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What Would Falsify the Flood?

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The layers of the Grand Canyon were deposited by the flood and the river in the Grand Canyon was created by left over waters from the flood, over thousands of years, not millions. That is what the evidence is implying.

What evidence?

Please tell us how the meanders were formed by a catastrophic flood. I'd love too see your ebidence for that, which you of course have to hand since you claim it is on your side
 
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What evidence?

Please tell us how the meanders were formed by a catastrophic flood. I'd love too see your ebidence for that, which you of course have to hand since you claim it is on your side

Meanders in the Grand Canyon were formed over thousands of years. Water moves differently on the insides and outsides, pushing silt to the sides and you end up with a meander.

You can google it.
 
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Meanders in the Grand Canyon were formed over thousands of years. Water moves differently on the insides and outsides, pushing silt to the sides and you end up with a meander.

You can google it.

In my uneducated opinion, the Grand Canyon was created when God pulled Eden (a.k.a. Pangaea) apart in Genesis 10.

In other words, I think it is a testimony to the continental breakup, not the Flood.
 
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In my uneducated opinion, the Grand Canyon was created when God pulled Eden (a.k.a. Pangaea) apart in Genesis 10.

In other words, I think it is a testimony to the continental breakup, not the Flood.

Nope, we know that it occurred much later than 200 million years ago. That was when Pangaea broke up, in case you were wondering.
 
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Nope, we know that it occurred much later than 200 million years ago. That was when Pangaea broke up, in case you were wondering.

To be fair, he did qualify that as his "uneducated" opinion.

Of course, he'll still be relying on his more uneducated opinions long after he's been educated, but that's another matter.
 
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In my uneducated opinion, the Grand Canyon was created when God pulled Eden (a.k.a. Pangaea) apart in Genesis 10.

In other words, I think it is a testimony to the continental breakup, not the Flood.

That could well be. I am open to all possible scenarios.
 
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Meanders in the Grand Canyon were formed over thousands of years. Water moves differently on the insides and outsides, pushing silt to the sides and you end up with a meander.

You can google it.


I find it particularly odd that, instead of showing the evidence, you merely claim it's there and tell him to go look. Typically, you're more than willing to post whatever you think supports your idea as a link, whether it be from the usual claptrap sites (AiG or Evolutionnews, et cetera) or something cherry picked from an authentic site on the matter. That you haven't done so, here, is very telling.

At any rate, where is this 'thousands' of years coming from? If I recall correctly, the Bible says the waters receded within a years time, more or less, so it seems odd that you're adding to it all the sudden. Why were there flood waters so persistent in this particular area?

Also, you may not be aware of this, but we actually know what happens to an area when flood waters ravage it for a great deal of time.

Channeled Scablands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Channeled Scablands of Washington are area that experienced pretty much what you're suggesting here - thousands of years ago, there was0 a series of extremely powerful floods swept around the area for extended periods of time, called the Missoula Floods.



That's an area view. Compare that with the Grand Canyon.



You'll note that the former is more jagged, random, sporadic, completely lacking in the slow meanders that the latter picture exhibits - one long, winding path. It's a completely different structure. But it gets worse.

The Scablands have a variety of neat, unique geologic features; it's actually quite interesting. For instance, we have the presence of erratics, which are basically rocks, rather large ones, that are carried far from their sources and deposited in areas with different composition. We find these in the Scablands. We don't find them in the Grand Canyon.

We also find ripple marks, like these.


Also not present in the Grand Canyon.

Anyway, that's what I got after some Googling. What'd you get?
 
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Nope, we know that it occurred much later than 200 million years ago. That was when Pangaea broke up, in case you were wondering.
Yes, I'm familiar with you guys' beliefs about where the decimal point goes.

You guys think the earth [was] formed in 4,700,000,000 BC, and I believe it was created in 4004 BC.
 
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Yes, I'm familiar with you guys' beliefs about where the decimal point goes.

You guys think the earth [was] formed in 4,700,000,000 BC, and I believe it was created in 4004 BC.

What does the formation of the Earth have to do with the breakup of Pangeae?
 
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What evidence?

Please tell us how the meanders were formed by a catastrophic flood. I'd love too see your ebidence for that, which you of course have to hand since you claim it is on your side
Walt Brown models a post flood spill that carved the canyon. Is there some reason I should dismiss that??






In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - Walt Brown (1989)—Hydroplate Theory (summarized on pages 111–146).40 During the flood, massive amounts of sediments were produced by the high-velocity water escaping from
 
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Walt Brown models a post flood spill that carved the canyon. Is there some reason I should dismiss that??

"Different state past..." same reason you dismiss everything else.
 
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In this different state past, does water still turn to steam when it's heated up?

Hard to say -- dad's notoriously tight-lipped about the specifics of his different state past.
 
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In this different state past, does water still turn to steam when it's heated up?
Not only did water not behave according to present laws such as thermodynamics, but mass such as land and rock would have not produced or retrained great heat!

How else could oceans of water fall from space? How could the continents have quickly separated?
 
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