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MarinoMan said:That makes absolutly no sence what so ever. This whole thread is insulting the thousands who died needlessly at the hands of terrorists, who America is working so valiently to stop as we speak. The least you could do is show a little respect.
MarinoMan said:Four planes take off, four are taken over, four crash. Its not like three crashed and this huge 747 lands at some airport after being taken over and the government hushes everyone up, arrests the terrorist and makes the plane dissapear.
Bookofknowledge said:I advice you to discuss what I say with your friends before replying to me, I don't think you understand or even try to understand what I say here...example I said The citizens of any country in this world - you are asking me who are the non-citizens of this world.
Who are these people who aren't citizens of the world that you are comparing them to those who are?Bookofknowledge said:The citizens of any country in this world have more facilities then non-citizens
Oxy2Hydr0 said:Or Four planes take off, three continue on their path, one replaced by another or by something else which goes flying somewhere to be hidden while its dummy does the real job ?
Montalban said:Except they didn't continue on their path. Two are filmed crashing into the Two Towers. One's wreckage is strewn across a field.
From an emotional standpoint you make an excellent comment. However, not all of us are looking at it emotionally - ie. lets be critical.MarinoMan said:I cant believe some of you are buying into this concpiracy. Its not like Washington was like, "Hey we just watched terrorists fly planes into the WTC and kill thousands of innocent people, so lets go put some explosives in the pentagon, kill some government officials, and start a war on terrorism." That makes absolutly no sence what so ever. This whole thread is insulting the thousands who died needlessly at the hands of terrorists, who America is working so valiently to stop as we speak. The least you could do is show a little respect.
Four planes take off, four are taken over, four crash. Its not like three crashed and this huge 747 lands at some airport after being taken over and the government hushes everyone up, arrests the terrorist and makes the plane dissapear.
Oops, sorry. But then that sort of causes more problems for the cospiracy theorists such as yourself and BookofKnowledge.Oxy2Hydr0 said:
Ummm sorry you took me for granted on that. I meant their path to cause distruction
Indeed, and how did they manage to set it all up on the very same day? They either planned it for ages and it just happened to be on the same day that a real attack took place, or they did it in an ad hoc manner within hours of the first attack on New York - which remember people weren't sure WAS an attack - it could have been a very tragic accident.Kris_J said:From an emotional standpoint you make an excellent comment. However, not all of us are looking at it emotionally - ie. lets be critical.
I'm thinking even if the government didn't crash something into the pentagon to prod along the war in Iraq, the planes crashing into the towers would have been sufficient to bring us where we are now anyway. Why bother with a conspiracy?
Oxy2Hydr0 said:Or Four planes take off, three continue on their path, one replaced by another or by something else which goes flying somewhere to be hidden while its dummy does the real job ?
Montalban said:Yes, because you said...
Who are these people who aren't citizens of the world that you are comparing them to those who are?
Not just the terrorists, but the passengers.MarinoMan said:That make no sence again. Lets say the pentagon plane is replaced by a dummy plane. What do you do with the terrorists on the plane that kept going? Give them a get out of jail free card? And also, does it really make a differance what type of plane hit the pentagon...a terrorist still flew a plane into the pentagon and killed people. It shouln't matter the size or type. The equation still looks the same no matter the plane size. Terrorist-Plane-Pentagon-Death.
Its still possible. Lets say that the planes that hit the towers were the real deal - yet the US govt knew of it all along & just decided to piggy-back it by adding the pentagon to the list by their own doing to get public sympathy.Montalban said:Indeed, and how did they manage to set it all up on the very same day? They either planned it for ages and it just happened to be on the same day that a real attack took place, or they did it in an ad hoc manner within hours of the first attack on New York - which remember people weren't sure WAS an attack - it could have been a very tragic accident.
Montalban said:It's a really stupid conspiracy.
Montalban said:And that's another thing. Two jets strike early at New York, so they set up to fire on washington just by coincidence when the third plane is heading that way.
goodbye to rationality.
Montalban said:The CIA would have to have landed the real plane. Execute the passengers and crew, and hide the plane. They'd also have had to fake the pictures of the Muslim terrorists.
then where are the people who were on the plane that crashed into the pentagon? What about the testimonies of the survivors of that happening...meaning the people who worked there. So NOW are you going to tell us...that this is a huge conspiracy? That all the pentagon people who lost their lives and those on the crashed airplane gave them up willingly? Just to blame Islam?Bookofknowledge said:I disagree with you because that's what started war on terrorism and due to war on terrorism 100,000++ innocents have lost life and I am sure those who died in pentagon and world trade center didn't gave explicit permission to kill innocents and neither their family members. If what people are presenting is fake then present the real evidence instead of blindly believing that's fake and it's an insult to those who lost life.
Montalban said:Also, didn't Osama been-lying claim that all four attacks were his work?
Are you American born? I see you bearing an American flag. If you really think this country is capable of doing such a thing...why don't you go to Afganistan and live? Stop calling my country the beast!Oxy2Hydr0 said:I saw the film before it reached Western Public TV. It first Aired on Al-Jazerah which was about 1.5 hour long compared to your cut 30 sec version that aired on western TV. Osama said nothing that he directly had something to do with those incidents. He praised them no different from those in Egypt and in Japan etc etc that jumped in joy to see the beast waht appeared to be an attack. The US picked out couple of statements to and interpreted them in as a confession which are soo vague.
He did say however that more attacks on usa will continue until they stop supporting Israel. He said the attack was because of US aid to Israel. They edited this for you all to hear. As a matter of fact many people said this, I knew it what its was because of even before hearing Osama's tape.
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