What where is now?

[Diamond72]

There is a page called time.is

I am told that my computer is .3 seconds behind. Behind what? Is time subjective or objective? Do we all share the same moment in time?

If we are looking at our reflection in the mirror. We are looking at the light that bounces off of us and then is reflected by the mirror and perceived by our eyes. Yet our eyes have to connect somewhere. So where is the now? Where does it all connect. Because the light has to travel from the mirror to our eyes, what we see is in the past and not the present monent. Depending on how small a unit of time physics will allow. This is called planck time. It takes 53.33 millimeter for light to travel from your hand to your eye. Depending on where your hand is of course.

If a dispensation is 1000 years then how can 1000 years be a day or how can a day be 1000 years?

I believe God is past, present and future. I believe that God does not heal memories. I believe He goes to the event AND heals us then at that point in time. Which then has an effect on the moment of time that we are currently in. When or where ever that moment is or exists.

We have different sensory preceptors that are integrated in the parietal lobe.

• The posterior parietal cortex helps us understand our position in space, perceive distances, and recognize objects’ locations relative to our body.
• It integrates visual, auditory, and somatosensory information to create a coherent spatial map.

So when or where is the current moment of time that we are suppose to abide in?

It use to take a lot of effort to get a watch that was accurate within 3 minutes. There was an adjustment in the watch to speed it up or slow it down. Still we were doing good to adjust our watch to be two or three minutes accurate. In the old movies you will see where they all synchronize their watches so they are all on the same time' Before atomic clocks the Janitor had to set the clock in every room so that they always had the accurate time on them. Now we seem to be accurate within .3 seconds. For GPS that is all adjusted. You could set your watch by Television because a program would start at the exact precise time. People that did not adjust their watch could be 6 or 7 minutes off NOT seconds, minutes.

 

[Dan Perez]

There is a page called time.is

I am told that my computer is .3 seconds behind. Behind what? Is time subjective or objective? Do we all share the same moment in time?

If we are looking at our reflection in the mirror. We are looking at the light that bounces off of us and then is reflected by the mirror and perceived by our eyes. Yet our eyes have to connect somewhere. So where is the now? Where does it all connect. Because the light has to travel from the mirror to our eyes, what we see is in the past and not the present monent. Depending on how small a unit of time physics will allow. This is called planck time. It takes 53.33 millimeter for light to travel from your hand to your eye. Depending on where your hand is of course.

If a dispensation is 1000 years then how can 1000 years be a day or how can a day be 1000 years?

I believe God is past, present and future. I believe that God does not heal memories. I believe He goes to the event AND heals us then at that point in time. Which then has an effect on the moment of time that we are currently in. When or where ever that moment is or exists.

We have different sensory preceptors that are integrated in the parietal lobe.

• The posterior parietal cortex helps us understand our position in space, perceive distances, and recognize objects’ locations relative to our body.
• It integrates visual, auditory, and somatosensory information to create a coherent spatial map.

So when or where is the current moment of time that we are suppose to abide in?

It use to take a lot of effort to get a watch that was accurate within 3 minutes. There was an adjustment in the watch to speed it up or slow it down. Still we were doing good to adjust our watch to be two or three minutes accurate. In the old movies you will see where they all synchronize their watches so they are all on the same time' Before atomic clocks the Janitor had to set the clock in every room so that they always had the accurate time on them. Now we seem to be accurate within .3 seconds. For GPS that is all adjusted. You could set your watch by Television because a program would start at the exact precise time. People that did not adjust their watch could be 6 or 7 minutes off NOT seconds, minutes.

Just asking , as to where in in the bible does it say that a DISPENSATION be a day , or how can day be a 1000 years ?

I say it just means God is OMNIPRESNT and believe that the bible teaches THAT and that God is above all time periods

What say you ??

dan p

 

[Diamond72]

where in in the bible does it say that a DISPENSATION be a day

Ephesians 3 2 "If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:" The age of Grace is actually two days or two thousand years. There are lots of names for the age we live in

 

[Dan Perez]

Ephesians 3 2 "If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:" The age of Grace is actually two days or two thousand years. There are lots of names for the age we live in

Why not explain your thoughts what DISPENSATION // OIKONOMIA then means >

But I do believe that the DISPENSATIO of the Grace of God , is the AGE of Grace has been Preached for 2OOO Years and counting !!

dan p

 

[Diamond72]

Why not explain your thoughts what DISPENSATION // OIKONOMIA then means >

FOR ME age, or era is the same as dispensation. If you want to get complicated as Paul does, it is the management of time. But I am not going to be able to explain that.

