What the media doesn't tell you about Ahmadinejad

[archangelmichael]

The 'imminent' arrival of the Mahdi, is of paramount importance to Ahmadinejad ,the number one thing on his list of 'things to do' is to hasten the arrival of the Mahdi, but does anyone recall reading about this announcement during his latest visit?

The last time he visited the United Nations, he 'closed' his remarks with a prayer to Allah to hasten the return of the Mahdi.

This time, at Columbia University, he 'opened' his remarks with the same type of prayer to Allah regarding the return of the Mahdi!

So why is this so important? It is important because when Ahmadinejad makes this invocation, he is saying a great deal more! The important factor here is what is necessary to bring about the return of the Mahdi!

Chaos!

Think about that. Ahmadinejad must usher in chaos and war before he can fulfill his destiny. You are the pawns in his game on this world wide chessboard.

He doesn't have the slightest concern about loss of lives, the more the better to create the chaos. His attempts at creating chaos are working and needs little else but to let a few missiles fly to be successful in attaining his destiny!

We do not acknowledge that there are evil forces that make evil people do evil things and we will be blindsided by that evil.

Evil is the issue, and if good men do nothing, evil will prevail.

More on this at:

Michael
[link to anewknighthood.blogspot.com]

 

[ContentInHim]

I agree totally, Michael!

 

[bunced]

OK, so he starts with a prayer for Islamic eschatology. So what? Isn't that just an expression of his faith - surely that in itself isn't inciting any violence against the West.

Isn't this the same as a Christian "looking forward to the return of Jesus"?

 

[Micah68]

OK, so he starts with a prayer for Islamic eschatology. So what? Isn't that just an expression of his faith - surely that in itself isn't inciting any violence against the West.

Isn't this the same as a Christian "looking forward to the return of Jesus"?

I see no difference in the Christian Zionist and their manipulations and praying for a speedy return of Christ. Did Christ teach this to us? Are we to hasten his return? What has happened to loving our neighbor, all our neighbors?

 

[dayhiker]

I don't think they are the same thing, Looking for Christ's return and praying of he return of Mahdi.

I can see the sense that they are just words as idols were not really gods. But these outlooks on life od effect the people that believe in them. Christians are to live a good life while looking for Christ to return. Muslems have not problem waring, causing terror etc with the infidels in seeking the return. Their history is full of this right up to the pressent moment. Now unfortuantly there is a lof of violence in our hostory also. Much of that violence is in the direct disobedeince to what the Word teaches us. For now Christian leaders are preaching that violence. I pray that continues.

dayhiker

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The 'imminent' arrival of the Mahdi, is of paramount importance to Ahmadinejad ,the number one thing on his list of 'things to do' is to hasten the arrival of the Mahdi, but does anyone recall reading about this announcement during his latest visit?

The last time he visited the United Nations, he 'closed' his remarks with a prayer to Allah to hasten the return of the Mahdi.

This time, at Columbia University, he 'opened' his remarks with the same type of prayer to Allah regarding the return of the Mahdi!

So why is this so important? It is important because when Ahmadinejad makes this invocation, he is saying a great deal more! The important factor here is what is necessary to bring about the return of the Mahdi!

Chaos!

Think about that. Ahmadinejad must usher in chaos and war before he can fulfill his destiny. You are the pawns in his game on this world wide chessboard.

He doesn't have the slightest concern about loss of lives, the more the better to create the chaos. His attempts at creating chaos are working and needs little else but to let a few missiles fly to be successful in attaining his destiny!

We do not acknowledge that there are evil forces that make evil people do evil things and we will be blindsided by that evil.

Evil is the issue, and if good men do nothing, evil will prevail.

More on this at:

Michael
[link to anewknighthood.blogspot.com]

One could say that American neo-conservatives are doing exactly the same thing. But that would be, most likely, like this, a baseless conclusion.

 

[Micah68]

I don't think they are the same thing, Looking for Christ's return and praying of he return of Mahdi.

