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The reaction would definitely be different from person to person, from being totally OK with it and to feeling so not OK with it that the relationship could not survive anymore.

If my girlfriend would have told me she was homosexual, then I would certainly be glad she told, cause it must be a heavy burden to go alone with. I would do what I could to make her feel OK with herself and made it absolutely clear that I didn't judge her for this that she cant help being. But some people could use this against others, if not directly, then subconsciously. If anyone got a weakness, that weakness is often used by others to get a advantage.

But there would also be questions and doubts, like: Does she love me? Is she bisexual or totally homosexual? Am I just a sort of cover-up for her or do she really like me? Does she pretend to enjoy sex when we have it? Will she leave me or stay with me? etc. And questions like these could turn into problems, specially when it comes to sex. I would have serious problems enjoying sex if it was not enjoyable for my girlfriend. And also I would feel that it would be difficult with a relationship with no sex. So things like this could mean the end to a relationship, if it is not a really strong one with foundations in common values and interests and good friendship.

God bless.
 
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I don't see how the marriage could last...but that's just me..
 
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The relationship with my sister and her husband was terminated when she 'discovered' that he was 'gay'. That was some 30 years ago when I was living in the U.S. and my sister and husband were living here in Australia.

Some years later I asked my sister if she was against 'gays'. She said, "No, not at all ...I work with a couple of 'gay' people and we get along great. I really have no problem with 'gay' people at all." I asked her how she felt when she realized that her former husband (who I never met) was 'gay'. She said, "In retrospect I didn't mind the fact that he was 'gay' as such ...that didn't make him a bad person ...in fact, he was a very nice guy." She pondered for a moment, then said, "But why did he choose to marry me in the first place? THAT'S what I don't understand."
 
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"But why did he choose to marry me in the first place? THAT'S what I don't understand."

Well if we weren't told almost everywhere that we are wierd, unnatural or just an abomination, less people would do that, but that is just my opinion...

Then again, there are more people everyday that are open minded, so its good to know that eventually what happened to your sister will not have to happen again....

That is unless some extremist religious group decides to vote to make sure it keeps happening....
 
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How can a marriage survive such deception? When you get to the point of being married the "I just forgot to mention it" type of reasoning goes right out the window.

My concern wouldn't be having married a homosexual or a bisexual or whateversexual it would be that I had married a liar and a deceiver which is far worse.
 
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Being gay myself id be totally utterly not surprised if my gf was gay. Heh.

But hypothetically assuming I was hetrosexual and married a man and he turned out to be gay, id be pretty annoyed to be honest. Its a pretty big point not to mention, and while after the initial shock I could possibly empathise and understand that the pressures of society of religion made them do what they did, but it would be pretty heartbreaking.

Id certainly someone rather told me though... rather than bottling it up forever.
 
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I would be very upset. To me that is a cruel thing to do to somebody. And what I mean by that is for someone to knowingly be gay and then have someone fall in love with them so much that they give their self to them in marriage and then be deceiving them the whole time and hurt their spouse and possibly their children. Of course, that could be said about a lot of people who get married and their spouse deceives them in other ways.

I just think that if someone is gay and they are ashamed of it or don't want anybody to know then they should stay single so that they don't end up really hurting someone else by pretending to be something they are not.
 
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Is anyone wondering Why a gay man would do that?

Has it crossed through your minds that it might be because said man had not accepted himself as gay, and seeked to do what was "socially acceptable", ruining his life and someone elses.....

I mean, yeah it must be very hard for the wife, almost imposible to take... But it's no funride for the guy either.
 
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Both in your post above and in your previous post, Morrigu, you've hit the nail on the head. This is basically WHY I began this thread. WHY would a 'gay' man feel the need to marry someone that he has little or no sexual interest in?

I present two items below, one from the 'one betrayed' perspective and the other in regard to the 'Why' that you asked.

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The Fallout: When a Spouse Comes Out

It's a catharsis for McGreevey. But what about those left behind?

(Aug. 23, 2004) -- As Cathy Morton watched Gov. James McGreevey's televised confession last week, she felt drawn to his wife, Dina, who stood at his side with a pained half smile frozen on her face. "I've been there," says Morton, who says she discovered her husband cruising gay Web sites five years ago. "She may not feel lucky now," says Morton, who is now divorcing, "but at least he admitted the truth and took responsibility. That's something."

Few women have to endure the disclosure at a news conference, but Dina Matos McGreevey is hardly alone. Nationwide there are nearly 2 million "straight spouses" whose husbands and wives have come out of the closet, often after decades of marriage, says Amity Pierce Buxton, whose book "The Other Side of the Closet" examines the phenomenon. In most cases, says Buxton, wives or husbands are stunned by the revelation; in about a third, wives or husbands have an inkling that their partner is struggling, but "don't want to face the elephant in the room."

The wave of midlife coming-out crises is explained in large part by growing social acceptance. Gays and lesbians of McGreevey's generation were more likely to conform to the social pressure to marry—especially if they wanted children—than are young homosexuals today. As they approach middle age and watch their kids leave for college, many no longer see a reason to remain in their heterosexual marriages.

But while those coming out can find acceptance, even celebration, in their newfound identities, the partners and children left behind are often devastated. "The gay community is portrayed as courageous, but no one shows the families who are left to pick up the pieces," says Flo Kubes, whose wife left him for a woman in their congregation after 20 years of marriage. Kubes, a pastor in a conservative community in Minnesota, lost his job, he says, as a result (church elders felt the scandal was too distracting). The couple's teenage son was hospitalized for depression. Kubes says he struggled for months to find emotional help before joining Buxton's online support group, the Straight Spouse Network (ssnetwk.org). Many wives of gay husbands are terrified they've been exposed to AIDS. Kathy Rockel, whose husband came out to her shortly before his 50th birthday, says she dreaded telling a clinic worker in her small Colorado town why she needed an AIDS test. (Both spouses tested negative.)

