they share something in common with Christians who also desire to enter Heaven.

6. The ancient Egyptians very much believed in a Creator who created all things and who also gave living things the breath of His life. Amun is His name and He is most notably known for His spiritual breath.

Genesis 1:30 says, “And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food”.

There could only be one breath that gives life to all things, and it is God who gave His breath not only to the Jews but also the ancient Egyptians and all the people of the earth.

7. Shintoism mentions a Creator God who is known as the Izanagi (man who Invites). The title “Man who invites” refers to the Creation and how God invited souls to have life on earth. All living beings were privileged to have anything they wanted, but man’s increased evil turned into greed and the world was no more free.

Isaiah 55:1 says, “Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost.

If God invites all living things to His creation, then He invites not only the Jews and Christians to His Word, but He invites all the people to His Word at a different time and different place.

8. Now Buddhism believes in a Creator but unlike other religions Buddha taught his followers to look and see the enlightenment that is within themselves and once you see the divine written in your heart then you will truly understand the divine that is omnipresent in everything that is material and spiritual.

Psalm 40:8 says, “I desire to do your will, O my God; your law is within my heart."

When we are born in this world, the Word of God is already written in our hearts, and not only did the Jews understand this, but the Buddhists and other religions did as well.

9. It is well known that Hinduism believes in the Trinity as Bhrama is the Creator, Vishnu is the Preserver, and Shiva is the Destroyer. Any Hindu that believes in one of these three actually believes in all three as one because none can be separated.

Obviously there is no difference between the Hindu Trinity and Holy Trinity.

10. It is also known that Christianity believes in the Trinity as Yahweh is the Creator, the Son is the Preserver, and the Holy Spirit was mentioned as the Destroyer during the exodus.

Obviously there is no difference between the Hindu Trinity and Holy Trinity.

Again, I can go on and on comparing each religion with another religion, but the point is there is only 1 God who created and He is the Creator. That is the nature of God.

Peace and God bless all souls.

Wow thank you very interetering!

 

[BruceDLimber]

Hi!

The Baha'i Faith (like other Abrahamic religions) posits one God, All-loving and maximally Benevolent!

Best,

Bruce

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Very untrue. Buddhism does not, Wicca does not, Hinduism (I believe) does not. As a matter of fact, there are religions who believe that it doesn't matter which path you take, all lead to spiritual enlightenment in the end.

Well, if the Buddhists and Wiccans weren't so convinced about the truth of their religion, there wouldn't be any buddhists left, don't you think? After all, if every religion is at least partially correct, there is no need to follow Buddha.

 

[BruceDLimber]

Hi!

There's very little difference between this in the great religions, little as many people realize this. . . .

Best,

Bruce

 

[vajradhara]

Namaste all,

there is no creator, of any sort, within the Buddhist paradigm.

Buddha Dharma regards non-Dharma paths as valid spiritual refuges provided that they espouse a sound moral and ethical path. Our teachings indicate that sentient beings are of myriad capacities and, as such, each being requires a spiritual practice which is suited for them.

we do not take a "one size fits all" approach to religion.

metta,

~v

 

[Karma2Grace]

Namaste all,

there is no creator, of any sort, within the Buddhist paradigm.

Buddha Dharma regards non-Dharma paths as valid spiritual refuges provided that they espouse a sound moral and ethical path. Our teachings indicate that sentient beings are of myriad capacities and, as such, each being requires a spiritual practice which is suited for them.

we do not take a "one size fits all" approach to religion.

metta,

~v

Even Hindus don't believe a distinct creator from creation, czach8 where are you?

 

[czach8]

Even Hindus don't believe a distinct creator from creation, czach8 where are you?

What are you? Buddhism and Hinduism are two different religions? The previous post was talking about Buddhism, not Hinduism.


In any case, you never believe what other religions say, so now you are using this as a convenience to prove some point.

Anyway, according to the Pali Canons, Buddha never denied the existence of the Creator. You should take time to read my previous posts, and then make your analysis.

Peace.

 

[vajradhara]

Namaste czach,

thank you for the post.

Anyway, according to the Pali Canons, Buddha never denied the existence of the Creator. You should take time to read my previous posts, and then make your analysis.

Peace.

whilst this seems to be correct it actually is not.

(pasted from another post i've done on this topic)

Many modern commentators think that the reason the Buddha taught as he did was due to a lack of understanding of monotheism. they often have the, incorrect view, that the Sanatana Dharma is a polytheistic tradition when in actuality it is not. it is, in fact, monotheistic with a very interesting permutation. Muller has termed this "Henotheism" which means, essentially, that there is one God but that aspects of this being are manifest and given their own due, like Mercy, and Compassion et al.

the term "creator god" is rendered as issara-nimmana-vada Pali and it is this which we are discussing. a belief in a Creator deity is classified as a "wong view" of a morally destructive kind since they deny the consequences of karma and presume certain other wrong views, such as the existence of Atman and so forth.

the Buddha Shakyamuni explained the lack of a Creator Deity in many ways..along with the idea that Nibbana/Nirvana is not permenent either. these are both examples of "clinging to views" which directly impedes ones progress along the path.

here is a Sutta where the Buddha repudiates the prevailing Samhkya philosophical tradition of the time..

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipit....001.than.html

in the Digha Nikaya (the Long Discourses) 24 it is said like this:

"There are some ascetics and brahmins who declare as their doctrine
that all things began with the creation by a god, or Brahma."

And this god is characterized so:

"That Worshipful Brahma, the Great God, the Omnipotent, the
Omniscient, the Organizer, the Protection, the Creator, the Most
Perfect Ruler, the Designer and Orderer, the Father of All That Have Been and Shall Be, He by Whom we were created, He is permanent, Constant,
Eternal, Unchanging, and He will remain so for ever and ever."

"There is none other God but Thee, the Almighty, the Most Exalted,
the All-Powerful, the All-Wise".

*The notion of creator is rejected in terms of the Buddha in satirically retelling the creation story of the Brhadaranyaka Upanishad. This not "a discreet silence about the First Cause," it is not indifference. Though the Buddha's particular rejection is not a philosophical argument against a creator god, per se, it is rather a religious statement that is consistent with the underlying ontology of becoming that characterizes what the Buddha taught. What is clear, in the broader context, is that this rejection is not tied to a particular god-notion, but addresses the notion of a "single supernatural Being" from which "all things began," given that such a notion is invariably grounded in a radically different ontological basis than what the Buddha presents.

(*indebted to Bruce Burrill)

metta,

~v