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What was God's intention?

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You tell me. Were all land animals reduced to only those few on the Ark, or weren't they? When talking about animal populations, such a reduction in population size is called a bottleneck.

Such bottlenecks have been found:
Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Y-chromosomal Adam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

but DNA is a new field. At $300 to $3000 per test, the results are still out on squirrels and elephants.

"We don't know one-millionth of one percent about anything."
- Edison, Thomas A.
 
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Such bottlenecks have been found:
Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Y-chromosomal Adam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

but DNA is a new field. At $300 to $3000 per test, the results are still out on squirrels and elephants.

"We don't know one-millionth of one percent about anything."
- Edison, Thomas A.

Yes, I'm familiar with both Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosome Adam. Would you care to provide an estimate of the population size during the time of either of those, or how long ago they lived? What would those estimates be based on?

PS: most creationists believe evolution happens thousands of times faster than evolutionists would think possible.
 
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Yes, I'm familiar with both Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosome Adam. Would you care to provide an estimate of the population size during the time of either of those, or how long ago they lived? What would those estimates be based on?

PS: most creationists believe evolution happens thousands of times faster than evolutionists would think possible.

P.S. Can you support your claim?

Superbug, super-fast evolution

Superfast Evolutionary Change In Mice Observed

Super-fast evolution - News 2010 - News & Events

Super-fast Evolution Saves Samoa Butterfly from Extinction — Plenty Magazine

This last story is a perfect match for Creationist views.
God designed species to survive.

Clearly if all of science was ignorant enough of the facts to deem this new information
as "Super Fast Evolution!" then...how accurate are my population estimates going to be
if I follow the any accepted guidelines for population growth?


Would you care to provide an estimate of the population size during the time of either of those, or how long ago they lived?
Why would I step so far from my Degree in Plastics Technology?
Given that every other linage of DNA disappeared other than "Eve" and "Adam", I have little else on which to guess.
 
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Suppose one story told of a world wide extinction by fire,
another by earthquake,
another by darkness,
another by lightning strikes.

Maybe this will uncloud your thinking to multiple stories of a flood by different people. Different accounts of the same event.

I didn't say they weren't referring to the same event. All I was pointing out was that this is a common ancient West Asian mythic trope, and the differences between the accounts show us what the event specifically meant to the Israelite mind.
 
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This is a weird thread. It is hard to follow some of all of these posts.

Option C:
Literal: The Bible says God did not care for His creation. He did not choose to destroy all of mankind. He saved 8 people due to one man's righteousness. Through him all of man were saved. He flooded the whole earth. He saved animals as well to replenish the earth after the flood. There was a rainbow set in the sky as a promise.

Allegorical: God gives second chances. If we choose to believe Him and are righteous He will save us. To be saved you have to be completely washed, not partially. Since man was put in charge of all the earth, our actions effect the whole earth. God keeps His promises.

So my answer to the OP is God meant it for all His creation to know what happened and why.

To answer the multiple choice questions:
1. Noah.
2. 6,876,345,129 species of animals

By the way the link sent me to some weird site.

Why are there other accounts? Because man can't play the telephone game right. Stories get strecthed. Names get changed, plus since the Tower of Babel, the names would have changed anyway. Gnostics try and make excuses of how it could have defied nature. Other religions (started by satan) try and debunk Hebrew faith.

To describe the flood as a myth is the first mistake. Even science calls all possibilities hypotheses.
 
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I didn't say they weren't referring to the same event. All I was pointing out was that this is a common ancient West Asian mythic trope, and the differences between the accounts show us what the event specifically meant to the Israelite mind.

And I SAID that the idea of them all describing the same event from different sources is a logical idea that many seem to be completely blind to. I appreciate your illustration of my point.
 
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