What was Hamas thinking???

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
Netanyahu Demands Answers from CNN, NYT, AP, Reuters, on Embedded Hamas Photographers

Netanyahu's administration is demanding answers from prominent news agencies with photographers apparently embedded with Hamas terrorists.

www.breitbart.com

CNN 'fires' freelance Gaza photojournalist over his 'ties with Hamas'

CNN has 'suspended all ties' with a freelance photojournalist who appears to have been embedded with Hamas on October 7 at the time of the terror group's barbaric assault on Israel.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Lols the media aren’t doing their jobs correctly.

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
Greetings @Pommer - looks like they are traveling/imbedded with terrorist's or are they maybe engaged in terrorist's activity?

How are we to get a balanced story if we don’t get “the enemy’s” side of things?

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
I do not see terrorism as balanced .. do you?

A journalist’s job is to gather information from all of the sources that they can.
Some are going to be embedded with the Israelis and some will be embedded with the Hamas terrorists…that’s their job, to go and talk and gather information from “the bad guys”.

Any journalist who engages in belligerency as a combatant and has ceased to be a journalist.

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
They are probably going to have to explain the situation to Mossad.

Like they’d get the chance.

BPPLEE · Nov 9, 2023

Pommer said:
How are we to get a balanced story if we don’t get “the enemy’s” side of things?

I haven’t seen any Putin interviews yet

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

BPPLEE said:
I haven’t seen any Putin interviews yet

Putin doesn’t “play well” with journalists who aren’t sycophants.

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
Netanyahu Demands Answers from CNN, NYT, AP, Reuters, on Embedded Hamas Photographers

Netanyahu's administration is demanding answers from prominent news agencies with photographers apparently embedded with Hamas terrorists.

www.breitbart.com

CNN 'fires' freelance Gaza photojournalist over his 'ties with Hamas'

CNN has 'suspended all ties' with a freelance photojournalist who appears to have been embedded with Hamas on October 7 at the time of the terror group's barbaric assault on Israel.

www.dailymail.co.uk

What are photojournalists supposed to do when they see that an attack is imminent?
Call their embassies?, Interpol?, the UN?

They are there to record what other people do, that’s their job, running out for a quick phone call to “home” to make sure the “good guys” have a “heads-up”, would likely be their last act as a living human being.

BPPLEE · Nov 9, 2023

Pommer said:
Putin doesn’t “play well” with journalists who aren’t sycophants.

Hamas does?

BPPLEE · Nov 9, 2023

Pommer said:
What are photojournalists supposed to do when they see that an attack is imminent?
Call their embassies?, Interpol?, the UN?

They are there to record what other people do, that’s their job, running out for a quick phone call to “home” to make sure the “good guys” have a “heads-up”, would likely be their last act as a living human being.

Maybe if they put down the grenade they could make a call

Fired CNN Journalist Accused of Ties to Hamas on Oct. 7 Posted Video Riding on Motorbike With Grenade-Wielding Man

Hassan Eslaiah apparently made the 35-second recording while riding on a motorcycle behind the man waving the explosive device

themessenger.com

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

BPPLEE said:
Hamas does?

Israel seems to think that journalists embedded in Hamas are somehow culpable in the terror attacks.

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
They were with Hamas on the initial murderous attacks, that is different than trying to get information as battles are happening.

Where were they supposed to go?
I’m sure Hamas has some people involved with making sure that the journalists don’t spill-the-beans; they don’t trust news people over there, either.

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
The way it looks to me is these "NEWS" organizations are paying terrorist's for recording acts of terror......

Hamas needs journalists more than journalists need Hamas.

wing2000 · Nov 9, 2023

The claim by "Honest Reporting"

The [Israeli] government seized on a report by a pro-Israel media watchdog group, Honest Reporting, which has long accused The Times and other news organizations of anti-Israel bias in their coverage of Israel’s conflict with the Palestinians.

