What Would Falsify the Flood?

[mzungu]

Your sarcasm caught me off-guard.

I would have expected that from most others, but not you.

But as I said, however, the Bible says you will, and I didn't heed the Bible; did I?

No sarcasm was intended AV. You used a very strong word "Repugnant". Such strong wording was uncalled for. Anyway let us leave it at that.

 

[AV1611VET]

No sarcasm was intended AV. You used a very strong word "Repugnant". Such strong wording was uncalled for. Anyway let us leave it at that.

Alright ... I apologize.

I'm poor in the area of synonyms anyway.

How about "goofy"?

 

[Split Rock]

You are also assuming an open deck which the Ark did not have. The way in was in the side of the ship.

Excuse me, but the ark was a containment vessel not a "ship." (thanks AVET )

It was also made of gopher wood. Do you know what that is?

Wood made from dead gophers?

 

[AV1611VET]

Excuse me, but the ark was a containment vessel not a "ship." (thanks AVET )

You impress the [pine] tar outta me.

Do you have a photographic memory or something?

Yes ... the Ark was one of three containment vessels called "arks" in the Bible.

Noah's Ark, Moses' Ark and the Ark of the Covenant.

All containment vessels.

 

[mzungu]

Alright ... I apologize.

I'm poor in the area of synonyms anyway.

How about "goofy"?

 

[AV1611VET]

"Goofy" it is, then!

 

[AV1611VET]

Wood made from dead gophers?

... C'mon!

 

[freezerman2000]

Gopher wood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Google is my friend..,but the identity of the KIND of wood used is open for debate.Some are brittle and the lightest and others are so heavy that they will not float at all..
FYI:All woods dont float - by gfadvm @ LumberJocks.com ~ woodworking community

 

[Loudmouth]

What evidence do you have that it wasn't caused by water?

I see that you totally avoided the question. What features would a geologic formation need in order to falsify a recent global flood?

 

[Loudmouth]

Ok, you are right, just 98% of them. The rest in amber and a few that got covered in volcanic eruptions, so 2% out of several billion fossils. Snicker.

Why Are Fossils Only Found in Sedimentary Rocks? - Ask.com

Some are found in metamorphic rock, which is just sedimentary rock subjected to high temperature after the fossil has already formed.

You need to study up on your geology bub. Your ignorance is showing.



Exactly, because they were not formed by the flood which deposited the fossils, and this is why they lack any fossils. You just proved flood theory and didn't even know it in your zeal to disprove it.

If you understood what you just said above, you would know flood theory is the only theory that fits. Sedimentary rock formed by processes other than water deposit, as you rightly pointed out, tend not to have fossils in them. But that corrolation has never crossed your mind because you like to ignore evidence that does not fit your fantasies. You just pointed out the best claim for flood theory, the fact that sedimentary rock formed by processes other than water deposit rarely have fossils in them.

Seems your scientists are saying you know nothing about what you speak

http://www.icrs2012.com/proceedings/manuscripts/ICRS2012_4C_1.pdf

"Linear extension, measured as change in length for individually tagged branches (or columns), was quantified for 394 branches, on 138 colonies from 6 genera. Of the 394 branches that were tagged in December 2010, 93.7% (369/394) were alive and growing in March 2011. Estimates of linear extension obtained using direct tagging were consistent between sites for all genera except Acropora where the linear extension at Horseshoe Reef was 14.76 ± 1.45 mm (mean ± SE) and North Bay was 18.53 ± 2.47 mm. The linear extension varied significantly within and among coral genera (Table 2). Acropora had the greatest mean linear extension (16.62 ± 1.43 mm) (Fig. 2). The slowest growing coral was Pocillopora with a branch mean linear extension of 2.15 ± 0.27 mm."

So in 3 months they grew anywhere from 1/2 inch or more. In 20 years? Add it up. Acropora cervicornis grows over 10 inches per year. That's 16 feet in 20 years. 83 feet every 100. How thick are your coral beds? Snicker, snicker.

Roth, A. A. --- Coral Reef Growth

Here is a telephone pole nearly buried in water deposited sediment, more specifically the lahars produced by the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo:

As far as I know, there were no telephone poles during Noah's time. Therefore, simply pointing at water born sediments does not indicate that there was a recent global flood since we observe sediments being produced now which are not from a global flood.

Secondly, you are completely ignoring the challenge. You need to describe what features a geologic formation would need in order to falsify a recent global flood. From what I have seen, no matter what features a formation has a creationist will find some excuse of how a global flood will produce it. From what I have seen, the creationist arguments are ad hoc rationalizations that are completely unfalsifiable. Prove me wrong.

 

[Loudmouth]

As I said: Miracles/Science = Confusion.

Belief in miracles = dogma

 

[Loudmouth]

Let me put it in easier terms:

Science can take a hike.

Let me put this in honest terms:

You are telling reality to take a hike.

 

[AV1611VET]

Let me put this in honest terms:

You are telling reality to take a hike.

We call them "miracles."

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't think God was bound by any laws.

That's why they're called "miracles."

So you are saying that your God is like a 5 year old that cheats at board games?

Is your only explanation for everything "magic"?

 

[Subduction Zone]

We call them "miracles."

You may.

Everyone else calls them "magic".

 

[Kylie]

We call them "miracles."

Is that like in Star Trek when they realise they can save the person with some gadget of the week which would be handy to have again next week but they conveniently forget about it?

 

[Loudmouth]

We call them "miracles."

Your rejection of reality is a miracle?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You do not know that Mount Everest was there at that time, at that height. You are assuming current conditions.

You are also assuming an open deck which the Ark did not have. The way in was in the side of the ship. It was also made of gopher wood. Do you know what that is?

No, we are not "assuming" current conditions. There is no reason to claim there were other conditions. Other conditions are easily debunked leaving only current ones.

 

[AV1611VET]

So you are saying that your God is like a 5 year old that cheats at board games?

Absolutely ... when scientists make the rules.

Is your only explanation for everything "magic"?

"5%"

 

[AV1611VET]

You may.

Everyone else calls them "magic".

Yes, I know ... and I see the results of that as well.