What Side Are You On?

[Arcangl86]

You hold a Freemason membership but you post on a Christain forum? Why?

Because I'm a Christian?

And, even if what you say is true, which one can verify, why do you think you are privy to what others with whom you do not know are doing?

Because I have served as a dais officer for several different bodies in Masonry. If there was something going on, I would be part of it.

 

[RDKirk]

@ViaCrucis

I just have one simple question to ask.

Do you think it's impossible or unlikely that the rich and powerful in this world may meet and congregate together and work towards similar end goals? Or is such communication migled with common interest a conspiracy theory?

Thanks

Rich and powerful people do communicate, but not specifically because "we're all rich and powerful here."

There is OPEC for instance, an overt collection of rich and powerful people who determine how they will manage oil production. Leaders of the banking industry have their golf outings and 3-martini lunches together. Those are coinciding interests beyond merely being "rich and powerful."

 

[RDKirk]

Your question to me makes no sense, because I did not write the books. And I know nothing about the developers its the native people of Maui who reportedly have a beef with these developers. I am simply posting what I am finding whether it be books that suddenly make an appearance with a prefabricated narrative before all said informaton is in while also listening to the many people online giving their testimonies.

Most individuals in Hawaii have a beef with developers, not just the native people.

Up until the 80s, most of the land in Hawaii was owned by the government (federal and state) and twelve major corporations (if you go back in Hawaii history, you find those corporations began as American businessmen in the 1800s). Most individuals did not own land...they were "leaseholders" who had, typically, a 50-year lease on the lots that they built their homes on. At some point in the 80s, Hawaii passed a law that required those major corporate landowners to divest those lots as the leasehold contracts expired.

The unintended consequence, however, is that Hawaii is still an island state, and as such land will always be absurdly expensive. It was often too expensive for the leaseholders to buy outright when the leaseholds expired.

Corporation: "Your leasehold is up at the end of the year. The fair market value of your lot is $1,000,000. According to the new law, someone has to buy it from us. Will you be ready to buy it at that time?"

Hawaii resident making only $50K a year and living paycheck to paycheck: "Umm. No."

That's where and how the developers came in.

 

[RDKirk]

Are you talking about this sort of thing?

I would point out that a cabinet is of appointed officials for the term of a particular administration.

 

[RDKirk]

Walls are being built around Lahaina, the press is kept out, and drones are not allowed. This is what they do not want people to see. Does this picture make any sense to you? Now tell us how we are not at war...

Who owns the house with the red roof?

Owned by a woman who is the "Strategic Campaign Director for the SEIU (government employees union nationwide) in California.

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So, who owns these other buildings that were spared destruction?

That does not indicate anything nefarious. There are other pictures of Lahaina showing buildings here and there seemingly untouched by the fires, such as this one that shows several such buildings.

https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox.../764/432/GettyImages-1590312694.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

And also this one:

https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox...932/524/Wildfires-damage-Hawaii.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

 

[Fireinfolding]

Most individuals in Hawaii have a beef with developers, not just the native people.

Up until the 80s, most of the land in Hawaii was owned by the government (federal and state) and twelve major corporations (if you go back in Hawaii history, you find those corporations began as American businessmen in the 1800s). Most individuals did not own land...they were "leaseholders" who had, typically, a 50-year lease on the lots that they built their homes on. At some point in the 80s, Hawaii passed a law that required those major corporate landowners to divest those lots as the leasehold contracts expired.

The unintended consequence, however, is that Hawaii is still an island state, and as such land will always be absurdly expensive. It was often too expensive for the leaseholders to buy outright when the leaseholds expired.

Corporation: "Your leasehold is up at the end of the year. The fair market value of your lot is $1,000,000. According to the new law, someone has to buy it from us. Will you be ready to buy it at that time?"

Hawaii resident making only $50K a year and living paycheck to paycheck: "Umm. No."

That's where and how the developers came in.

That is some good information to look into, I apreciate that, thank you RDKirk, do you have any links where you have gathered some of this information, I would be interested in givving this a good look over, it would be helpful.

 

[RDKirk]

That is some good information to look into, I apreciate that, thank you RDKirk, do you have any links where you have gathered some of this information, I would be interested in givving this a good look over, it would be helpful.

I was in Hawaii watching it happen.

 

[Fireinfolding]

I was in Hawaii watching it happen.

Okay, so where would some of this information be at though, there has to be some stories on this. Do you know where I would even begin to look. Not that I do not believe you but to have decent sources in matter.

I always try to give my husband (when he gets home) something to look over when sharing any opinion I might have on things and this is of great interest to him as well. It would just be helpful if you knew where I would look when it comes to this matter.

Its okay if you do not, I can give it a go on my own.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Better yet RDKirk, why don't you create a thread on this? Since its kind of a hot topic given the circumstances. That at least will bring some clarity and some open discussion on this.

 

[RDKirk]

Okay, so where would some of this information be at though, there has to be some stories on this. Do you know where I would even begin to look. Not that I do not believe you but to have decent sources in matter.

I always try to give my husband (when he gets home) something to look over when sharing any opinion I might have on things and this is of great interest to him as well. It would just be helpful if you knew where I would look when it comes to this matter.

Its okay if you do not, I can give it a go on my own.

Hawaii newspaper business articles from the early 90s, perhaps.

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

You hold a Freemason membership but you post on a Christain forum? Why?
And, even if what you say is true, which one can verify, why do you think you are privy to what others with whom you do not know are doing?

I'm not a Freemason as my church frowns upon membership.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Have any of you been hearing anything on this Tenerife smart island initiative?

I dont reccognize the links, someone posted the info in a video showing info on this and there are a bunch of links when you search them (I use duckduckgo when I searched). The reason I ask is because they are being evacuated because of a raging fire but plans for making it a smart city has been reported to be as far back as 2019. Supposedly, I and this is one of the reasons I asked for more info on Maui to compare some things, Tenerife and Maui had to give a yes or no by August 17 and both are on fire and I wanted to be sure I have those facts straight.

Thousands evacuated as Tenerife's fire rages on

MSN

 

[Page Poet]

I wrote above that the people on the right side of the tree diagram just come out and tell everyone what they are planning to do. Some naysayers take this as theory. Here Klaus Schwab, a WEF conspirator who wants to destroy free humanity, wants to remove God from influence (that will never happen though) says "... we don't even need elections anymore..."

https://www.b/itchute.com/video/04HH075l5qiY/ (after www, remove the / after the b and the link will work.

 

[timothyu]

The Plan is to make as many people broke as possible so these people come begging to the state for food and shelter

Own nothing and be happy

 

[timothyu]

Rich and powerful people do communicate, but not specifically because "we're all rich and powerful here."

There is OPEC for instance, an overt collection of rich and powerful people who determine how they will manage oil production. Leaders of the banking industry have their golf outings and 3-martini lunches together. Those are coinciding interests beyond merely being "rich and powerful."

Which is why corporatism as a global unelected government is logical.

 

[Page Poet]

Which is why corporatism as a global unelected government is logical.

The extremely weathy collude and make plans to keep their positions of extreme, unearned wealth. The money printers don't earn their positions they are all hereiditary and criminal. It is these are a bent on destroying humanity just to maintain their positions of dominance and nearly unlimited abundance.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

MELTED METAL ROOF PANELS.

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

MOWED GRASS MELTED IRON POST 3 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND?

 

[EclipseEventSigns]

UNCOVERED VEHICLES WERE TOASTED. COVERED VEHICLE WAS NOT.