Late last week the chat room was abuzz with speculation—and sympathy—for Dina McGreevey. What did it feel like to hear the truth while standing on a stage? Would she stay—or would she go? Who was helping her while attention was focused on her husband? And there were more than a few invitations for her to log on and find a virtual shoulder to lean on.
 
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Some Gays Feel Pushed to Marry Straights
New Jersey Governor's Lifestyle Not Uncommon

In an era of ever-expanding gay rights, gay awareness and gay pride, New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey's lifestyle seems antiquated: a gay man twice married to women and the father of two children.

But, say experts and formerly married gay men, pressures to live straight still override sexual orientation. Churches, the corporate world and family relationships continue to push gay men and lesbians into the closet, with a straight spouse as the perfect cover.

"There's an inordinate pressure for people to fit a certain mold," said Mark Shields, spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign in Washington, D.C., the country's largest gay and lesbian organization. Gays "stand against so many things you've been taught implicitly and explicitly from the moment you were born in this culture."
The number of gays or lesbians married to straight spouses is difficult to determine. Currently there are 6,000 to 7,000 active members of the national Straight Spouse Network, said Executive Director Amity Pierce Buxton in El Cerrito.

Buxton has been researching gay/straight marriages and speaking with some 9,000 spouses since the mid-1980s, when her husband came out as gay.
"He led a perfectly straight life, and it nearly killed him," said Buxton, who has two children with him. "He became physically depressed and withdrawn."

Many face similar lifelong struggles in these marriages, which are often based on true affection and respect. Information networks now exist for gay married men, married lesbians, straight partners and their children -- who each face different, painful issues.

"There is still a huge, negative wedge that says being gay or lesbian is sinful," said Bob, a 71-year-old formerly married gay man who asked that his last name not be used. He organized a chapter of the GAMMA (Gay Married Men Association) support group in Grand Rapids, Mich., where about 14 members of the national organization meet twice monthly.

In speaking with hundreds of gay married men through the years, Bob said, he most often hears of two pressures: church and family.
"Their families say, 'When are you going to marry and give me grandchildren?' And their churches look down on being gay" -- some even ask gays to renounce their sexuality or leave the congregation, Bob said.

Others are in professions that don't allow them to be themselves.
"I have clients who are teachers in Catholic schools and physicians very worried about being pegged as gay," said Joanne Fleisher, a licensed clinical social worker in Philadelphia who counsels married women attracted to other women. She's author of the upcoming book "Living Two Lives: A Married Woman's Guide to Coming Out."

The gay rights movement, especially active in recent years, isn't much inspiration to these men and women. Tom Fronczak, a Providence, R.I., psychotherapist who has counseled gay married men for 17 years, said they generally don't identify with the increased visibility and acceptance of gays.

"They'll say, 'That's not me,' with all the (gay) pride celebrations" and other public pictures of gays, Fronczak said. He runs the Gay Fathers of Rhode Island support group. During twice- monthly gatherings, men discuss the pull between marriage and fatherhood, and their identity as a gay or bisexual. "They're very conflicted about who they are, versus who they need to be for others," Fronczak said.
He added that he has never met a gay married man who has not been depressed or considered suicide: "These guys are so isolated. ... They feel there is no way out. They feel they are trapped between two worlds."

That's because despite more openness about being gay, it continues to be difficult.
"It is important to remember that only 14 states prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation," said Karen Krahulik, director of the Center for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Life at Duke University. "So far this year, 99 marriage-related bills have been introduced in 37 states, 91 of them to restrict gay marriage."
Some who work with married gays are cautiously optimistic that the younger generation of gays won't have to marry into the straight world.

"Hopefully it's dying out with old duffers like me," said Bob of Grand Rapids.
Shields, with the Human Rights Campaign, added, "One of the best ways gay people can help that is by living their lives out and open and honestly, so gay kids growing up today can see those happy role models. That is how change happens."
Dru Sefton, Michele M. Melendez, Newhouse News Service
 
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Those I have known in that situation were either in deep denial or thought their homosexuality was a sin they had been "delivered" from.

They weren't lying and deceiving their spouse any more than they were lying and deceiving themselves.
 
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What about the "ex-gay ministry" that convinced them they were changed?
 
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Well, since I'm in a gay relationship anyways, I wouldn't be *too* shocked that she likes girls.
I'd say that, if you were gay, imagine if your partner (assuming long term, as marriage often is) told you that they were actually straight. I'd say you'd also need to throw in there that you believe in monogamy and the relationship is something you're serious about (not simply a fling).

I can only agree with these two posts . I cannot, in good conscience, call someone deceitful and a liar if they believed that marrying someone of the opposite gender was the right thing to do - moreso if they were told it's God's Will (as many Christians would call a heterosexual marriage).
I know several married men who have sexual relations with other men behind their wives backs. I feel sorry for their wives because they have no idea what is going on.
I'd agree with you...as much as it might hurt the wives, I think being honest would be better than lying to them.
 
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Well, since I'm poly, I wouldn't mind if she wanted to get a boyfriend, but if she wanted to leave me altogether I'd cry for a very long time and not really talk to anyone for a couple of weeks, just like the last times I've broken up with someone. I'd let her go though, if she wasn't attracted to me anymore, what else could I do?
 
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