I can see the sense that they are just words as idols were not really gods. But these outlooks on life od effect the people that believe in them. Christians are to live a good life while looking for Christ to return. Muslims have not problem waring, causing terror etc with the infidels in seeking the return. Their history is full of this right up to the pressent moment. Now unfortuantly there is a lof of violence in our hostory also. Much of that violence is in the direct disobedeince to what the Word teaches us. For now Christian leaders are preaching that violence. I pray that continues.

dayhiker

Don't know what 'Christian' leaders you are listening to but.....preaching violence??? Christ did not teach this! God Commanded us to love our neighbor, love our enemy, love our brother; Where does preaching violence match up with this criteria? And yes, Muslims also look for the return of Christ, which at this time they too will then follow him. Do the research, better yet walk up to a Muslim they will be very glad to tell you what they believe. I have many friends who are Muslim and I can tell you none pray for violence instead they pray for peace as Christ has taught. I am curious how preaching violence is spreading the 'GOOD NEWS'? I wonder how preaching violence is spreading Christ's love for all?


FYI because there might be an opportunity to share God's love for all.

Who are Muslims and what do they believe?

• There are an estimated 1.2 billion Muslims worldwide. No more than 20 percent of Muslims live in the Arabic-speaking world. The country with the largest Muslim population is Indonesia. Muslims believe in One, Unique, and Incomparable God. They believe in the Day of Judgement and individual accountability for actions. Muslims believe in a chain of prophets beginning with Adam and including Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, David, Solomon, and Jesus. God's eternal message was reaffirmed and finalized by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be on them all). One becomes a Muslim by saying, "There is no deity but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God." By this declaration, the person announces faith in all of God's messengers.

 

[Micah68]

The 'imminent' arrival of the Mahdi, is of paramount importance to Ahmadinejad ,the number one thing on his list of 'things to do' is to hasten the arrival of the Mahdi, but does anyone recall reading about this announcement during his latest visit?

The last time he visited the United Nations, he 'closed' his remarks with a prayer to Allah to hasten the return of the Mahdi.

Michael
[link to anewknighthood.blogspot.com]

In the same way John Hagee prays for the 'Rapture' and 'Armageddon'? In the same way Hagee pushed for war with Iraq and is now pushing for war with Iran? Nothing would make Hagee and his followers happier than someone dropping an A bomb on Iran. Praying for the return of The Messiah and the peace he brings sounds pretty good to me.

Mah·di n. Islam., pl. -dis.

1. The messiah who, it is believed, will appear at the world's end and establish a reign of peace and righteousness.
2. A leader who assumes the role of a messiah.

 

[lincolngreen50]

I see no difference in the Christian Zionist and their manipulations and praying for a speedy return of Christ. Did Christ teach this to us? Are we to hasten his return? What has happened to loving our neighbor, all our neighbors?

Yes, I agree Jesus didn't ask us to hasten his coming however, he told us to pray about about God's kingdom to be established on earth and for HIS will to be done.

Our father which art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy Kingdom come
Thy will be done
in earth as it is in heaven....

 

[Micah68]

Yes, I agree Jesus didn't ask us to hasten his coming however, he told us to pray about about God's kingdom to be established on earth and for HIS will to be done.

Our father which art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy Kingdom come
Thy will be done
in earth as it is in heaven....

Thy Kingdom come, meaning this has already happened, that WE recognize (NOT future tense) the coming of Christ. The Kingdom ruled by Jesus Christ, The Kingdom consisting of the faithful followers of Christ, 'The Kingdom', is already here. If this is not so, then what was the purpose of Christ Jesus? Why must we continually minimize and disrespect the sacrifice Christ made for our sin by the spilling of his own blood?

Now, God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven. May we all strive to do God's will and not the will of man. Amen

 

[Micah68]

In a TV interview President Ahmadinejad actually said, "We do not accept or officially recognize Israel. They are occupiers and illegitimate. But our approach is humanitarian. I ask you where is the Soviet Union now - has it been wiped out or not? It has been wiped out without a war…We do not deceive ourselves. We say a regime that…is an occupier which bullies people…cannot survive…What role did the Palestinian people play [in the holocaust]? The Palestinians were innocent. Why should they be punished, why should their land be occupied, why should they be killed and why should they be turned in to wanderers?"

