What would it take to trust Christ?

[Dagda]

What would it take to trust Christ for all of you who are not believers?

I believe a god probably exists; I just don't have any faith in him because I haven't seen a reason to yet. So, for me to have trust in God/Christ I would have to see some easy to understand and obvious sign(s) that God cared about any of us and was willing to help us with things that are out of our control, that we are powerless against. I have never seen a prayer truly answered even when greatly needed by good people. I have never seen any divine guidance in the way the human world works. There is no reason for God to be distant and indifferent if he is the Creator. Even if God proved his existence to you there is no real reason to trust God if he doesn't care.

 

[ChristianDude777]

I believe a god probably exists; I just don't have any faith in him because I haven't seen a reason to yet. So, for me to have trust in God/Christ I would have to see some easy to understand and obvious sign(s) that God cared about any of us and was willing to help us with things that are out of our control, that we are powerless against. I have never seen a prayer truly answered even when greatly needed by good people. I have never seen any divine guidance in the way the human world works. There is no reason for God to be distant and indifferent if he is the Creator. Even if God proved his existence to you there is no real reason to trust God if he doesn't care.

God's grace and peace,

Just to share here, I've seen and experienced many things that can only be supernatural. Once, in church during prayer, I was in the back of the sanctuary praying and I opened my eyes. There, praying with me were three angels. The thing is, they didn't look anything like I would have expected. They were shiny, transparent gold.

The reason we should have faith in God is because He instructs us to:

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

God's peace and love to you all...

Tim L.

 

[vajradhara]

Namaste Angel,

thank you for the post.

see... this is exactly the sort of thing that i'm on about

Can you agree that we cannot cause 13 plus inches of rain to fall in less than a few hours?

agreed. humans cannot normally do this.

Can you agree that we cannot control the actions of a party to when and how they will do an apraisal?

disagree. we can and do influence the apprasial and other aspects of the home buying experience. the appraiser is human and, as such, is subject to the same sorts of influences as other humans. for instance, when i bought my home, we had the appraisal done on our schedule and at our bidding.

Can you agree that we cannot control a home being flooded or even forsee that it would which is why we would NOT have elected to get flood insurance , because we saw no good reason for a home that was NOT in a flood zone to ever be flooded ?

disagree. we can control home flooding, depending on the type of flooding that is happening. however, if you have checked the 1,000 year flood plain charts you will know where the flood zones are, thus, we can certainly forsee that a home could become flooded, especially if it is within a few hundred yards of a creek or stream.

Can you agree that since we were held up by a bad apraisal , home didnt close on time , so the owner moved out anyway trusting that God had spoke to Him and then later finds it was a complete miracle that all his personal things were removed just prior to the home being flooded ?

perhaps you and i have different standards of what a miracle is. in this particular case... how have you determined that it's a miracle and not a happy coincidence?

the owner moved out anyway... why would they leave their stuff in a home that is being sold? that just seems like common sense..

the tricky bit, i suppose, is does this represent an intervention by God or just a coincidence? and how can one go about determining this?

Those are all things we could not control , so they are most definately objective .

hmm... let me ask... what, exactly, do you believe that objective evidence is? how does one go about acquiring objective evidence?