I suppose you will force me to think this through but it is a lot like the stages of life we go through. Considered to be six stages: Fetus, Baby, Child, Adolescent, Adult, and Elderly. Of course this leaves out the middle from 40 to 70. So adult is

• Early adulthood: A time when important life decisions are made
• Middle adulthood: A time when children grow up and new roles are taken on
• Late adulthood: A time of reflection and introspection, and the final stage of life, for people over 65

My first son died at 40. I think it was because he did not want to move onto the next stage in his life.

 

[Diamond72]

But I do believe that the DISPENSATIO of the Grace of God , is the AGE of Grace has been Preached for 2OOO Years and counting !!

So we do actually agree on something.

 

[Dan Perez]

FOR ME age, or era is the same as dispensation. If you want to get complicated as Paul does, it is the management of time. But I am not going to be able to explain that.

I suppose you will force me to think this through but it is a lot like the stages of life we go through. Considered to be six stages: Fetus, Baby, Child, Adolescent, Adult, and Elderly. Of course this leaves out the middle from 40 to 70. So adult is

• Early adulthood: A time when important life decisions are made
• Middle adulthood: A time when children grow up and new roles are taken on
• Late adulthood: A time of reflection and introspection, and the final stage of life, for people over 65

My first son died at 40. I think it was because he did not want to move onto the next stage in his life.

DISPENSATION // OIKONOMIA MEANS ??

OIKO , means HOUSE

NOMOS means LAW

So it means HOUSE LAW .

So what are the HOUSE LAWS ??

dan p

 

[Diamond72]

So what are the HOUSE LAWS ??

Justice, God's scale are perfectly balanced. Tekel: you have been weighed in the balances and are found wanting. (Daniel 5:27}

Daniel 5:27​

The universe, all of God's creation is very exact and very precise. Science is amazed at how exact and precise all of the universe is.

My son is a computer engineer and he tells me random does not exist. Even if it is to complicated for us to understand. It is not to complicated for God. This is why they are working on quantum computers to do the math that our current computers can not do. Or what is beyond classic physics.

​

 

[Dan Perez]

Justice, God's scale are perfectly balanced. Tekel: you have been weighed in the balances and are found wanting. (Daniel 5:27}

Daniel 5:27​

The universe, all of God's creation is very exact and very precise. Science is amazed at how exact and precise all of the universe is.

My son is a computer engineer and he tells me random does not exist. Even if it is to complicated for us to understand. It is not to complicated for God. This is why they are working on quantum computers to do the math that our current computers can not do. Or what is beyond classic physics.

​

And here are what the word DISPENATION // OIKONOMIA and here care the HOUSE LAWS .

#1 OSAS

# 2 He is COMING // PAROUSIA Back for the B O C

# 3 We will always be in Christ

#4 We will Govern God's Universe

#5 We will Govern Angels

# 6 We will given CROWNS as rewards , for using our GIFTS for Christ

Just to name a few ones >

dan p

 

[Marilyn C]

There is a page called time.is

I am told that my computer is .3 seconds behind. Behind what? Is time subjective or objective? Do we all share the same moment in time?

If we are looking at our reflection in the mirror. We are looking at the light that bounces off of us and then is reflected by the mirror and perceived by our eyes. Yet our eyes have to connect somewhere. So where is the now? Where does it all connect. Because the light has to travel from the mirror to our eyes, what we see is in the past and not the present monent. Depending on how small a unit of time physics will allow. This is called planck time. It takes 53.33 millimeter for light to travel from your hand to your eye. Depending on where your hand is of course.

If a dispensation is 1000 years then how can 1000 years be a day or how can a day be 1000 years?