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18376.htm

 

[Servant222]

Don't know what 'Christian' leaders you are listening to but.....preaching violence??? Christ did not teach this! God Commanded us to love our neighbor, love our enemy, love our brother; Where does preaching violence match up with this criteria? And yes, Muslims also look for the return of Christ, which at this time they too will then follow him. Do the research, better yet walk up to a Muslim they will be very glad to tell you what they believe. I have many friends who are Muslim and I can tell you none pray for violence instead they pray for peace as Christ has taught. I am curious how preaching violence is spreading the 'GOOD NEWS'? I wonder how preaching violence is spreading Christ's love for all?


FYI because there might be an opportunity to share God's love for all.

Who are Muslims and what do they believe?

• There are an estimated 1.2 billion Muslims worldwide. No more than 20 percent of Muslims live in the Arabic-speaking world. The country with the largest Muslim population is Indonesia. Muslims believe in One, Unique, and Incomparable God. They believe in the Day of Judgement and individual accountability for actions. Muslims believe in a chain of prophets beginning with Adam and including Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, David, Solomon, and Jesus. God's eternal message was reaffirmed and finalized by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be on them all). One becomes a Muslim by saying, "There is no deity but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God." By this declaration, the person announces faith in all of God's messengers.

What you say about Christianity is absolutely correct- it is a religion that time and time again teaches us to love God and to love our neighbour. Christians throughout the ages have strayed from that message, and justified all sorts of heinous things, but that doesn't change what the Bible teaches.

But my understanding of Islam is that it is not like that at all. Although some may claim that Muslims want peace, the Koran teaches otherwise- kill the infidels is the message that I see, and the majority of Muslims in places like Iraq, Iran and Pakistan seem to believe that, despite what you may hear in the West where that type of threat is unlawful.

Islam started 600 years after Jesus delivered his message of peace and salvation. It rejected the teachings of the Bible and instead embraced the ideas of one man, Muhammed, who claimed that he had received a different message from God- a message that allowed the killing of infidels, polygamy, and pedophilia, among other things; practices that the Bible and Christians utterly reject.

The Biblical message of love, peace and salvation through Jesus Christ has stood, unchanged, the test of over 2000 years of time. The Bible is the inspired Word of God, but was written by a large number of independent-thinking disciples, many of whom saw and lived with Jesus first-hand, and didn't base their ideas on the claims of one man who maintains he received a new vision directly from God. It has never condoned murder, sexual immorality, etc.; its principles of conduct have stood firm since time immemorial.

Others can believe what they want- but I will stick with Jesus.

 

[gwynedd1]

I don't think they are the same thing, Looking for Christ's return and praying of he return of Mahdi.

I can see the sense that they are just words as idols were not really gods. But these outlooks on life od effect the people that believe in them. Christians are to live a good life while looking for Christ to return. Muslems have not problem waring, causing terror etc with the infidels in seeking the return. Their history is full of this right up to the pressent moment. Now unfortuantly there is a lof of violence in our hostory also. Much of that violence is in the direct disobedeince to what the Word teaches us. For now Christian leaders are preaching that violence. I pray that continues.

dayhiker

Hello dayhiker,

They are exactly the same thing, or exactly the same source. The return of the Mahdi , Christian Zionism and Cabalistic Jewish mythology are all the same. It is indeed likely that both Islamic and Christian movements where funded by those Jewish sources. Does anyone suspect that Rothschild or Oppenheimer banking families just might read Jewish scriptures and make it come to pass? The rise of Jewish Zionist wealth eclipsed other Jews at around the same time Millenialist movements like Mormons and JWs and break away Christian Zionist movements occurred in the 19th century. All linked to Free Masonic influences. The Mizrachi movement of Orthodox Zionism also appeared soon after(Jewish Orthodoxy was vehemently opposed to Zionism).

