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This is my first post, and the first time I've actually opened up to anyone, so I'll try my best to be brief...

I've come to the point in my life where there is absolutely no sensible and logical reason for myself to continue living. I'm in my mid-thirties, in between jobs, and shamefully, I'm living at home with my parents due partially to financial reasons.

Right now, I am disgusted with myself and my situation and hate everything about my life, and the concept of life itself. I never, ever reach out for help or show my feelings, but I thought that since this might as well be the last time, I really have nothing to lose.
I used to be a positive individual. I used to love the prospect that life would change each year, sometimes for the better, but it never did. Gradually, it always got worst.

Now, I absolutely abhor life. I hate most people, and by most, I mean pretty much everyone and anyone I come in contact with. I have been used, abused and treated like garbage. And so, even the mere idea of conversing with someone longer than 5 minutes is too much to handle. I want to vomit.

I've completely cut myself off from society. I never go out, join clubs, socialize or even engage in any form of communication through social media sites. I'm a quiet observer. And I do not like what I see or hear.

I would have sought help through friends, but alas I have none here due to my years of extensive travel. In truth, I have never had the blessings of close friendships.

My passions and hobbies have gone by the wayside and I cannot muster the strength to actually show some kind of interest in anything. I had an exceptionally strong passion for film-making, which was the glue in my life which bonded my character, purpose and kept me inspired. I took a leap of faith, trusted in god, and some years back I tried hard to push through my creative work to international agencies but each time I failed miserably.

Currently, I live in a country which my parents brought me to as a child, and I absolutely can't stand being here. Never have, never will. I hate the culture, and have no intention of integrating anymore. It's isolated, retrograde and shows no promise of one day ever becoming a nation I would be proud to call home. Likewise, my homeland has become a disaster. A breeding ground for muslims and undesirables whose only wish is to dismantle its proud heritage and the country's general infrastructure.

I have a deep resentment for my parents, who have messed my life around persistently with their childish on-again off-again relationship, whereby I have to run around, console, and show genuine concern and invest myself physically and financially to support them through their approaching retirement. Recently, I wish I could say such generous and concerted gestures have been reciprocal, but alas that's not the case. I've become conditioned to their self-absorbed manner, and regrettably have resided to the fact that I don't even have my family to turn to. In truth, my parents have given up on me. I'm not the person they envisioned I would become. I'm nothing to be proud of.

I want to break away, but I have nowhere to go. I'm buying lottery tickets every week, building my hopes up, dreaming of a life where I could finally afford independence, dignity and self-respect. Of course, the dream ends when the national lottery increases again the next week. I've always been free-spirited at heart, and thus is the reason as to why I cannot take this anymore.

I don't enjoy being like this, but recently, I cannot stand the sight of myself in the mirror. I see myself getting older, looking more tired, depressed and angry. After all, I am a miserable failure with zero prospects. And physically, it's showing on my face and posture. I can't remember the last time where I actually genuinely laughed without partially faking it.

Weeks ago, I wrote a lengthy draft post for this site, pleading for any advice... I deleted it the next morning as I hated the sound of myself on paper. A whining, pathetic individual. But yet, there was no glaring solution to my problem. I am still trapped. Thus is why I am here again.

To sum it up, my draft described a pitiful expose on my stupid life. It detailed everything that went wrong since day one. My extremely short-term relationships, and years of loneliness and solitude. The fact that every date I've been on had gone miserably wrong, despite being up-beat, positive, courteous and showing genuine interest in their less than exceptional lives. Still, the morning after rejection phone texts came hastily after each date, all expressing the same desire to not meet again. Although, they assured me I was a nice person to talk with. Yeah, right. I've been single for many years, and its starting to take its toll on me. I realize now that because of my social stature and lack of accomplishments, I have become undesirable to the opposite sex. I cannot financially provide for a partner, and facilitate a lifestyle which pretty young things are being conditioned to expect from a prospective spouse. In truth, I am completely unnecessary and superfluous for their crusade for better homes and gardens, forbes monthly and the fortune 500 club.

Despite my efforts to progress in life, find a companion, friends, further my career, it's all gone belly up. I've wasted so much money on business ventures, travel, and needs, not wants. All to end up here, in the very place that I swore I would leave.

