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Not at all. I would never be so disrespectful as to try and convert someone. Especially because I disbelieve that what I believe has more merit than what someone else believes. However, I am not averse to speaking about what I believe because I like to hear the sound of my own voice.
 
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At this point I can only recommend a dictionary. If you know something, it is truth. That's what "know" means. You can't know something false.

"Wisdom" does not mean "truth".
I agree with all4one, How could any human in let's say pure reason say that anything that has been established as fact, is nessaserily true? If you look at history many of the "facts" that where established have been discredited, thru furtherence in this knowlege. How far do you realy think we are. So in order for a person to truthfully say that they know something they would have to exaust every possable angle of the universe reflecting on that subject. This is impossable for us to do. I wouldn't suggest you rely on the dictionary to try to understand what he writes, If it says that knowlege is truth than you are relying on human intellect to guide your life. Christians do speak an alian language, We recive our guidence from the holy spirit of God.
Wisdom is to fear the Lord, which spiritualy is truth, in a worldly sence it's rubbish. Being a person who bases his understanding on what he sees, blinds his eyes to the truth of the spirit. If you are that person It is rubbish.
 
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thirsty said:
Homosexuality is a sin.
I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.

Being a non-Christian is a sin as well, but I don't see anywhere near the amount of hatred aimed at non-Christians as there is hatred reserved for homosexuals. I don't see Christians seeking to deny rights to non-Christians simply because they call them sinners.

It's time for you people to get off your high horses and stop pretending like you monopolize morality and perfection.
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.

Being a non-Christian is a sin as well, but I don't see anywhere near the amount of hatred aimed at non-Christians as there is hatred reserved for homosexuals. I don't see Christians seeking to deny rights to non-Christians simply because they call them sinners.

It's time for you people to get off your high horses and stop pretending like you monopolize morality and perfection.
What about the politcally correct hatred that you seem to pocess.
If sin is only a concept why does anger people?
 
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thirsty said:
What about the politcally correct hatred that you seem to pocess.
I possess no such hatred and I my reasoning isn't derived from political correctness.

If sin is only a concept why does anger people?
Because people use it as an excuse for hatred and legalized discrimination against a group of people.
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
I possess no such hatred and I my reasoning isn't derived from political correctness.


Because people use it as an excuse for hatred and legalized discrimination against a group of people.
What about legalized discrimanation against Christian beliefs? It is here in Canada now with the passing of Bill C-250.
Your perception that all Christians hate homosexuals and consider themselves of a higher moral group is a short sighted and uninformed view of Christianity.
I challenge you to read the words of Christ and find out wear it says to hate homosexuals and get back to me.
 
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thirsty said:
What about legalized discrimanation against Christian beliefs?
Red herring and exaggeration. That does not excuse legalized discrimination against gays.

Your perception that all Christians hate homosexuals and consider themselves of a higher moral group is a short sighted and uninformed view of Christianity.
That is an inaccurate representation of my perception.

I challenge you to read the words of Christ and find out wear it says to hate homosexuals and get back to me.
You should be telling your fellow Christians to do that, not me. I am already aware of what the Bible says; however punishment under Levitical law certainly would constitute as advocating hatred for homosexuals. I can also take a look at the fruits of Christianity and those who call themselves Christians while make hateful comments about homosexuals overtly or thinly veiled.
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
Red herring and exaggeration. That does not excuse legalized discrimination against gays.


That is an inaccurate representation of my perception.


You should be telling your fellow Christians to do that, not me. I am already aware of what the Bible says; however punishment under Levitical law certainly would constitute as advocating hatred for homosexuals. I can also take a look at the fruits of Christianity and those who call themselves Christians while make hateful comments about homosexuals overtly or thinly veiled.
Lavitical law? What about Romans 1:26?
 
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thirsty said:
Lavitical law? What about Romans 1:26?
It's funny how you keep distracting.

It doesn't appear to deal with people who are innately homosexual, however. Regardless, it's certainly not a message of love either. My other reference to Levitical law was accurate to my point.

In the end, the very fact that you posted what you did in the matter-of-factly way you did to something from 1.5 months ago was very telling as to your attitude of giving special weight to calling homosexuality a sin.

