"What you do to least of My brothers he does it to Me"

[Bluelion]

Jesus said those words. He showed that He is always with us and goes through all our trails with us.

With that thought in mind, Have you ever felt your self being treat a way by a Christian that you say to your self what would Jesus says. What do you do when so called Christian lie harass and slander you. My thought is they are not who they claim to be because not Child could do such things to Jesus. That said do you ever catch your self in anger responding to a brother or sister and think, what did I just do. Me I have lashed out against people when measured the way God taught to measure lack and I believe are not Christians. God for bid I ever lash out against a true brother or sister. I fear that but many people have no fear about how they treat others.

Jesus spoke of this people in the story of a man who could not pay his debt to the king so the king forgave him, as he was leaving the castle he came across his servant he owed him money and began to beat him because he could not pay. Then the king was so mad he through the man he had forgive in prison and reinstated his debt.

I guess one of two things is true, either we treat every one like we treat Jesus, which would be loving everyone and fulfilling the commandment or we better make pretty sure they are a child of satan, but the second does not seem right. So maybe it we should speak to them as Jesus? Your thoughts.

 

[USCGrad90]

Everday situations can be tough to deal with and I try to simply avoid conflict when it happens. About a week ago, I was getting into my car at my wife's workplace, where there was a woman standing on the passenger side next to her car. She was helping a child either get into or out of the vehicle. She was taking a long time and unaware that I was in the car waiting for her.

I was fully aware of her and started the car engine - prepared to wait for her to finish prior to moving the car. When I did - she went into a full on verbal rant about me - commenting about how I should have seen the child and so on.

It made me really mad - because I thought I was being considerate to her, but she chose to immediately tear into me. I held my tongue and peeled out of the parking lot - AFTER I knew she and the child were a distance away from me.

I called my wife and told here that the lady would likely come in and complain about me. If I saw her agin, I would likely try to apologize for any confusion - because I know my wife will see her again and have to deal with her.

I also find that a lot of retail and fast food workers tend to be rude and dismissive - which makes it hard to deal with them and feel compassion. I try to remember that they may be having a bad day or some unknown problem at home. They also may have dealt with ill mannered consumers that put them in a bad mood. I try to put myself in their situation and treat them nicely - even if they don't treat me the same way.

I kind of think this is what Christ did for us. He put himself in our situation to fully experience the things that we do. He likely felt heartache, anguish, sadness, and a full range of emotion and dealt with the same human interactions that we do. Yet He still had the compassion to be put on the cross to suffer and die for our sins.

If he can do all this - then I can at least try to treat others with kindness and respect - regardless of how I am treated. Sometimes I fail, but I still try to follow the example of Christ.

 

[Bluelion]

Everday situations can be tough to deal with and I try to simply avoid conflict when it happens. About a week ago, I was getting into my car at my wife's workplace, where there was a woman standing on the passenger side next to her car. She was helping a child either get into or out of the vehicle. She was taking a long time and unaware that I was in the car waiting for her.

I was fully aware of her and started the car engine - prepared to wait for her to finish prior to moving the car. When I did - she went into a full on verbal rant about me - commenting about how I should have seen the child and so on.

It made me really mad - because I thought I was being considerate to her, but she chose to immediately tear into me. I held my tongue and peeled out of the parking lot - AFTER I knew she and the child were a distance away from me.

I called my wife and told here that the lady would likely come in and complain about me. If I saw her agin, I would likely try to apologize for any confusion - because I know my wife will see her again and have to deal with her.

I also find that a lot of retail and fast food workers tend to be rude and dismissive - which makes it hard to deal with them and feel compassion. I try to remember that they may be having a bad day or some unknown problem at home. They also may have dealt with ill mannered consumers that put them in a bad mood. I try to put myself in their situation and treat them nicely - even if they don't treat me the same way.

I kind of think this is what Christ did for us. He put himself in our situation to fully experience the things that we do. He likely felt heartache, anguish, sadness, and a full range of emotion and dealt with the same human interactions that we do. Yet He still had the compassion to be put on the cross to suffer and die for our sins.

If he can do all this - then I can at least try to treat others with kindness and respect - regardless of how I am treated. Sometimes I fail, but I still try to follow the example of Christ.

Great post. I fully agree, and that is all I am really saying is we at least try. It is not easy, most the time it is very hard, but for Jesus I think we have to try.

 

[Shimshon]

Judged not least you be judged in like manner.