Historical Christianity for centuries knew the end times was in the 1st century AD. Christians had every opportunity to join in the Zionist movement but where told to flee. They had the opportunity again in the Simon Ben Kosiba revolt a generation later. They did not. The main conflict in Judiasm and Christianity has been the location of the Kingdom. When Christ failed to deliver an earthly Kingdom he was rejected. Had Christ freed Jews from the Romans, He would have been there Messiah.


Christian Zionism and Islamic Apocalyptic myth is a corruption of misinterpreted and corrupt Cabalistic Judaism.

Read it here in the Talmud.

http://www.come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_97.html

ur Rabbis taught: in the seven year cycle at the end of which the son of David will come-in the first year, this verse will be fulfilled: And I will cause it to rain upon one city and cause it not to rain upon another city;2 in the second, the arrows of hunger will be sent forth;3 in the third, a great famine, in the course of which men, women, and children, pious men and saints4 will die, and the Torah will be forgotten by its students; in the fourth, partial plenty;5 in the fifth, great plenty, when men will eat, drink and rejoice, and the Torah will return to its disciples; in the sixth, [Heavenly] sounds;6 in the seventh, wars; and at the conclusion of the septennate the son of David will come. R. Joseph demurred: But so many septennates have passed, yet has he not come! — Abaye retorted: Were there then [Heavenly] sounds in the sixth and wars in the seventh! Moreover, have they [sc. the troubles] been in this order7 !

Christianity is very plain about when these last days occurred.

Acts 2

14 But Peter, standing with the eleven, raised his voice and addressed them: ‘Men of Judea and all who live in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and listen to what I say. 15Indeed, these are not drunk, as you suppose, for it is only nine o’clock in the morning. 16No, this is what was spoken through the prophet Joel:
17“In the last days it will be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams.
18Even upon my slaves, both men and women,
in those days I will pour out my Spirit;
and they shall prophesy.
19And I will show portents in the heaven above
and signs on the earth below,
blood, and fire, and smoky mist.
20The sun shall be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood,
before the coming of the Lord’s great and glorious day.
21Then everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

There are those that are Christians that read old testament scriptures and ignore that stated fulfillment in NT scriptures. So I would say Christian Zionism and the Islamic Mahdi , are equally outside the Christian scriptures.

 

[Micah68]

What you say about Christianity is absolutely correct- it is a religion that time and time again teaches us to love God and to love our neighbour. Christians throughout the ages have strayed from that message, and justified all sorts of heinous things, but that doesn't change what the Bible teaches.

But my understanding of Islam is that it is not like that at all. Although some may claim that Muslims want peace, the Koran teaches otherwise- kill the infidels is the message that I see, and the majority of Muslims in places like Iraq, Iran and Pakistan seem to believe that, despite what you may hear in the West where that type of threat is unlawful.

Islam started 600 years after Jesus delivered his message of peace and salvation. It rejected the teachings of the Bible and instead embraced the ideas of one man, Muhammed, who claimed that he had received a different message from God- a message that allowed the killing of infidels, polygamy, and pedophilia, among other things; practices that the Bible and Christians utterly reject.

The Biblical message of love, peace and salvation through Jesus Christ has stood, unchanged, the test of over 2000 years of time. The Bible is the inspired Word of God, but was written by a large number of independent-thinking disciples, many of whom saw and lived with Jesus first-hand, and didn't base their ideas on the claims of one man who maintains he received a new vision directly from God. It has never condoned murder, sexual immorality, etc.; its principles of conduct have stood firm since time immemorial.

Others can believe what they want- but I will stick with Jesus.

I wonder how a non-Christian, someone who knows nothing at all about the Bible, would react to some of the things in the OT? The Quran the same as the Bible must be read in the context and time it was written. Historically, it is said that, the first Muslims were conservative Christians disgusted with what had become of the church. I have very close friends who are Muslim and I can honestly say there is more in common with our religions than naught, this includes our extrmists. Respect is a two way street, if we refuse to give respect why should we expect to get respect? We can respectfully agree or disagree.


