What will happen if, science runs across definitive proof of God?

[bhsmte]

I'm not sure if it's been asked, but what if there was undeniable proof not only of God, but of a god that is wildly diffefent from the one you believe in? How would you react?

That question always is skipped over in these hypotheticals, most just assume proof of a God, would be the God they believe in.

 

[agua]

What was the process you used to come to these conclusions?

[FONT=&quot]Firstly it’s a given that Yahweh does no evil nor does he temp with evil. Of course this will be challenged by anyone who has a different concept of or standard of evil. From the Christian standpoint Yahweh does no evil and so we can be safe in suggesting that Yahweh doesn’t influence people to do evil. This is seen throughout the Bible and is summarised in James.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Jas 1:13-15 KJV[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: (14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]We can then investigate the individual circumstances of this heart hardening to see if they’re consistent with this premise. The most discussed is Pharaoh in Exodus. From the introduction to this particular Pharaoh we can see he was very hostile towards the Israelite ( I’ll let you read about the infanticide order and increased workload etc in Exodus 1. ) and so it can’t be said that Yahweh caused this Pharaoh to have this heart/mindset. We also have indication from scripture that Yahweh is omniscient which includes knowing the future, or what will happen.
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[FONT=&quot]From here it’s a short step in logic to see that Yahweh’s influence on this Pharaoh wasn’t to introduce the hostility but only to reveal and likely hasten it. This subject is quite complicated and includes more study of omniscience, judicial propriety, and the timelines which will culminate in the last days. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Is that sufficient explanation? ( I know it’s brief ) [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Can I ask if you believe justice demands judgement and punishment? [/FONT]

 

[agua]

It's not a loaded question, it's just a hypothetical scenario where the parameters are so narrowly defined the respondents must answer with a yes or no. A loaded question is one where a claim is implicit in the question and by answering the respondent affirms it.

Im not sure why you think I desire a particular answer...I don't. The point of the question is to examine if the christian can change their beliefs when confronted with sufficient evidence. That's really all there is to it.

Now, ironically, the question you asked me is a loaded question. It makes several claims which I would be affirming by answering. So, I'll reword it slightly in order to make it a little better. How about this?

"Hypothetically, if the biblical end times were to occur, and a figure claiming to be god were to appear and perform "supernatural acts"...would you believe his claims of god-hood?"

The best answer I can give is that I simply don't know. I suppose it would really all depend upon what these "supernatural acts" are. Realistically, I think that some could convince me...but others would not. Hope that answers your question.

Yes it answers my question thanks and your answer is consistent with the scriptures.

 

[agua]

That question always is skipped over in these hypotheticals, most just assume proof of a God, would be the God they believe in.

Yeah that's true. The atheist possibly also has a particular version of the hypothetical god that they would prefer. It makes for a great Monty Python scetch

 

[bhsmte]

Yeah that's true. The atheist possibly also has a particular version of the hypothetical god that they would prefer. It makes for a great Monty Python scetch

Going out on a limb with this.

I would imagine, a non believer in a god, does not spend a lot of time worry about which hypothetical god may exist.

A believer on the other hand.........

 

[grandvizier1006]

A god that you PREFER, he means. Like if you inevitably had to accept a deity what sort would you like.

 

[agua]

Going out on a limb with this.

I would imagine, a non believer in a god, does not spend a lot of time worry about which hypothetical god may exist.

A believer on the other hand.........

I disagree !

A believer thinks only about the One True God. ( This sketch is a good one )

 

[bhsmte]

[FONT=&quot]Firstly it’s a given that Yahweh does no evil nor does he temp with evil. Of course this will be challenged by anyone who has a different concept of or standard of evil. From the Christian standpoint Yahweh does no evil and so we can be safe in suggesting that Yahweh doesn’t influence people to do evil. This is seen throughout the Bible and is summarised in James.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Jas 1:13-15 KJV[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: (14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]We can then investigate the individual circumstances of this heart hardening to see if they’re consistent with this premise. The most discussed is Pharaoh in Exodus. From the introduction to this particular Pharaoh we can see he was very hostile towards the Israelite ( I’ll let you read about the infanticide order and increased workload etc in Exodus 1. ) and so it can’t be said that Yahweh caused this Pharaoh to have this heart/mindset. We also have indication from scripture that Yahweh is omniscient which includes knowing the future, or what will happen.
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[FONT=&quot]From here it’s a short step in logic to see that Yahweh’s influence on this Pharaoh wasn’t to introduce the hostility but only to reveal and likely hasten it. This subject is quite complicated and includes more study of omniscience, judicial propriety, and the timelines which will culminate in the last days. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Is that sufficient explanation? ( I know it’s brief ) [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Can I ask if you believe justice demands judgement and punishment? [/FONT]

Lot of assumptions there, but hey, that is why it is a faith belief.

 

[bhsmte]

I disagree !

A believer thinks only about the One True God. ( This sketch is a good one )

That was precisely my point.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Yes it answers my question thanks and your answer is consistent with the scriptures.

No problem!

 

[JGG]

That question always is skipped over in these hypotheticals, most just assume proof of a God, would be the God they believe in.

Maybe. But it is a potential answer to the question of the OP. There are so many vastly different god concepts that any given person is likely to be wrong about it. That assumes that there even is one, and that someone, somewhere has even a broad idea of what it is.

If most Christians are prepared to embrace the new, proven concept then that's probably what most people will do. If most deny this proven god, then that is what most people will probably do.

 

[agua]

Lot of assumptions there, but hey, that is why it is a faith belief.

I gave you a little exegesis and logical progression in support give a little credit bloko.

 

[agua]

Maybe. But it is a potential answer to the question of the OP. There are so many vastly different god concepts that any given person is likely to be wrong about it. That assumes that there even is one, and that someone, somewhere has even a broad idea of what it is.

Why do you think humans think so much about our origins, in general ?

 

[JGG]

Why do you think humans think so much about our origins, in general ?

Most of us do not think about our origins.

 

[agua]

Most of us do not think about our origins.

I thought there were roughly %3 Atheists per World poulation. Do you mean most Atheists don't think about our origins?

 

[JGG]

I thought there were roughly %3 Atheists per World poulation. Do you mean most Atheists don't think about our origins?

Even if all atheists spent a lot of time thinking about our origins, 3% is quite a minority.

 

[quatona]

Why do you think humans think so much about our origins, in general ?

I think the question for "our origins" is sufficiently answered. The actual question now appears to be: Why are some people not satisfied with these answers?
I don´t know, I am not one of them.
You tell me.

 

[agua]

quatona

I think the question for "our origins" is sufficiently answered. The actual question now appears to be: Why are some people not satisfied with these answers?
I don´t know, I am not one of them.
You tell me.

Are you referring to the Atheist population ie. the %3 ?

 

[quatona]

dp

 

[quatona]

Are you referring to the Atheist population ie. the %3 ?

I was responding to your question as it read. It didn´t come with such a qualification - it said "humans[...] in general."