What you aren't being told about astronomy

[juvenissun]

Rabbits in pre-cambrian strata are "the wrong animal at the wrong time in the wrong place" if evolution is correct.

No rabbits (or any other mammal) in pre-cambrian strata is what we expect if evolution is correct.

And unsurprisingly, no mammal has ever been found in pre-cambrian strata.

You knew this, off course. You're just trolling again.

Why should a rabbit showed up at the Cambrian time?

 

[juvenissun]

Indeed. The evolution of dino's and humans support the evolution of dino's and humans. And there's more then enough evidence proving both. Yes, you read that right. I said "proving".

No. The evidences are extremely poor, both in quantity and quality.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So?

So, if evolution is wrong, we would not see animals that only exist in one time period appear in that time period and the strata linked to that time period. If evolution is wrong, we would see therapod dinosaurs exist with trilobites, we would see ancient humans exist with Jurassic dinosaurs.
How were you unable to understand that?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No. The evidences are extremely poor, both in quantity and quality.

You just saying it, doesn't mean it's true.

 

[juvenissun]

Yet, you feel you are in a position to tell millions of actual professional biologists, geneticists, etc that they have no clue what they are talking about and that they couldn't be more wrong if they tried.

Excuse me while I laugh my socks off.

I am not telling them anything. I simply question them and they can not answer.

 

[juvenissun]

You just saying it, doesn't mean it's true.

It is true. I know it at the first hand.

 

[[serious]]

The philosophy of biological evolution is unique though, in that, after having found something in the ground, it is given a label -- say Homo habilis (handy man).

Then, after being so labeled, it suddenly becomes a member of a race of Homo habilis.

Then, after this race suddenly appears on the books out of nowhere, it is assumed that you & I are the offspring of this race.

One lie on top of another lie on top of another ...

How is this different from Adam naming things in the Garden of Eden? He finds this thing in a tree and he labels it a lemur, suddenly it becomes a member of the species "lemur"? Why would either be an issue?

 

[juvenissun]

So, if evolution is wrong, we would not see animals that only exist in one time period appear in that time period and the strata linked to that time period. If evolution is wrong, we would see therapod dinosaurs exist with trilobites, we would see ancient humans exist with Jurassic dinosaurs.
How were you unable to understand that?

Why not?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

It is true. I know it at the first hand.

Yeah. You keep saying that, but you've not given ANY substance to support your claim.

 

[juvenissun]

Yeah. You keep saying that, but you've not given ANY substance to support your claim.

I said, that is your work.
You find one for me, and I can tell you where was it wrong.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Why not?

Because then we would not see descent via modification. We would simple creatures, like trilobites, existing with more complex lifeforms, like therapods.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I said, that is your work.

BULL-ROAR. So you're basically saying "You're wrong. Go find out why you're wrong."
YOU put forth the claim that the evidence for evolution is wrong. YOU support it.

 

[juvenissun]

BULL-ROAR. So you're basically saying "You're wrong. Go find out why you're wrong."
YOU put forth the claim that the evidence for evolution is wrong. YOU support it.

If you want to learn, it should be your burden, not mine.
If you don't want to learn, we can simply quit right now.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If you want to learn, it should be your burden, not mine.

You're obviously not a teacher then. If you want to teach us that evolution is wrong, you're supposed to start us on the way.
So show us. Show us just one little thing that shows evolution is wrong. Go on. I'm waiting.

 

[juvenissun]

Because then we would not see descent via modification. We would simple creatures, like trilobites, existing with more complex lifeforms, like therapods.

What if the creation took place in time sequence?

 

[juvenissun]

You're obviously not a teacher then. If you want to teach us that evolution is wrong, you're supposed to start us on the way.
So show us. Show us just one little thing that shows evolution is wrong. Go on. I'm waiting.

I am a teacher. But I do not teach students who do not want to learn.
And I am waiting for your homework.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What if the creation took place in time sequence?

But you'd have to show they were created. All of the evidence points towards the Earth's creatures evolving over time through descent via modification. Whether the original, first life-form was created or not is a whole other kettle of fish.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I am a teacher. But I do not teach students who do not want to learn.
And I am waiting for your homework.

SHOW US THE FREAKING EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS WRONG!!!
Some of us want to learn. But we cannot learn if the teacher just goes "All right, class. There is no lesson plan today. Just go learn. I'll expect your homework by the end of the week."

 

[juvenissun]

But you'd have to show they were created. All of the evidence points towards the Earth's creatures evolving over time through descent via modification. Whether the original, first life-form was created or not is a whole other kettle of fish.

Animals are created on DAY5, then on DAY 6. In each DAY, there must be hours and minutes.
Does that suggest animals are created in sequence?

OK, I violated your first rule. But in science, it is even MORE clear. Not everything popped up on the earth at the same time. So, what is wrong with the sequence?

 

[juvenissun]

SHOW US THE FREAKING EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS WRONG!!!
Some of us want to learn. But we cannot learn if the teacher just goes "All right, class. There is no lesson plan today. Just go learn. I'll expect your homework by the end of the week."

I told you I am not going to give you citations.