And I've already explained my point in my first reply to you, so if you can't deal with that, then I have nothing left to say.
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.

Being a non-Christian is a sin as well, but I don't see anywhere near the amount of hatred aimed at non-Christians as there is hatred reserved for homosexuals. I don't see Christians seeking to deny rights to non-Christians simply because they call them sinners.

It's time for you people to get off your high horses and stop pretending like you monopolize morality and perfection.

Amen to that.
 
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gimlisgrl said:
OK what annoys me most........there's a lot! lol but to narrow it down would be faulty christians. Christians who support things that are sinfull ie gay marriage, abortion, pornography etc.
Christians who complain about the world but will not do anything about it. Speak up, speak out, make changes.

excuse me? I support gay marriages, just beacuse I support basic human rights. i am not 'faulty'...i'm just open minded and fair. i don't rub my beliefs into a homosexual and say 'since MY religion says it's wrong, blah blah.' . how would you like it if people started rubbing their religion into you? hehe :thumbsup:
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
It's funny how you keep distracting.

It doesn't appear to deal with people who are innately homosexual, however. Regardless, it's certainly not a message of love either. My other reference to Levitical law was accurate to my point.

In the end, the very fact that you posted what you did in the matter-of-factly way you did to something from 1.5 months ago was very telling as to your attitude of giving special weight to calling homosexuality a sin.

And I've already explained my point in my first reply to you, so if you can't deal with that, then I have nothing left to say.

You have nothing left to say because your arguement has holds water like a leaking bucket.
People who try support homsexuality using scripture can never find anything in the Bible that says it is blessed by God. When you do let me know. It is always interesting to see how secualr society twist the word of God.
Homosexulaity is sin whether you or the world thinks otherwise. Unfortunatley many will not relaize this until it is too late.
 
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thirsty said:
Homosexulaity is sin whether you or the world thinks otherwise. Unfortunatley many will not relaize this until it is too late.

To you it may be a sin, because you are Christian. maybe it isn't a sin to other religions?

and too late for what?
 
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thirsty said:
You have nothing left to say because your arguement has holds water like a leaking bucket.
My argument is flawless, actually, which is why you keep distracting from it and twisting my words.

People who try support homsexuality using scripture can never find anything in the Bible that says it is blessed by God. When you do let me know.
It's not my argument that the Bible says homosexuality is "blessed by God" so this is the second time in this thread that you have misrepresented me.

It is always interesting to see how secualr society twist the word of God.
Secular society doesn't think what you claim is the "word of God" has any relevance to legislation in a secular country and doesn't think that flagrant hatred can be excused simply by hiding behind what you claim is the "word of God."

Homosexulaity is sin whether you or the world thinks otherwise. Unfortunatley many will not relaize this until it is too late.
Curiously enough we're back to the beginning, so I have nothing left to do but repeat what I said earlier:

I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.

Being a non-Christian is a sin as well, but I don't see anywhere near the amount of hatred aimed at non-Christians as there is hatred reserved for homosexuals. I don't see Christians seeking to deny rights to non-Christians simply because they call them sinners.

It's time for you people to get off your high horses and stop pretending like you monopolize morality and perfection.
 
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Mechanical Bliss said:
My argument is flawless, actually, which is why you keep distracting from it and twisting my words.

It's not my argument that the Bible says homosexuality is "blessed by God" so this is the second time in this thread that you have misrepresented me.

Secular society doesn't think what you claim is the "word of God" has any relevance to legislation in a secular country and doesn't think that flagrant hatred can be excused simply by hiding behind what you claim is the "word of God."

Curiously enough we're back to the beginning, so I have nothing left to do but repeat what I said earlier:

I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.

Being a non-Christian is a sin as well, but I don't see anywhere near the amount of hatred aimed at non-Christians as there is hatred reserved for homosexuals. I don't see Christians seeking to deny rights to non-Christians simply because they call them sinners.

It's time for you people to get off your high horses and stop pretending like you monopolize morality and perfection.
Your belief is secular and the Lord says that many would be handed over because of there beliefs.
 
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