Luke 6:37 “Do 118 not judge, 119 and you will not be judged; 120 do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; forgive, 121 and you will be forgiven. 6:38 Give, and it will be given to you: A good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, 122 will be poured 123 into your lap. For the measure you use will be the measure you receive.” 124

 

[gwynedd1]

What you say about Christianity is absolutely correct- it is a religion that time and time again teaches us to love God and to love our neighbour. Christians throughout the ages have strayed from that message, and justified all sorts of heinous things, but that doesn't change what the Bible teaches.

But my understanding of Islam is that it is not like that at all. Although some may claim that Muslims want peace, the Koran teaches otherwise- kill the infidels is the message that I see, and the majority of Muslims in places like Iraq, Iran and Pakistan seem to believe that, despite what you may hear in the West where that type of threat is unlawful.

Islam started 600 years after Jesus delivered his message of peace and salvation. It rejected the teachings of the Bible and instead embraced the ideas of one man, Muhammed, who claimed that he had received a different message from God- a message that allowed the killing of infidels, polygamy, and pedophilia, among other things; practices that the Bible and Christians utterly reject.

The Biblical message of love, peace and salvation through Jesus Christ has stood, unchanged, the test of over 2000 years of time. The Bible is the inspired Word of God, but was written by a large number of independent-thinking disciples, many of whom saw and lived with Jesus first-hand, and didn't base their ideas on the claims of one man who maintains he received a new vision directly from God. It has never condoned murder, sexual immorality, etc.; its principles of conduct have stood firm since time immemorial.

Others can believe what they want- but I will stick with Jesus.

Hello Servant222;,

Context is very important. So is knowing what is in our scriptures. Do you suppose this need explanation? What might someone who reads only the Torah think? We Christians have been apprised to the new but has everyone? Might Christians also be accused?

Deuteronomy 7

When the Lord your God brings you into the land that you are about to enter and occupy, and he clears away many nations before you—the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations mightier and more numerous than you— 2and when the Lord your God gives them over to you and you defeat them, then you must utterly destroy them. Make no covenant with them and show them no mercy. 3Do not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons, 4for that would turn away your children from following me, to serve other gods. Then the anger of the Lord would be kindled against you, and he would destroy you quickly. 5But this is how you must deal with them: break down their altars, smash their pillars, hew down their sacred poles,* and burn their idols with fire. 6For you are a people holy to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on earth to be his people, his treasured possession.

 

[Servant222]

One good way to examine a religion's credibility is to look at its roots- who started it, and how did it start.

Another test is to determine whether a religion's beliefs had to change to keep up with changing times.

In the case of the Christianity, it started with God, was preached by a multitude of independently-minded disciples, has remained essentially unchanged for thousands of year, and has not had to make convenient changes to keep up with changing times.

There is a big difference between being judgmental, and pointing out the attributes in a religion that detract from its credibility.

 

[Micah68]

One good way to examine a religion's credibility is to look at its roots- who started it, and how did it start.

Another test is to determine whether a religion's beliefs had to change to keep up with changing times.

In the case of the Christianity, it started with God, was preached by a multitude of independently-minded disciples, has remained essentially unchanged for thousands of year, and has not had to make convenient changes to keep up with changing times.

There is a big difference between being judgmental, and pointing out the attributes in a religion that detract from its credibility.

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I'm not seeing much difference between today's mainstream religious leaders and those of the days of Christ......judgemental, legalistic, conditional, exclusive, political, etc. nope no difference really. Shame we can't just 'Love one another' with out all the conditions.

 

[Servant222]

But the important thing is that Christianity has remained consistent from the very beginning. The commandment in the New Testament to love God and love your neighbour hasn't changed.

The commandments not to murder, steal, lie, commit adultery, etc. also haven't changed and no one that claims to be a Christian can ever justify doing those things.

So a religion that doesn't subscribe to those principles is not of God, and therefore must be of satan. And a person who unrepentingly justifies murder, lieing, etc. is also not a servant of God, but is a soldier of the devil.