“These journalists were accomplices in crimes against humanity,” the public diplomacy department of the prime minister’s office said in a tersely worded statement. “Their actions were contrary to professional ethics.”

In its report, the watchdog group questioned why six Gaza-based photographers, all of whom were working for The Associated Press and Reuters, were early to document the incursion by Hamas into Israel on Oct. 7. The journalists photographed an Israeli tank that had been destroyed at the border of the Gaza Strip, soon after the militants broke through a fence and swarmed into Israeli territory.

NYT Account:

"The Times said it had reviewed Mr. Masoud’s work for The Associated Press on Oct. 7 and determined that “he was doing what photojournalists always do during major news events, documenting the tragedy as it unfolded.”

In its review of Mr. Masoud’s work, editors at The Times determined that the first photo he transmitted to the A.P. — of the destroyed Israeli tank — was taken more than 90 minutes after the attack began, according to an editor at The Times who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an internal matter. Mr. Masoud told his editors, this person said, that he was woken at home in Khan Younis, in southern Gaza, by the sound of rocket fire, shortly after 5:30 a.m. on Saturday morning.

Mr. Masoud said he later made his way to the border, where he saw the fence had been breached and that an Israeli tank had been destroyed. He told Times editors, the person said, that he did not linger in Israel and did not photograph abductees or acts of brutality by Hamas fighters."

Israel Accuses Freelance Photographers of Advance Knowledge of Oct. 7 Attack

The New York Times said there was “no evidence” to support such claims about its freelancer.

www.nytimes.com

Wings like Eagles said:
The way it looks to me is these "NEWS" organizations are paying terrorist's for recording acts of terror......

That's what free lance photographers do---record events as they happen.

wing2000 · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
Looks like CNN does not agree.

CNN (and the AP) are referring to a different photographer - Mr Eslaiah

In a statement, CNN, which has also employed Mr. Eslaiah, said, “While we have not at this time found reason to doubt the journalistic accuracy of the work he has done for us, we have decided to suspend all ties with him.”

The Associated Press said it, too, had no advance knowledge of the attack. But it said in a statement that it was no longer working with Mr. Eslaiah, who filed the earliest and most extensive photos of the attack.

There were other red flags about Mr. Eslaiah. He posed for a picture being kissed by Yahya Sinwar, a Hamas leader who masterminded the attack. Amit Segal, an Israeli journalist, posted video on X, formerly known as Twitter, that he claimed showed Mr. Eslaiah riding in Israel on a motorcycle while carrying a hand grenade.

Mr. Eslaiah confirmed in an interview that he had been given a ride back to Gaza from Israel but said he was not the person carrying the grenade. He said he had no advance knowledge of the attack and had no links to Hamas, despite the photo with Mr. Sinwar. “I am very worried and scared,” he said.

BPPLEE · Nov 9, 2023

Pommer said:
Israel seems to think that journalists embedded in Hamas are somehow culpable in the terror attacks.

I agree with Israel.

wing2000 · Nov 9, 2023

BPPLEE said:
I agree with Israel.

From the information presented so far by "Honest Reporting", there is no evidence to suggest the news agencies knew about the attack in advance.

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

BPPLEE said:
I agree with Israel.

What does one do in this situation?

Pommer · Nov 9, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
There is no evidence that they didn't either, I agree with Israel and further, there is this little thing about guilt by association.

Which is a fallacy.

Again, what should have these journalists done differently?

wing2000 · Nov 10, 2023

Wings like Eagles said:
There is no evidence that they didn't either, I agree with Israel and further, there is this little thing about guilt by association.

The publication made a claim. It's up to them to provide evidence.

BPPLEE · Nov 10, 2023

BPPLEE said:
CNN photographer holds grenade. Source-his own Facebook page
View attachment 339034

What was Hamas thinking???

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

Well-Known Member

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

E pluribus unum

E pluribus unum

Well-Known Member

E pluribus unum

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

CoPacEtiC SkEpTic

E pluribus unum

Well-Known Member

Similar threads

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency