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There are many places where Jesus threatens people with eternal torture, death, or agrees with God's murderous ways.When did Christ, while embodied on Earth, ever kill anyone, or tell his disciples to kill anyone? When the Roman guards came to take Jesus away to face execution, did he order his followers to protect him, or chastise anyone who tried to physically harm others in his defense, and help to heal them?
There are many places where Jesus threatens people with eternal torture, death, or agrees with God's murderous ways.
Citation please.
Please note that there are two Jewish/Palestinian terms associated with the English term "hell", sheol and gehena. Neither of those terms describes an afterlife of 'eternal torture'. The term sheol simply refers to the concept of a physical 'grave' without any specific afterlife connotations. The other term, "gehenna", refers to a Jewish afterlife belief related a time limited "soul cleansing" process that every human must go through before entering their place in "heaven". Everyone must be cleansed of their sin while on Earth. Origin, a well respected early church "Father" of the Christian church also describes the purpose of the "fire" of gehenna. Again however, it implies no concept even remotely related to "eternal torment".
The concept of eternal torment comes from the pagan concept of "hades" introduced by Augustine in the 4th century AD.
Mark 9:44
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
That would be personal guilt, not "eternal torment" of God's doing.
Would Atheists believe , if they found out that speed of light is not constant ? That would take away like everything they know from science .
The concept of eternal torment comes from the pagan concept of "hades" introduced by Augustine in the 4th century AD.
Sorry, YouTube videos, possibly by kooks, is not evidence. Do you have anything of substance?
Sorry, YouTube videos, possibly by kooks, is not evidence. Do you have anything of substance?
ETA: He is a kook. He bases his work on cherry picking old inaccurate data. You need something that supports your claim.
How are 160 official mesurements of speed of light over 350 years inaccurate data?
That is merely the claim, you need proper sources. By the way, there are no "official mesurements<sic>".
Sigh. Please, that is just a paper by that kook. You need as a bare minimum a peer reviewed article from a well respected professional journal.
Sigh. Please, that is just a paper by that kook. You need as a bare minimum a peer reviewed article from a well respected professional journal.
Your poor source can be refuted by a marginally better one:
Barry Setterfield - RationalWiki
Please find a valid source.
LOL! You made the claim. The burden of proof is upon you. And no, I told you that if you found evidence I could be convinced. Papers by kooks are not convincing.You can find valid source yourself , you know the name of the author , no matter what i show you ,you won't believe anyways so it's waste of my time . You just have faith in ahtiesm like we have faith in religion , because you simple don't want to embrace something that can contradict what you were taught .
LOL! You made the claim. The burden of proof is upon you. And no, I told you that if you found evidence I could be convinced. Papers by kooks are not convincing.
But then you appear to be extremely ignorant on how science is done today. Do you know what a peer reviewed article is?
And no, faith is your sin, not mine.
In 1862 the speed of light was measured to be 298,000 +/- 500 km/sec, whereas in 1972 it was measured to be 299,792.4562 +/- 0.0011 km/sec. So if you wanted to make any kind of facetious claim at all, you could claim that it is speeding up.
Since 1983 the metre has been defined in terms of the speed of light.
You show difference between two ouf of 183 from that article , consider taking all the data not selecting small part of it to make your point.
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