I genuinely feel that I'm cursed. My mother seems to agree, but that's the extent of her comforting and input. There's no encouragement from her. Just her usual pity-party, and moving the spotlight back onto her. After all, what advice could she possibly give to a mid-thirties burn-out who is just a hinderance to her. Yet, I'm conveniently necessary when her life goes sour.

Now, I'm an angry, bitter, extremely cynical and contentious individual who has completely given up on god, humanity, life and hope itself. I have lost my compassion, and am dangerously apathetical to all situations that continue to arise.

I used to believe that god had a plan for everyone, but now I know that's just nonsense, and a way to keep people in church so they keep tithing. After all, money makes the horse trot.
Not once can I really recall god ever answering my humble and desperate prayers. In retrospect, I can see its all been a sick and cruel joke perpetrated on the west to keep the masses in check lest they discover the hopelessness and randomness of life.

In truth, god does not answer prayers. If he does exist, we are just the excess of his creation. Little ants scurrying around which one can admire, but never really care about if we stood on them. The ones he does choose, live a life which has been planned only for his own needs. The rest mean nothing.

So, my questions:

1. Am I living under a generational curse?
2. Why should I bother getting up tomorrow morning, why not get it over with?

I thank you for your time. I rarely am afforded with even a modicum of attention or counselling, and just this once could use some earnest advice.

Thank you.
 

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Dear Friend,

When I was your age I also failed financially, went bankrupt and ended up living with my mom in my home town, the last place I wanted to be. I understand that stigma. I know what it is like to have a serious suicide plan, but I also know what it is like when that dark cloud lifts. So can you.

I can so relate to what you have said, and I want you to know that there is life after this phase you are in. The Lord is moving me out of it and He is also moving you, even though it does not feel like it. That's why you came here to a Christian site to ask for help. I am now employed in pleasant work, living in a different town in my own place, as a writer (my real work, though not my current job) have sold a couple of my articles and after an extended period of not being able to get the writing to come together, got my motivation back to complete some larger projects and trust God to guide me in getting them out into the world. But it didn't happen overnight, and it never could have happened without God.

The first thing I think that could benefit you is to allow yourself to remember that there is an enemy of your soul and mine who is a liar and has been lying to you about your God and your future. Please consider being open to your need for God. Just be willing to believe that like Job from the Bible, and many others, we all encounter times when life seems impossible, God seems distant (even though He isn't) and we feel doubt and hopelessness. I certainly did. But then be open to the fact that the doubt and hopelessness are a smoke screen set up by the enemy of your soul and mine to keep us from getting close to God, to drive us away from Him. The only way we can use our gifts the way they are meant to be used is to be closely guided by God, to believe He is for us. If the enemy can get us to believe God won't help us and doesn't care than we never step out into the abundant life God has for us. So the first thing I ask is that you be open to that God loves you, is for you and is making a way for you. I'm not even saying you need to fully buy in, yet, but just be open.

Then I think seeing a doctor could be helpful. I found that I may truly be one of those folks whose bodies does not produce enough serotonin, just like some bodies don't process insulin properly and others don't clot blood properly. What a low does of medication did for me was to get me to a place where I could move through the hurtful things in my life and toward the helpful things God was putting in front of me. When my brain chemicals were messed up I was not able to do this. If money is an issue, as it was with me at the time, call different clinics and ask if they know of any clinics or doctors that offer a rate scaled according to income. And there are ways of getting medications paid for based on income as well. I can give you this info in the future if you need it.

And next I would ask you to start fighting this. There is a Bible verse that says, "Do not trust in oppression." When we give in to the circumstances of our lives we are partnering with the things that are oppressing us, things which could be fueled by the enemy of our souls. We can't partner with the enemy, our past hurts or future fears. I realize you've been on the outs with God, but the reality is, the only way through and out of these circumstances is to fight and to fight in God's strength, to partner with Him, rather than against Him.

So I'm asking you to start doing that by listening to this teaching I'm posting and also to listen to this radio station often, if the country you are in will allow it to come through online where you can listen. Here's the radio link www.klove.com. These things will help get some truth into your mind, because the enemy has been lying to you.

And it would be great if you could find someone to talk to. Here is an online source where you can talk with a Christian spiritual counselor, www.groundwire.net. It's a place to start and maybe they can help you find a good pastor or counselor where you are.

I'd also like to share a very good principle I learned from Charles Stanley. He says that disappointments are inevitable, but discouragement is a choice. Disappointments happen but we don't have to stay stuck in the emotion of them. Pour it all out to Jesus. Tell Him even though He already knows, because it's about relationship with Him, and getting it our to Someone who cares will help you. Invite Him into all the hurt places in your heart, all your care, fears, hopes and dreams.

And finally, get lots of prayer. When I'm in extreme crisies of faith, I put myself on every prayer list I can find. CF has a prayer forum, you can put yourself on it every week. www.klove.com also has one. Call churches and ask them to put you on prayer lists and request they pray that you would know the truth and the truth would make you free. It's not right now about asking for things and circumstances as much as it is about truth, because the truth will indeed free you to walk into the right things and circumstances.

So here are the links. There's a lot of good teaching here, and I think I can tell from the way you write that you will catch on quickly and it will help you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFoULjoOP9M

Videos | Gateway Church

How Winners Think | Gateway Church

I suggest on this link doing the Foundations of Freedom series and then move into anything else you need. Freedom Classes | Gateway Church

I will be praying for you and I'm sure others who read your post will as well. Please come back and share with us. This is a helpful, healing place. We care.

Prayers,
a
 
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Thanks "a" for the reply.

I'm not chemically unbalanced. I'm just affected by my surroundings. I've come to a crossroad in my life where it's either jump or continue down the path to mediocrity and failure.

I appreciate the links you have given me. I might give it a go but I can't see what help a counsellor can give.

Like I said, I really am adversed to speaking with someone about god and his "plans". I don't believe in that kind of thing.

I just wanted to know how people actually get the courage to suck it up and continue their boring, monotonous existence.

Care to share your views?
 
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Thanks "a" for the reply.

I'm not chemically unbalanced. I'm just affected by my surroundings. I've come to a crossroad in my life where it's either jump or continue down the path to mediocrity and failure.

I appreciate the links you have given me. I might give it a go but I can't see what help a counsellor can give.

Like I said, I really am adversed to speaking with someone about god and his "plans". I don't believe in that kind of thing.

I just wanted to know how people actually get the courage to suck it up and continue their boring, monotonous existence.

Care to share your views?
 
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We are very much alike in many ways.

I am in my thirties, older than you, and I live with my parents due to financial reasons. It is embarrassing. It is hard to look people in the eyes in my town because of it. My life was once full of incredible promise and ability and opportunity, but that is all changed now. I am largely alone and I have failed at my creative career--I am simply not the combination of talented/focused that could make it flourish. I do not really try anymore, nor want--wanting leads to trying leads to failure leads to shame, right?

I am a loser-at least according to most people. If I thought that the next 30 years was going to be like that last 10-15 I would wish to not only cease to exist, but I would consider it better if I had never been born.

But I plug on, sometimes with some gusto.

Here are quite a few thoughts I have on your and my situation:

--there is a quiet dignity to living life on life's terms, rather than the terms you would have selected for yourself, embracing what is rather than what could or might have been.
--Also, there is a special joy in seeing things turn around, real change that goes on deep inside you--that no circumstance nor anyone else can take from you. I am seeing such changes. That gives me the hope that even when people don't react to me or I remain lonely or stuck, that I will become the person I was destined to become over a long-enough timeline. I will have a family, acquaintances, a few close friends, some vocation, if I just don't quit improving. And it will be more sweet than any victory that has become before it.
--love, laughter, meaning, contribution . . .these things require no status or earthly riches to pursue wholeheartedly. I will not allow anyone to say, even myself, that i am unable to pursue these things-even through repeated tears, like so many who have come before me. I am trying really hard to embrace the struggle of life that is fundamental to our existence as humans.
--think of all the great second "acts" in life. People rising from the ashes like Phoenix. Google "Buckmeister Fuller"--what can I do for the Universe, even so? I firmly believe that my continued and increased contribution to life will inevitably lead to a community/connection (which I so desperately desire), which leads to fulfillment.
-- Even most "great" men's lives were marred by failure. Such seems to be the bent of all but the most lucky lives. I am not a great man, nor will i probably ever be one. I take those failures and try to learn and grow and eventually I will have fewer failures, at least in that sphere.

