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I agree with all4one, How could any human in let's say pure reason say that anything that has been established as fact, is nessaserily true? If you look at history many of the "facts" that where established have been discredited, thru furtherence in this knowlege. How far do you realy think we are. So in order for a person to truthfully say that they know something they would have to exaust every possable angle of the universe reflecting on that subject. This is impossable for us to do. I wouldn't suggest you rely on the dictionary to try to understand what he writes, If it says that knowlege is truth than you are relying on human intellect to guide your life. Christians do speak an alian language, We recive our guidence from the holy spirit of God.At this point I can only recommend a dictionary. If you know something, it is truth. That's what "know" means. You can't know something false.
"Wisdom" does not mean "truth".
Homosexuality is a sin.veggie said:Homosexuality is not an act, just like heterosexuality is not an act. Try again.
I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.thirsty said:Homosexuality is a sin.
What about the politcally correct hatred that you seem to pocess.Mechanical Bliss said:I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.
Being a non-Christian is a sin as well, but I don't see anywhere near the amount of hatred aimed at non-Christians as there is hatred reserved for homosexuals. I don't see Christians seeking to deny rights to non-Christians simply because they call them sinners.
It's time for you people to get off your high horses and stop pretending like you monopolize morality and perfection.
I possess no such hatred and I my reasoning isn't derived from political correctness.thirsty said:What about the politcally correct hatred that you seem to pocess.
Because people use it as an excuse for hatred and legalized discrimination against a group of people.If sin is only a concept why does anger people?
What about legalized discrimanation against Christian beliefs? It is here in Canada now with the passing of Bill C-250.Mechanical Bliss said:I possess no such hatred and I my reasoning isn't derived from political correctness.
Because people use it as an excuse for hatred and legalized discrimination against a group of people.
Red herring and exaggeration. That does not excuse legalized discrimination against gays.thirsty said:What about legalized discrimanation against Christian beliefs?
That is an inaccurate representation of my perception.Your perception that all Christians hate homosexuals and consider themselves of a higher moral group is a short sighted and uninformed view of Christianity.
You should be telling your fellow Christians to do that, not me. I am already aware of what the Bible says; however punishment under Levitical law certainly would constitute as advocating hatred for homosexuals. I can also take a look at the fruits of Christianity and those who call themselves Christians while make hateful comments about homosexuals overtly or thinly veiled.I challenge you to read the words of Christ and find out wear it says to hate homosexuals and get back to me.
Lavitical law? What about Romans 1:26?Mechanical Bliss said:Red herring and exaggeration. That does not excuse legalized discrimination against gays.
That is an inaccurate representation of my perception.
You should be telling your fellow Christians to do that, not me. I am already aware of what the Bible says; however punishment under Levitical law certainly would constitute as advocating hatred for homosexuals. I can also take a look at the fruits of Christianity and those who call themselves Christians while make hateful comments about homosexuals overtly or thinly veiled.
It's funny how you keep distracting.thirsty said:Lavitical law? What about Romans 1:26?
Mechanical Bliss said:I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.
Being a non-Christian is a sin as well, but I don't see anywhere near the amount of hatred aimed at non-Christians as there is hatred reserved for homosexuals. I don't see Christians seeking to deny rights to non-Christians simply because they call them sinners.
It's time for you people to get off your high horses and stop pretending like you monopolize morality and perfection.
gimlisgrl said:OK what annoys me most........there's a lot! lol but to narrow it down would be faulty christians. Christians who support things that are sinfull ie gay marriage, abortion, pornography etc.
Christians who complain about the world but will not do anything about it. Speak up, speak out, make changes.
Mechanical Bliss said:It's funny how you keep distracting.
It doesn't appear to deal with people who are innately homosexual, however. Regardless, it's certainly not a message of love either. My other reference to Levitical law was accurate to my point.
In the end, the very fact that you posted what you did in the matter-of-factly way you did to something from 1.5 months ago was very telling as to your attitude of giving special weight to calling homosexuality a sin.
And I've already explained my point in my first reply to you, so if you can't deal with that, then I have nothing left to say.
thirsty said:Homosexulaity is sin whether you or the world thinks otherwise. Unfortunatley many will not relaize this until it is too late.
My argument is flawless, actually, which is why you keep distracting from it and twisting my words.thirsty said:You have nothing left to say because your arguement has holds water like a leaking bucket.
It's not my argument that the Bible says homosexuality is "blessed by God" so this is the second time in this thread that you have misrepresented me.People who try support homsexuality using scripture can never find anything in the Bible that says it is blessed by God. When you do let me know.
Secular society doesn't think what you claim is the "word of God" has any relevance to legislation in a secular country and doesn't think that flagrant hatred can be excused simply by hiding behind what you claim is the "word of God."It is always interesting to see how secualr society twist the word of God.
Curiously enough we're back to the beginning, so I have nothing left to do but repeat what I said earlier:Homosexulaity is sin whether you or the world thinks otherwise. Unfortunatley many will not relaize this until it is too late.
Your belief is secular and the Lord says that many would be handed over because of there beliefs.Mechanical Bliss said:My argument is flawless, actually, which is why you keep distracting from it and twisting my words.
It's not my argument that the Bible says homosexuality is "blessed by God" so this is the second time in this thread that you have misrepresented me.
Secular society doesn't think what you claim is the "word of God" has any relevance to legislation in a secular country and doesn't think that flagrant hatred can be excused simply by hiding behind what you claim is the "word of God."
Curiously enough we're back to the beginning, so I have nothing left to do but repeat what I said earlier:
I could not care less. Sin is a religious concept with no basis in reality.
Being a non-Christian is a sin as well, but I don't see anywhere near the amount of hatred aimed at non-Christians as there is hatred reserved for homosexuals. I don't see Christians seeking to deny rights to non-Christians simply because they call them sinners.
It's time for you people to get off your high horses and stop pretending like you monopolize morality and perfection.