I believe God is past, present and future. I believe that God does not heal memories. I believe He goes to the event AND heals us then at that point in time. Which then has an effect on the moment of time that we are currently in. When or where ever that moment is or exists.

We have different sensory preceptors that are integrated in the parietal lobe.

• The posterior parietal cortex helps us understand our position in space, perceive distances, and recognize objects’ locations relative to our body.
• It integrates visual, auditory, and somatosensory information to create a coherent spatial map.

So when or where is the current moment of time that we are suppose to abide in?

It use to take a lot of effort to get a watch that was accurate within 3 minutes. There was an adjustment in the watch to speed it up or slow it down. Still we were doing good to adjust our watch to be two or three minutes accurate. In the old movies you will see where they all synchronize their watches so they are all on the same time' Before atomic clocks the Janitor had to set the clock in every room so that they always had the accurate time on them. Now we seem to be accurate within .3 seconds. For GPS that is all adjusted. You could set your watch by Television because a program would start at the exact precise time. People that did not adjust their watch could be 6 or 7 minutes off NOT seconds, minutes.

God has appointed times and we are fast approaching the converging of God`s 3 purposes.

 

[Diamond72]

And here are what the word DISPENATION // OIKONOMIA and here care the HOUSE LAWS .

The "house" is a tabernacle. This is God's desire to dwell with or be a part of His Creation. This is why we need to be Holy, because God is Holy.

• In theological terms, Dispensational Theology views history as divided into distinct periods (dispensations) during which God administers His rule over the world in specific ways.
• Each dispensation reveals God’s will, requirements, and responsibilities for humanity during that period.

 

[Diamond72]

God has appointed times and we are fast approaching the converging of God`s 3 purposes.

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I do not understand why the Bible says that no one knows the time. We know the Church age (Age of Grace) is 2,000 years and then we have the 1,000 year reign of Christ. Then we have a new heaven and a new earth. I am not sure if the reign of Christ is literal or symbol. Also I do not know how we transition from one era to the next. Also there is a question of what does it mean that we rule and reign with Him? So I have more questions than answers.

 

[Dan Perez]

I do not understand why the Bible says that no one knows the time. We know the Church age (Age of Grace) is 2,000 years and then we have the 1,000 year reign of Christ. Then we have a new heaven and a new earth. I am not sure if the reign of Christ is literal or symbol. Also I do not know how we transition from one era to the next. Also there is a question of what does it mean that we rule and reign with Him? So I have more questions than answers.

And most believers say RAPTURE , but there is no Greek word for RAPTURE at all , and if do not believe it , just check the Greek text and see .

And I believe that the next thing to happen is found in 2 Thess 2 :1 on account of the COMING // PAROUSIA , even our gathering together unto Him

Then in verse 3 says that no one should be thoroughly deceived you in not one way because , EXCEPT // ME is a DISJUNCATIVE

PARTICLE NEGATIVE , the DEPARTURE // APOSTASTIA , { also used in Acts 21:21 } should come FIRST // PROTOS , and the Man of Sin be Revealed the son of destruction

These is the parting line BETWEEN the Departure of the BODY OF CHRIST and the GREAT TRIBULATION .

dan p

 

[Diamond72]

And most believers say RAPTURE , but there is no Greek word for RAPTURE at all

I have been to a few funerals. There is a body. What happened to the person in the Body. Rapture means to leave the body and we are all raptured when we die and we go somewhere. People have beliefs in nothing or nowhere, but they can not find or define nothing. There is always something. PERHAPS the rapture has to do with a nuclear war where a lot of people disappear all at once and good luck for those left behind. It is the 2028 election people should be concerned with. The world will never be the same after that.

 

[Dan Perez]

I have been to a few funerals. There is a body. What happened to the person in the Body. Rapture means to leave the body and we are all raptured when we die and we go somewhere. People have beliefs in nothing or nowhere, but they can not find or define nothing. There is always something. PERHAPS the rapture has to do with a nuclear war where a lot of people disappear all at once and good luck for those left behind. It is the 2028 election people should be concerned with. The world will never be the same after that.

Paul in 1 Thess 5:23 says , and may your entire spirit , and soul and body be kept blamelessly at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ .

