What the data say about police brutality and racial bias — and which reforms might work

[SummerMadness]

Your responses have so little substance, I think the most likely explanation is that you are desperately trying to bluff your way out of the corner you painted yourself into.

Sure thing, whatever floats your boat.

 

[Hank77]

The link you just posted is a white supremacist website. Enjoy reading about the evils of the Jews...

What do you say about the two founders of BLM being Marxists and particularly Patrisse Cullars?

 

[SummerMadness]

What do you say about the two founders of BLM being Marxists and particularly Patrisse Cullars?

I don't think it is all that relevant. Since it's a movement, it doesn't really matter who founded it, especially since it is decentralized and not subject to one leader. I think these days there is too much effort placed into who started a hashtag, as if that matters. Here's a question, who started the Civil Rights Movement? It wasn't Martin Luther King, Jr., Rosa Parks, Malcolm X or Stokey Carmichael. If you think about a movement, the "founder" is less important than those who become more organized and influential in moving the movement forward, or as in this case, getting police reform on the agenda across the nation. Starting a hashtag is simply that, starting a hashtag, viral fame is not the same as leadership, something I think the news media needs to better understand. But given Twitter is new, it's understandable they think that is important.

 

[Hank77]

I don't think it is all that relevant. Since it's a movement, it doesn't really matter who founded it, especially since it is decentralized and not subject to one leader.

I think it is relevant. The movement against police use of excessive force, a reorganization of what the police should be expected to do and shouldn't be expected to do and a reorganization of how funding is distributed is one thing but Black Lives Matter is something else when people, in general, are seeing them as the organizers and driving force.
In my opinion, BLM should not be allowed to gain power from the support for police reform. We don't need Marxists deciding how our nation's police force will be run.

 

[Lord Give Me A Sign]

Truthfully i dont need to see any data to know whats going on. Ive spent enough time in the streets to see how toxic of an environment it is especially for kids that have to grow up in it. If your not familiar with the streets and live on a farm or a nice residential area its hard to know whats going on

When your living in a nice middle class or upper class neighborhood much of what you see in politics, on tv and in music is pushing the American dream while conditioning people to think there are no racial inequalities

Some folks are flat out racist and take pride in it. But this doesnt sum up everyone. Some people are conditioned to not know about the 2nd class society many blacks live in. I see a big lack of compassion and sympathy on here, and i see others using sarcasm and making a mockery of the situation

 

[disciple Clint]

I don't think it is all that relevant. Since it's a movement, it doesn't really matter who founded it, especially since it is decentralized and not subject to one leader. I think these days there is too much effort placed into who started a hashtag, as if that matters. Here's a question, who started the Civil Rights Movement? It wasn't Martin Luther King, Jr., Rosa Parks, Malcolm X or Stokey Carmichael. If you think about a movement, the "founder" is less important than those who become more organized and influential in moving the movement forward, or as in this case, getting police reform on the agenda across the nation. Starting a hashtag is simply that, starting a hashtag, viral fame is not the same as leadership, something I think the news media needs to better understand. But given Twitter is new, it's understandable they think that is important.

It is not accurate to say that BLM is "especially since it is decentralized and not subject to one leader" follow the money that is being donated to BLM by corporations, someone is in charge and cashing the checks, try to play the no one is responsible game is just not going to work.

 

[disciple Clint]

Sure thing, whatever floats your boat.

Is that how you defend your posts, do you expect anyone to take them seriously if you dont?

 

[JustSomeBloke]

Is that how you defend your posts, do you expect anyone to take them seriously if you dont?

Everything started unravelling for SummerMadness when they tried to dismiss peer-reviewed research as 'racism'. I have experience of working in academia, so I know a lot about how research is done, how it is assessed for scientific rigour, and how it is published and responded to by the wider scientific community. My previous posts here are good evidence that I have all of that knowledge and experience.

Compare that to SummerMadness, who makes increasingly brief responses, most likely because they realised that the more they say, the more it will reveal that their claims do not sound plausible. In the process of attempting to dig themself out of the hole they created, they are simply exposing themself as having tried to bluff their way through the debate with no real knowledge of scientific data or research.

SummerMadness, it you're still reading, I recommend you drop your ideological viewpoints and dogma, and check out the published research. It may be painful in the short term, but it's for the best in the long run.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Intraracial crime among black people is not special compared to intraracial crime by white people.

Special? No. Disproportionately high? Yes.

 

[SummerMadness]

Everything started unravelling for SummerMadness when they tried to dismiss peer-reviewed research as 'racism'. I have experience of working in academia, so I know a lot about how research is done, how it is assessed for scientific rigour, and how it is published and responded to by the wider scientific community. My previous posts here are good evidence that I have all of that knowledge and experience.

I did not dismiss peer-reviewed work as racist, I dismiss the website that concocts a story from peer-reviewed data to make racist arguments like Jews controlling government, race and IQ pronouncements, and other pseudoscientific arguments based on the data. But enjoy, if that's what you like.