I used to believe those type of people were not of God. Then I looked at myself, and as you mentioned found myself wanting and lacking. It put a cement block in my mouth, a seering coal that burns. In other words God shut me up. How? I had a choice. Do that which I now knew was not good in the sight of Messiah, or say nothing back to them. Which turned out to be even harder! In the end I realize it's not between each other, it's not between me and them, it's between you and God. And every time we try to 'help' in such a manner we make a mockary of it all. God does not need the help. In fact I think it's detrimental not helpful at all. As you implied, we find ourselves being worse than those we think are doing bad.

Once we realize the message of love we have a witness that either praises us or condemns us. God praises us when we do what he commanded and love all no matter how they 'act' to us. And likewise, condemns us when we do to them as they do to us. When we have been taught and acknowledge this teaching our actions adjust accordingly. If not we are hypocrites ready to be burned in the fire again....

 

[Bluelion]

Judged not least you be judged in like manner.

I used to believe those type of people were not of God. Then I looked at myself, and as you mentioned found myself wanting and lacking. It put a cement block in my mouth, a seering coal that burns. In other words God shut me up. How? I had a choice. Do that which I now knew was not good in the sight of Messiah, or say nothing back to them. Which turned out to be even harder! In the end I realize it's not between each other, it's not between me and them, it's between you and God. And every time we try to 'help' in such a manner we make a mockary of it all. God does not need the help. In fact I think it's detrimental not helpful at all. As you implied, we find ourselves being worse than those we think are doing bad.

Once we realize the message of love we have a witness that either praises us or condemns us. God praises us when we do what he commanded and love all no matter how they 'act' to us. And likewise, condemns us when we do to them as they do to us. When we have been taught and acknowledge this teaching our actions adjust accordingly. If not we are hypocrites ready to be burned in the fire again....

I agree with you, except, God does not condemn those who are saved ever.

 

[kcmonseysr]

Judged not least you be judged in like manner.

I used to believe those type of people were not of God. Then I looked at myself, and as you mentioned found myself wanting and lacking. It put a cement block in my mouth, a seering coal that burns. In other words God shut me up. How? I had a choice. Do that which I now knew was not good in the sight of Messiah, or say nothing back to them. Which turned out to be even harder! In the end I realize it's not between each other, it's not between me and them, it's between you and God. And every time we try to 'help' in such a manner we make a mockary of it all. God does not need the help. In fact I think it's detrimental not helpful at all. As you implied, we find ourselves being worse than those we think are doing bad.

Once we realize the message of love we have a witness that either praises us or condemns us. God praises us when we do what he commanded and love all no matter how they 'act' to us. And likewise, condemns us when we do to them as they do to us. When we have been taught and acknowledge this teaching our actions adjust accordingly. If not we are hypocrites ready to be burned in the fire again....

I agree with you, except, God does not condemn those who are saved ever.

Hi Bluelion -

I think (suspect?), then, that you actually completely agree with Shimshon (as do I, myself) . Your exception seems to me to only be caused by your maybe picturing the word "condemn" in the sense of "rejection or even damnation"(?), while I see Shim's use of the word "condemn" in this context as the sense of a "rebuke, given in discipline".

And, trust me, I known from personal experience that God does rebuke those that are His .

It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline? Heb 12:7-8 NASB​

Blessings,

Ken

 

[now faith]

Blue you have to get out of God's way.
We are commanded to forgive those who are against us.
Paul taught overcome evil with good.
It is the Gospel Truth when you respond in like manner you hold God's will back.

If you respond to a fool like a fool,who can tell the difference.

Not saying your a fool,because I got in a bind of flesh myself last week.
I was absolutely right had all good reason to respond except God's will.

They pinned the whole circumstances on my son and me!!!
I looked foolish,if I would have put it under the blood it would have never happened.

 

[Bluelion]

Blue you have to get out of God's way.
We are commanded to forgive those who are against us.
Paul taught overcome evil with good.
It is the Gospel Truth when you respond in like manner you hold God's will back.

If you respond to a fool like a fool,who can tell the difference.

Not saying your a fool,because I got in a bind of flesh myself last week.
I was absolutely right had all good reason to respond except God's will.

They pinned the whole circumstances on my son and me!!!
I looked foolish,if I would have put it under the blood it would have never happened.

I think you have two ideas here brother. Do not repay evil with evil, but do good to those who do evil and forgiveness.

God has shown me and this was freeing that we are not required to forgive those who do not repent or seek our forgiveness, God does not blindly forgive, we must do what first, repent.

If we look what God tells us to do with our brother Math 18:15 NLT I will also post the KJV for you after the NLT.

