What would you lose if Christianity were not true?

Hammster said:

I’ll try a different way. How am I discovering that it’s not true?

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rockytopva said:

Had I not sensed the Holy Spirit I may have taken you up on it.

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InterestedAtheist said:

Who said anything about happiness being the point of life? Or about being happy all the time?
I just said that if you do leave Christianity you may find yourself happier for it.

happiness
noun
hap·pi·ness | \ ˈha-pē-nəs
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Definition of happiness
1a : a state of well-being and contentment : joy
b : a pleasurable or satisfying experience

That doesn't sound like a benefit to you, in any kind of way? Well, if not, I suspect most people would disagree with you.

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InterestedAtheist said:

Not important. It's a hypothetical. Just accept that, in this hypothetical situation, you came to a full realisation that there was no God.
If that happened - can you tell us what you would have lost?

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dzheremi said:

Who cares what most people disagree with? Most people aren't atheists wasting their time on messageboards about religion, either.

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InterestedAtheist said:

Maybe one day you'll come to a realisation that you were mistaken in thinking you sensed the Holy Spirit. Others have.
We all make mistakes, after all, and none of us are perfect.

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Hammster said:

Actually, it is important.

I’ll wait for the OP. He might have an answer to my questions.

@BigV

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rockytopva said:

When I sensed the Holy Spirit I was aware that I had sensed the same powers that went into the creation of this universe!

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InterestedAtheist said:

Dzheremi, are you interested in answering the question? If not, why are you "wasting your time on a messageboard"?
If you don't care about anyone here or anything they are saying, what are you here for?

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rockytopva said:

There is possibility of falling into the wrong church, which can make one miserable indeed. There is also possibility of falling in with the wrong bunch of atheist, which may leave you dead indeed!

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dzheremi said:

I could ask you the same thing.

And I already answered the question in my first reply. Socially, very little, and in the world where Christianity is not true that's pretty much the only thing that would matter or change, since obviously all the metaphysical claims made by Christianity about the source, fate, or reality of the soul would be out the window in that case (assuming some other religion wasn't right about that, which I highly doubt is the point an atheist would be making in this context).

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dogs4thewin said:

Maybe the OP is saying if you died and nothing happened. No Heaven no nothing.

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1. I would lose the grounding to my intellectual faculties, which serve as the epistemic basis for discovering the truth. A naturalistic account of this is insufficient in both my opinion and also the opinion of some atheists. (complicated, but discussed here)
2. I would lose the grounding for true moral behavior. With God, one moves either toward or away from an objective paradigm set by him, and our intuitions provide a real goal and apprehension of ultimate consequence toward our progression toward or away from Him. Without that objective paradigm, one is simply floating around in a sea of moral hypotheses where every direction is only contingently better than any other direction, there is no goal, no ground, no sky, just floating around in an evolutionary delusion in the mind until you die. One may have a moral compass, but it leads to nowhere, because it was born from nothing.
   
3. I would lose the transformative power of the Holy Spirit to lead one to true life, whom I have seen transform me, when I yield myself to Christ, and who I have seen utterly transform my wife through prayer.
4. I would lose my hope in suffering. I would no longer have anyone to call out too for healing, for which both me and my wife have received.
   
5. I would lose my reason to live in suffering. Whatever I deem good becomes my reason to live, and it's sustained deprivation becomes my reason to die.
6. I would live under a persistent delusion, born from an evolution of mind, which makes the world appear fallen from what it ought to be, compels me to cry to nothing for change, all while nothing hears me and no thing ought to be
7. I would lose the hope of the restoration of all things.
8. I would lose free will, and consequently rationality. Everything in nature is deterministic, why should I be any different. If I am determined to believe or not believe a thing, I cannot come to any rational conclusions. My thoughts and conclusions are no more important than a tree growing a branch, or a rock skidding down a steep cliff.
   
9. Finally I would lose the greatest person I have ever met, one who brings me to tears to consider. One whose consideration nourishes my soul, whose words establish my soul, whose promises will restore my soul. I would lose the ultimate raison d'etre, a raison d'etre that brings all things into utter completion and fulfillment. With Him I gain everything, apart from Him I have nothing but a mental delusion mistakenly called life.

InterestedAtheist said:

You thought you were.
and maybe you were right. Or maybe not.

I mean, it's not like human perception is famous for its unerring accuracy, right? Plenty of people have made mistakes before, and plenty of people have realised they were mistaken about something they believed with great sincerity.

And plenty of fervent Christians have gone on to realise they were wrong and have deconverted.

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dogs4thewin said:

so by that logic ( If that is what the OP means the answer is nothing.

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