What is the differences between Pentacostals and Charismatics?
Which church groups go under which names? eg..I think AoG is charismatic?
Which church groups go under which names? eg..I think AoG is charismatic?
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what's the difference?
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harmmony
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Hi
I recently asked the pastor at the church where I am attending a bible study (it is a Charasmatic Baptist Church) and he told me the following -
Pentecostals believe that speaking in tongues is THE sign of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Charasmatics believe that speaking in tongues is ONE of the signs of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
That sounded very reasonable to me and so I think that is probably true, by this defition I am a Charasmatic, but maybe someone who thinks of themselves as a Pentecostal might disgree with the definitions.
It's an excellent question and I will be very interested in the responses.
I recently asked the pastor at the church where I am attending a bible study (it is a Charasmatic Baptist Church) and he told me the following -
Pentecostals believe that speaking in tongues is THE sign of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Charasmatics believe that speaking in tongues is ONE of the signs of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
That sounded very reasonable to me and so I think that is probably true, by this defition I am a Charasmatic, but maybe someone who thinks of themselves as a Pentecostal might disgree with the definitions.
It's an excellent question and I will be very interested in the responses.
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I've wondered myself.
A/G thinks of itself as Pentecostal, which fits with the definition given by harmony.
I think a lot of people think of UPC when they hear 'pentecostsal' - Oneness, buns, no makeup.... I lived in Little Rock for a while, where there is a big UPC prescence, and would often get asked if I was 'pentecostal' simply because I have long hair. (???)
A lot of people think of the televangelists when they think of Charismatic - healing crusades, 'word of faith,' prosperity...
Don't know what the 'official' definition is though.
(by the way, even though I attend A/G, I personally don't agree that every HS baptised person will speak in tongues - just read 1 Cor 12).
A/G thinks of itself as Pentecostal, which fits with the definition given by harmony.
I think a lot of people think of UPC when they hear 'pentecostsal' - Oneness, buns, no makeup.... I lived in Little Rock for a while, where there is a big UPC prescence, and would often get asked if I was 'pentecostal' simply because I have long hair. (???)
A lot of people think of the televangelists when they think of Charismatic - healing crusades, 'word of faith,' prosperity...
Don't know what the 'official' definition is though.
(by the way, even though I attend A/G, I personally don't agree that every HS baptised person will speak in tongues - just read 1 Cor 12).
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harmmony
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For me the difference between receiving the Baptism in the Holy Spirit and receiving tongues as a result, is usually a matter of God's timing, so yes, I actually think all who receive it should probably speak in tongues (I'm talking about receiving a personal prayer language - that is the tongues spoken of in Acts 2:4 - not the Gift of Tongues used within the church for it's edification which goes with Interpretation which is what 1 Cor 12 speaks of), but a person who hasn't received that gift yet, is still baptised in the Holy Spirit. And so, speaking tongues itself is not necessarily the presiding evidence of the receiving of the Holy Spirit, so that's why I think of it as one of the signs and not the sign, as stated in the previous definition.
I often see the term - UPC - written in here, but I don't have a clue what it means, can sometone tell me? I think that we are fortunate here in Australia as there doesn't really seem to be as much separation amongst the churches and especially the Baptism in the Holy Spirit believing churches as there seems to be in the USA. It also seems that more extreme versions - eg- no makeup, strict dress codes etc. are in much less numbers and therefore I've never encountered one, and there's no stereotype, thankfully. Maybe it's because we are younger and less populated than the USA.
I often see the term - UPC - written in here, but I don't have a clue what it means, can sometone tell me? I think that we are fortunate here in Australia as there doesn't really seem to be as much separation amongst the churches and especially the Baptism in the Holy Spirit believing churches as there seems to be in the USA. It also seems that more extreme versions - eg- no makeup, strict dress codes etc. are in much less numbers and therefore I've never encountered one, and there's no stereotype, thankfully. Maybe it's because we are younger and less populated than the USA.
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Heinrich
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AFAIK the term charismatic is mainly used with churches which has less traditional P&W.
You even get RC charismatic churches.
And Usually when you call a church Pentecostal it means they believe in the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
But these words are very vague and mean almost the same.. Whatever the official definition it is usually not completely clear what is meant by charismatic, in most cases people talk about charismatic and don't have any idea what the baptism of the Holy Spirit thing is about
Who cares anyways about definitions it's really not that important
You even get RC charismatic churches.
And Usually when you call a church Pentecostal it means they believe in the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
But these words are very vague and mean almost the same.. Whatever the official definition it is usually not completely clear what is meant by charismatic, in most cases people talk about charismatic and don't have any idea what the baptism of the Holy Spirit thing is about
Who cares anyways about definitions
it's really not that important
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I believe it stands for United Pentecostal Church.harmmony said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please!
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Perceivence
Defend.
Pentecostals are Charismatic.
From my unprofessional perspective, it would appear that "Pentecostal" is the name of a Denomination (or group of) that are inherently Charismatic, while "Charismatic" is the adjective for all believers, churches or belief systems that believe that the Gifts of the Spirit are available and in operation today etc.
So, you can hear of a Charismatic Catholic and a Charismatic Lutheran. You can hear of a Charismatic Anglican Church and a Charismatic Non-Denominational Church. And you can hear a Pentecostal (person) and a Pentecostal (church).
I believe there's also a difference in the history.
As for the issue with the Speaking of Tongues being the only sign of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, I've heard of that being the difference, too...but I dunno.
From my unprofessional perspective, it would appear that "Pentecostal" is the name of a Denomination (or group of) that are inherently Charismatic, while "Charismatic" is the adjective for all believers, churches or belief systems that believe that the Gifts of the Spirit are available and in operation today etc.
So, you can hear of a Charismatic Catholic and a Charismatic Lutheran. You can hear of a Charismatic Anglican Church and a Charismatic Non-Denominational Church. And you can hear a Pentecostal (person) and a Pentecostal (church).
I believe there's also a difference in the history.
As for the issue with the Speaking of Tongues being the only sign of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, I've heard of that being the difference, too...but I dunno.
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In our geographical region I prefer not to be considered a Pentecostal because it generally referrs to those who handle snakes. I think there's a big difference in what is considered Pentecostal from one geographical location to another. That's why I prefer the term Full Gospel.
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