mark wrote:
I did. That's what asking for evidence of a claim is. Do you agree that it is justified to ask for evidence of a claim, and that doing so is not "running someone in circles"? Creationists are often seen as making claims without evidence. You seem to be reinforcing that stereotype by defending a creationist for making claims without evidence.
so, ...........Do you have any evidence for that claim?
The ratio is different for different methods. If he wants to discuss them, he can.
As far as "why anyone should trust radiometric dating", I did say that - one main reason is that it is confirmed by many other methods, including non-radiometric ones.
Papias
P.S. - since I doubt mark will actually present evidence that TO is atheistic, I provide this statement from TO, expecitly supporting the compatibility between TO and a belief in God: God and Evolution
Papias wrote:Again! Papias makes makes third person indictments to no one over nothing. When are you going to learn, attacking the person is not the same as refuting an argument.Again, Martyrs44 makes a claim without any evidence.
mark, I only asked him to supply evidence for his claim. You certainly support the idea that those making a claim should supply evidence, right?
I got a better idea, why don't you address what he said and quit trying to run him in circles.
I did. That's what asking for evidence of a claim is. Do you agree that it is justified to ask for evidence of a claim, and that doing so is not "running someone in circles"? Creationists are often seen as making claims without evidence. You seem to be reinforcing that stereotype by defending a creationist for making claims without evidence.
Talk Origins is dedicated to a single purpose, attacking the belief that God is Creator, how could that be considered anything other then atheistic materialism?
so, ...........Do you have any evidence for that claim?
Suppose you tell him what the ratio is, what it means and why anyone should trust radiometric dating?
The ratio is different for different methods. If he wants to discuss them, he can.
As far as "why anyone should trust radiometric dating", I did say that - one main reason is that it is confirmed by many other methods, including non-radiometric ones.
Then please explain why dozens of dating methods, using a wide range of different phenomena (some of which aren't even on earth), all "just happen" to confirm each other, again and again, over thousands of tests on millions of samples. Martys44, why do you think that happens?
First of all the ratios of these radiometric dating techniques are hopelessly flawed by false assumption which is why I never bothered with them. They observe the half life changes for weeks, months or a few years and project it over eons. This standard of proof is never allowed in real world science unless it supports the a priori assumption of universal common descent by exclusively naturalistic means.
You didn't answer why they all agree with both each other and the non-radiometric methods, nor did you give any support to your assertion that universal common descent is an a priori assumption, instead of a conclusion based on the evidence.
Please point out any personal attacks - did I call someone a name? Do you consider it an attack to ask for evidence?
By whom am I being used? The vast evil biologos conspiracy?So are you done now or would you like to continue making fallacious personal attacks?
Please point out any personal attacks - did I call someone a name? Do you consider it an attack to ask for evidence?
Papias
P.S. - since I doubt mark will actually present evidence that TO is atheistic, I provide this statement from TO, expecitly supporting the compatibility between TO and a belief in God: God and Evolution
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