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Jesus never ever negated the Law, BABerean2.
I see.
You're saying pronouns in grammer don't matter nor lend understanding to context. Is that correct?
you expecting me to do a song and dance is equivalent to me expecting you to provide support for your claims instead of just saying brainwashed? sure.....ok davy......
It means exactly what it says, from generation to generation: from grandfather's generation, so his son's generation, to his grandson's generation, and so on and so forth.
Jesus never says anything about the Law being faulty, either.
If you think they will be literally fulfilled you'll need a time machine.QUOTE="gomerian, post: 72883808, member: 409281"]QUOTE="ebedmelech, post: 72880688, member: 311061"]
saints have to understand the OT prophets correctly as Paul did
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Seriously? Book, Chapter, and Verse, please.
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Romans 9, where Paul interprets prophesies of Hosea and Isaiah.
Not to mention Jesus quoting the prophets!
The consider what Paul said of himself at Ephesians 3:1-13.
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Then what do you do with Hosea 2:11-13 thru Hosea 2:14-16 thru Hosea 2:16-17 ? And what on earth happens to Isaiah 11:12-13 ?
You need to reconcile what says with what the Prophets said before him, not the other way around.
How did Jesus quoting the prophets enter the discussion ? Jesus is both proven prophet and God, and even He says John 5:31-32. Circular reasoning doesn't work any better than self-promotion or ripping verses out of context.[/QUOTE
The verses you put forward will be fulfilled, literally, by genetic Israel and Judah, according to my verses.
As to age, what does that have to do with anything? Do I need any other teacher besides Jesus? What Jesus says is a stand-alone, no other can ride in the same boat.
Yeah it does mean exactly what it says. The verse is using the word generation pointing to time, and it's not pointing to a specific people.
Luke 1:50
50 And His mercy is on them that fear Him from generation to generation.
KJV
Does that point to a specific person anywhere in that? NO!
It is not about a specific people.
It's about TIME, from era to era.
Ok. Keep looking for it.No, I'm saying the way you're trying to show the use of articles is actually to DISCONNECT from the context. That's what your examples are, of 'this' or 'that' in conjunction with the word generation by itself separated from the Matthew 24 context.
Jesus never ever negated the Law, BABerean2.
Negation of the Law is iniquity and Antinomianism.
You cannot drag Jesus down to that level.
What you think on the subject, if it means that you're blaspheming Jesus, you should try very hard to keep to yourself.
If you think they will be literally fulfilled you'll need a time machine.
Do you disagree with the author of hebrews?
Hebrews 8:6-7
But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.
7For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.
It's up to you to prove that Jesus called the Law inferior or faulty or finished.
You have entirely failed, so far, BABerean2. So... are you learning anything yet?
Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.'
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
I have learned that the doctrine of the Judaisers works by ignoring the passage above and "the ministry of death engraved on stone" in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and the Paul's word about the temporary nature of the Sinai Covenant in Galatians 3:16-29, and the Sinai Covenant of "bondage" in Galatians 4:24-31, and the "change in the law" in Hebrews 7:12, and the New Covenant making the Old Covenant "obsolete" Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24.
However, what has been more valuable is that others here watching our interaction have also seen what is necessary to make the doctrine of the Judaisers work.
You have played an important role in that effort.
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Oh... and, I have no idea what you're labeling Judaisers. Judaism is Torah/Talmud, and it has been since Jesus mentions those who follow the doctrines of men. The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that the Pharisees are today's Rabbis. I am pleased to inform you that I don't follow the Pharisees of either today or yesterday. But if you were clumsily attempting to apply that label to me... well, that makes your false witnessings against me 5 in number.
Does Jesus say anything like that?
I know it's not about me. Question is, have you carefully read Hosea? Read Hosea 1:1"her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts"
Are you seriously thinking this is about you?
We agree then, that this verse is about anyone from any generation, that if they fear the Lord, He will have mercy on them. This is not about a specific generation or specific person, but to anyone throughout history who fears the one true God.
Which of course involves the word 'generation' used in the TIME sense, since it can apply to 'any' generation period;
apply to a specific generation era of time, which is how He used it in context with the signs of the end of the world He was giving there in Matthew 24 and Mark 13.
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