What to say...what to say

[WarEagle]

Sorry for the long read, but truly, please read everything I posted.

I'd rather you just answer the question, rather than try to create a diversion by posting a ton of irrelevant Bible passages.

 

[RMDY]

I also used examples of how Satan inflicts suffering people and how he often targets righteous people who follow God to get them to sin and turn away from God, such as when I quoted the book of Job.

 

[RMDY]

In North Korea, Christians are the most persecuted group because they don't bow down to the dictator. Harsh punishment is reserved for them, such as pouring molten iron down their mouths.

 

[WarEagle]

I also used examples of how Satan inflicts suffering people and how he often targets righteous people who follow God to get them to sin and turn away from God, such as when I quoted the book of Job.

So, is that how you'd tell a Hindu he can be saved?

How would you expect a Hindu to extrapolate all of this out of these passages? Why would you expect it to mean anything to him?

 

[RMDY]

I'd rather you just answer the question, rather than try to create a diversion by posting a ton of irrelevant Bible passages.

They are only irrevelent to you

 

[WarEagle]

They are only irrevelent to you

They're irrelevant to the topic at hand. Not one of them shows the Hindu how to be saved and not one of them explains how watching your wife be raped and then being tortured for your faith in Christ is "a better plan for your life".

I was answering what you had quoted when you replied to my post

And you completely ignored my question asking you what you'd tell him to do in order to be saved.

So I replied with passages that deal with suffering and how early christians said to deal with it.

Which might be lovely if that's was what we're talking about.

And now you want to tell me such encouraging Scriptures are irrevelant? Your a christian yet you tell me what I posted was irrevelent?

In this case, yes.

In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.
ephesians 1:13-14

Which, again, would be just swell if that was what we're talking about.

So, I guess the poor Hindu is just going to stand there while you rattle off bumper sticker slogans. I sure hope somebody comes along and presents him with the Gospel before he dies of boredom.

What I said is not irrevelent if a hindu is looking for encouragement about dealing with sufferings as a christian.

Aside from the obvious problem that the Hindu is not a Christian, if you're going to try to sell Jesus as a life enhancement program, then you must still explain why bad things happen, when you're promising good things.

Once a hindu is saved, he has to repent of his sins

Except that one cannot be saved unless they repent.

Second, how do you know he's a sinner?

In Jesus, Hindus receive the forgiveness of their sins

That's great. He can stay a Hindu and still have his sins forgiven. Best of both worlds.

 

[RMDY]

So, is that how you'd tell a Hindu he can be saved?

How would you expect a Hindu to extrapolate all of this out of these passages? Why would you expect it to mean anything to him?

I was answering what you had quoted when you replied to my post:

What??? Have you seen my country? A Christian in my country has the life expectancy of an ice cube in the desert! The kill Christians and torture them in my country. A pastor in my village was dragged out into the street and made to watch while his wife and daught were raped. Then, the mob took steel rods and broke every bone in his body. Is that the kind of 'wonderful plan' your god has for me"?

So I replied with passages that deal with suffering and how early christians said to deal with it.

And now you want to tell me such encouraging Scriptures are irrevelant? Your a christian yet you tell me what I posted was irrevelent?

 

[RMDY]

They're irrelevant to the topic at hand. Not one of them shows the Hindu how to be saved and not one of them explains how watching your wife be raped and then being tortured for your faith in Christ is "a better plan for your life".

In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.
ephesians 1:13-14

 

[RMDY]

What I said is not irrevelent if a hindu is looking for encouragement about dealing with sufferings as a christian.

 

[RMDY]

Once a hindu is saved, he has to repent of his sins, which include worshipping idols and false Gods.

 

[RMDY]

In Jesus, Hindus receive the forgiveness of their sins

 

[indianx]

Hindus receive the forgiveness of their sins

I believe Lord Krishna's grace is enough.

"What??? Have you seen my country? A Christian in my country has the life expectancy of an ice cube in the desert! The kill Christians and torture them in my country. A pastor in my village was dragged out into the street and made to watch while his wife and daught were raped. Then, the mob took steel rods and broke every bone in his body. Is that the kind of 'wonderful plan' your god has for me"?

No, an Indian Hindu (I don't understand why my non-Indian brothers would have to respond to a question about India), or any Indian, for that matter, would respond, "Have you been to my country?" India is a democratic and secular nation. Have there been acts of religious extremism? Yes, but they are sparse and vary among all the religious groups (meaning they're not limited to Hindus). But, they're definitely not representative of the majority of the population, regardless of religion. If you want to reply by pointing out specific acts of Hindu extremism against Christians, I would be much obliged if I could have the opportunity to reply in kind. You could begin by looking into the life of Shanti Tripura, who was, incidentally, murdered by Christians inside his ashram for refusing to convert to Christianity in 2000 (and yes, this was in India).

 

[RMDY]

I believe Lord Krishna's grace is enough.

What did Krishna do for you?

 

[RMDY]

I do not believe Hindus are against Christians. Then again, I don't really know what goes on in India between hinduism and christianity

 

[WarEagle]

I do not believe Hindus are against Christians. Then again, I don't really know what goes on in India between hinduism and christianity

Go to Voice of the Martyrs website some time. India is a pretty bad place to be a Christian.

In the last several years, many, many Christians have been killed or persecuted, most of them with the cooperation of the government.

 

[indianx]

In the last several years, many, many Christians have been killed or persecuted, most of them with the cooperation of the government.

That's a pretty ignorant statement. India is a diverse country. There are states with Christian chief ministers, in fact, there are states with Christian majorities. Most of these states are in the North-East, where, incidentally, Christian terrorist organizations have banned Hindu holidays (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/953200.stm) and have killed many animists and Hindus in their attempts to forcefully convert non-Christians. (Check into the NLFT).

Go to Voice of the Martyrs website some time. India is a pretty bad place to be a Christian.

Go to Christian Agression.org some time. It might seem like India is a pretty bad place to be a Hindu.

 

[indianx]

What did Krishna do for you?

My line of thinking - What have I done for Lord Krishna today?

 

[RMDY]

Christian terrorist organizations

Christian terrorists?

 

[RMDY]

My line of thinking - What have I done for Lord Krishna today?

Did Kishna do anything for you?

 

[indianx]

Christian terrorists?

Yes.

The NLFT is accused of forcing Tripura's indigenous tribes to become Christians and give up Hindu forms of worship in areas under their control.


Last year, they issued a ban on the Hindu festivals of Durga Puja and Saraswati Puja.


The NLFT manifesto says that they want to expand what they describe as the kingdom of God and Christ in Tripura.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/717775.stm

Did Kishna do anything for you?

I don't understand your way of thinking. It's almost as if you're talking about different companies. What does company A offer you? Well, let me give you this brochure. As you can see, company B offers a better discount rate and different services. That's just not the way I think. Perhaps you could clarify your question.