# 1 And we know that the BODY goes to the Grave

#2 And we know that the spirit goes back to God that gave it to you , Eccl 12;7 .

# 3 But where does SOUL go to at death ?

# 4 Paul is the ONLY that says where GRACE believers go when they DIE , 2 Cor 12:1-4 .

# 5 Just because you may saved by Grace , Eph 2:8 NO ONE GOES TO HEAVEN . Why ?

# 6 Because we are waiting for the COMING of Christ for all Grace believers to be resurrected , 2 Thess 2:1 Christ COMING // PAROUSIA .

# 7 John 3:13 reads , that NO MAN hath ascended UP to Heaven , but HE that Came down from Heaven , even the Son of Man which is in Heaven >

It is interesting , when a Grace believer dies , his SPIRIT does not go back to Christ that gave it , so read 1 Cor 5:1-5

dan p

 

[Diamond72]

# 5 Just because you may saved by Grace , Eph 2:8 NO ONE GOES TO HEAVEN . Why

I have heard we go to heaven for 7 years for the wedding feast of the Lamb.
Then we return to Earth for 1,000 years to rule and reign with Christ.

People say mansions in Heaven.
John 14:2 "In my Father's house are many mansions"
I have even had a dream about my pastors mansion. He died when he was 100.

2 Corinthians 12 2
"I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven.
Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows."

Did you ever hear of entanglement? Everything in the Universe (Creation) past, present and furure is connected.
I wonder if Eve and Mary were to have a conversation, what would they say to each other?
Perhaps Mary would tell Eve about Jesus and Eve would be amazed.

 

[Dan Perez]

I have heard we go to heaven for 7 years for the wedding feast of the Lamb.
Then we return to Earth for 1,000 years to rule and reign with Christ.

People say mansions in Heaven.
John 14:2 "In my Father's house are many mansions"
I have even had a dream about my pastors mansion. He died when he was 100.

2 Corinthians 12 2
"I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven.
Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows."

Did you ever hear of entanglement? Everything in the Universe (Creation) past, present and furure is connected.
I wonder if Eve and Mary were to have a conversation, what would they say to each other?
Perhaps Mary would tell Eve about Jesus and Eve would be amazed.

So where is a verse that we ( who is the WE with a verse ? ) for a wedding ??

And a verse that ( Who return for 1000 years to rule and reign with Christ ) ??

dan p

 

[Diamond72]

And a verse that ( Who return for 1000 years to rule and reign with Christ ) ??

Did you skip over the: "I have heard". I do not know the meaning of this verse, do you? I am the one asking here. Do you know the answer as to who is going to reign with Christ for 1,000 years?

Revelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years".

So where is a verse that we ( who is the WE with a verse ? ) for a wedding ??

Revelation 19:9
Then the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”

Revelation 19:7,8
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready…

Revelation 7:15
I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

 

[Marilyn C]

I do not understand why the Bible says that no one knows the time. We know the Church age (Age of Grace) is 2,000 years and then we have the 1,000 year reign of Christ. Then we have a new heaven and a new earth. I am not sure if the reign of Christ is literal or symbol. Also I do not know how we transition from one era to the next. Also there is a question of what does it mean that we rule and reign with Him? So I have more questions than answers.

God`s word says to Israel that they would not know the time of His coming for they are in darkness. However, when Jesus ascended to the Father He has told us that we are NOT in darkness and we will` see` the day approaching. (1 Thess. 5: 1 - 5, Heb. 10: 25)

As to transitioning, well, that is the Lord`s responsibility but we are to `eagerly wait` for Him. (Heb. 9: 28)

 

[Diamond72]

God`s word says to Israel that they would not know the time of His coming for they are in darkness. However, when Jesus ascended to the Father He has told us that we are NOT in darkness and we will` see` the day approaching. (1 Thess. 5: 1 - 5, Heb. 10: 25)

As to transitioning, well, that is the Lord`s responsibility but we are to `eagerly wait` for Him. (Heb. 9: 28)

This is actually the first post that makes sense. Maybe the Church and Israel get their wires crossed. We need to discern what is for them and what is for us. Which is actually the first rule of Bible interpretation.