--I don't see why you don't have prospects, you seem smart and aware. I am trying to find a trade to get ahead vocationally. Actually, I want to be bi-vocational--pursue a trade like technical writing (does not have to be blue-collar) and be "creative" on nights and weekends. Yes, it is going to be hard, but I am willing to work for it. After 30-40 years of following my passions, I might not be known outside my town or a small niche for my creative efforts-but I am ok with that. I can do something worthwhile and meaningful locally, and that is enough for me.
--I think that what you really want is not what you really want and/or need. My past dreams of some modicum of fame and fortune, recognition for creative talents and the people that come with that territory--I am kind of glad they did not come true, as they would suuuccck the most vital parts of me eventually--what is going on the inside, the things that would truly make my joyful. I have never heard of someone being inordinately recognized for their talent/becoming famous for their ability OR coming into a great deal of money . . . leading to any kind of real satisfaction, but I have heard of plenty of horror stories about people who had their dreams come true, only to find those dreams wanting.

--As far as spiritual things, You could be living under a curse, but that would take Christ in your life (and believing what he did for you/atonement) for you to break it. You are a perfect position to receive Christ and all his blessings--I know it sounds strange, but it is true, in my experience and the experience of millions of others. I don't think I would be alive still without his continuing, felt presence in my life.
 
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I have found that the only point to life is to be with God and anything that gets in the way, be it being positive or being negative, is just another demon in my way. I don't want to be chained down by anything. I want love. real, true, and everlasting love. or I want pure and absolute destruction. they are the same thing to me - God the consuming fire.
 
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I found that my life is about being reshaped by Christ! A life of faith in Jesus where God's love can work within me, and where His truth can go to work freely.

I found that this life is about letting go of the wrong that we find and clinging on to the right that we see in Christ as He is working it within us.

God's Kingdom is a Kingdom of the heart!:holy: Be in it!:angel:

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Hi dude,

I have experienced many things in my life, and I fit the mold of a looser. I was so mentally ill for years that I could not work, my own family called me crazy. When I finally overcame my illness people kept treating me like I was ill. I had broken relationship, after broken relationship with girls. I had jobs I hated. It got so bad for me I was going to commit suicide. I tried it once. But felt to stop. I was encouraged by a word of prophecy that I was given from a church. I started to confess that I had a future and a hope like I was told. Yet I kept failing at life. Sure I had some successes, but generally life was a torment. However now some years latter my life is great, I feel blessed, I have a great job, I am married, I have a son. God turned everything around for good. How do I know it was God? Well take my marriage as an example, God actually audibly spoke to me and told me who to marry, and it has worked out just brilliantly, my wife is a treasure, and a blessing from God.

God will help you too.

Greater plans has God for you
He will be with you in all you do
Rest at night, with a prayer of hope
He will help you to more than cope
He will your candle light
Give you fresh life this night
We all would like to have fame
Yet let God your heart to tame
Seek him first, and you will find
He will be with you all the time
 
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Hey Truthseeker,

I have a similar story, but I'm twice your age.

Consider this. Does our world obey God? No, not in America. God is sex or money, selfishness replaced Jesus. Or maybe sports replaced Jesus.

I'm disgusted with life too. But we don't live for God. Why should He bless us? And what would that mean, getting what you want, or helping someone else. All I've done is try to help others, and my life is not good.

I'm not picking on you. I'm looking for people to agree with me. If I won 100 million in Lotto, and I gave you 5 million, would you help others? If you will, and I win, I'll give you some.

I think your parents are my generation, and I worried about your generation 40 years ago. Did your parents leave America to be evangelists in a Muslim country, and assumed you would feel the same. But you don't. They forgot family comes first.

Have you read the Bible? You should. We may be on the eve of the end of the end times.

My PC is not working rigt. Neither is my body, because I had more to say.

Post back. Let's get a dialogue going.
 
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hey olderguy,

yeah, i see what you mean. the world has lost its moral compass. i believe i also have lost my compass.

when i was younger, i used to think life had some kind of purpose. but as i'm getting older, i can see there really isn't. even if one was blessed with all the trimmings in life, there really is nothing in life that has meaning.

i guess the most meaningful experiences are have having a loving family, and if you can't have that then being with good sincere friends... a rarity these days.

i have read the bible, and i believe we are living in the end times. but that goes back to my point again - what's it all about? if we're born to suffer, why be born at all.

enough about me...

what's your story olderguy?
 