15 “If another believer[d] sins against you,[e] go privately and point out the offense. If the other person listens and confesses it, you have won that person back. 16 But if you are unsuccessful, take one or two others with you and go back again, so that everything you say may be confirmed by two or three witnesses. 17 If the person still refuses to listen, take your case to the church. Then if he or she won’t accept the church’s decision, treat that person as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector.

KJV

15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

This is how we are to forgive our brothers and sister. Notice how the need of the guilty party to repent is highlighted. If he hears you if not go gather one or two to witness, then the church but if still he will not repent then treat him as an unbeliever.

If we are to treat our brother and sisters this way and they need to repent then so does a unbeliever. I know my heart has trouble forgiving people who blame me for the offense and admit no wrong doing. God tells us repent, will God forgive us if we tell him, I did not need your forgiveness? No. God would never ask us to do something He is not willing to do or doing HimSelf.

So that is our right, also at the end the blood of the saints cry out for justice.

Now Stephen prayed for those who murder him. He ask they not be charged and pleased God. No doubt he gave God something to say to satan that day. That is the Gold standard. but it is not wrong we wait for repentance. We should never punish any one, we are not the Judge, but we can bring it before God like the saints do at the end they cry out for justice.

God showed me this because my mom always use the bible for me to stick around and take her abuse. God said wait a min She says she does not need forgiveness, and you are not required to give it if she does not seek it. Jesus said give to all those who ask. This is what Jesus did, but he did not say give to every one you see, because we would die. we would not even be able to eat, but How did His disciples give, every one that was healed asked, They asked Jesus to be healed. He gave to everyone who asked. so if they don't ask to be forgiven are we required to forgive? Yes Jesus said forgive 7 times 70 but I think he was saying if they repent I think it even says that but not sure. We are to forgive as many times as they repent. Each and every time even if it is thousands of times a day, as long as they are trying by repenting we forgive.

doing Good to those who do evil to me is if some one yells at me I can speak softly, and bless them. If they hit me and are in need of money i could pull some money out and give it to them. and for me if they condemn me in their church i could pray for them. I would stop at donating to that church because I think the church needs to be stopped, but if i did no doubt they would welcome me into there church and God would be able to work in their hearts through me. This is the essences of doing good to those who do evil.

My mom blames me for everything that went wrong in her life, she has said I have always been a burden to her not a blessing, she tell me this every time we talk, it is abuse, but you know what every single time she called me and ask for help I have helped her. I can not say no because she asked and I have Jesus living in side me and I Love Him. Now she is my my worse enemy too, tied with my brother. They have tried a number of times to destroy my life, and I was homeless for 6 months because of them to which they took every thing I owned and sold it and split the money between them. They would destroy my life right now if they could, my brother has done major damage to my and my dad's relationship and soon i will not be able to speak with my dad any more, my brother does this because he wants his money. and Yet I help them when ever they ask. That is doing good to evil, but i don't forgive them because they admit no wrong doing, and I cry out to God for justice.

Do you see the truth in that?

Hope I did not offend brother, sometimes people think me in my writing i am angry or this or that but I am not, I am simple trying to show what God showed me that freed me.

edit to add: when I say if they do not ask for forgiveness I do not mean they have to say those words, but have to be in repentance. in other words sorry for it. This is the process of a changing heart.

 

[Emmy]

Dear Bluelion. In Matthew 22: 35-40: Jesus tells a Lawyer: " The first and great Commandment is: Love God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. The second is like it, love thy neighbour as thyself." Jesus also tells us: " On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." God is Love, and Love is very important to our Heavenly Father.
How do we do this? Every one we know and everyone we meet, friends or not friends, we always treat kindly and with friendly words. God will see our loving efforts, and God will approve and Bless us, we are also showing God that we Love God, BECAUSE WE FOLLOW GOD`S COMMANDMENTS.
Matthew 7: 7-10: tells us: " ask and ye shall receive," then we thank God and share all Love and Joy with our neighbour. We keep asking God for Love and Joy, then we thank God, and share all Love and Joy with our neighbour.
We might stumble and forget at times, but then we ask God to forgive us, and carry on Loving and Caring.
Love is a Christian`s great weapon, with love we will overcome all ill will and wrong behaviour. It might take a bit longer than harsh words, or accusations.
The Bible tells us: " Repent," and also " Be Born Again." We stop being selfish and unloving, and change gradually into loving and caring men and women. Jesus our Saviour will help and guide us: JESUS IS THE WAY.
God wants our Love, freely given and NO tags attached. Let us now seriously
change into: Loving God with all our beings, and loving our neighbour as we love ourselves. God can see our hearts and every thought we think. Life will be filled with Love and Joy, and we will have God`s Blessings daily.
I say this with love, Bluelion. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.