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hey olderguy,

yeah, i see what you mean. the world has lost its moral compass. i believe i also have lost my compass.

when i was younger, i used to think life had some kind of purpose. but as i'm getting older, i can see there really isn't. even if one was blessed with all the trimmings in life, there really is nothing in life that has meaning.

i guess the most meaningful experiences are have having a loving family, and if you can't have that then being with good sincere friends... a rarity these days.

i have read the bible, and i believe we are living in the end times. but that goes back to my point again - what's it all about? if we're born to suffer, why be born at all.

enough about me...

what's your story olderguy?


Those of us who are born to suffer may one day realise how much O(o)neness we have had with God, for He also suffered the ills of this world on a daily basis.:amen:

One thing I learned about suffering and that is that suffering in lies is utter misery, but suffering with God gives us a noble character.:thumbsup:

The purpose of suffering in this world is to escape the misery of evil rule and to attain a noble character. Indeed suffering for good does away with sin because it is disgusted by it.

It is better to suffer this world than to rejoice in it.:hug:
 
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Truthseeker,

I'd like to do private messages with you, but since I'm also new here, I'm not sure how. This web site is supposed to send me an email when someone responds to my post, but it's not.

My story is your story. I couldn’t have said it better myself. I had lots of female friends, but 1 real GF in HS, and a few dates with other girls. But now in the last 13 years it's like God put a curse on me, and no one wants me around. It's uncanny. When you said a similar thing, I knew I had to try and get to be friends with you. I can probably answer some of your questions, but you won't like the answers.

God gives us all a purpose. But it's not always to be married and have kids. Not all of us. I wanted to be a clinical psychologist as a young man and almost made it. I didn't get the PhD because my parents were good people, but wackos. My father was mean to me. But he died when I was 23, and I wound up taking care of my mother. I have no siblings. I hated that my whole life, but now I believe that was 1 reason I was put here.

I also helped many people informally. I would have never helped them if I had gotten the PhD. Several people have said I saved their life. All I did was talk to them. But now I need someone to talk to me, and no one is doing it.

Saying the world lost it's moral compass is a good way to put it. I grew up expecting to marry a virgin who had no kids yet. By 18 I realized she probably wouldn't be a virgin. By 25 I realized she'd probably have other kids. By 53 I realized I'd never be married. Now I wait for death.

But every time I consider suicide, someone like you comes along. You need me to stay alive. But there are a lot of younger people on this board who want to kill themselves.

If we lived the way God tells us to live, via the Bible, there wouldn't be that many people looking to kill themselves.

I don't know how close we are to the end, that is the return of Jesus. He implied when He came back there would be little or no faith on the Earth. We have reached that point. People want to have faith, but they don't know how. In the USA most preachers are teaching the wrong things. So of course people don't know how to have faith. Nowadays preachers talk about Sports from the pulpit. When I became a Christian sports was considered a minor sin.

And we all but worship Movie stars. Most movies are about sin. Sex, violence, greed, extortion, etc.

I want to say 1 thing in favor of Catholicism. Here in the USA Protestants think once they accept Jesus they can sin all they want. But Catholics have to confess their sins to a priest, so they are motivated to sin less. That's a good thing. Because the problem in our world is sin.

Truthseeker, which country are you now in? You implied your parents left America as would-be evangelists when you were young, or not born yet.

I became an official Christian at 30, in 1982. I saw many of us who chose to follow Jesus. I also saw couples who assumed their kids would make the same choice. But when they went running off to other countries, I feared their kids wouldn't automatically accept Jesus. I personally always knew of Jesus, even as a Catholic. I chose to walk away from Catholicism at 18, and be without God for 10 years. Then at 27 or 28 I went in search of God. Or He called me. But in the past 13 years I've been all alone, and I doubt things. But then I meet you and maybe you need a man like me to answer your questions.

I hope you write back. If you can figure out how to send a PM that would be good.

I'd like your first name. Mine is John.
 
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Jeshu,

We all have to suffer. Suffering is one of the reasons we are here. But for some of us suffering seems to be the only reason we're here. That's not true, but it feels that way.

It's really rough, and scary, when you see the time of your life passing, and you don't have what most people do. I know because I went through the same thing.

Why do some of us have to suffer a LOT more than others?

I'm still working on that, but I think I know.
 
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