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Sorry but Corporatism has been eroding the independence of man for a century and a half. Slow is less noticeable. All governments now bow to this unelected global power. No conspiracy there, just the culmination of a long evolving business model based on Mammon.

There's no secret cabal of villains.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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There's no secret cabal of villains.

-CryptoLutheran
Correct: the cabals are not secret they are very open and outspoken and reveal to us what they are trying to do to most of humanity all the time. We can't post much here because it is restricted but there are many platforms out there and anyone can listen to the leaders of the wealthy cults proclaim what their intentions are.
 
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There's no secret cabal of villains.
No there isn't any more. They are quite open about their agenda as Corporatism has evolved to the point where it is seemingly unstoppable. Only the people can put an end to the madness but they are too busy fighting amongst self to bother. No wonder the end of days was predicted to have a global leader, something never before had.
Oh and fear using business models such as sustainable development to create more economic advantage is hardly anything newer than yet another industrial revolution. We are now entering the newest one where people will be convinced by the spin doctors that amalgamation of flesh and digitalization is the future of humankind, or more correctly the end of humans as we've known them.
 
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That will lead you to it eventually. "Their" agenda is to control everyone and keep the power they have by holding onto the money manufacturing machine. Beyond that, "they" want to depopulate the world -you must know what that means.

Is it time for spin the wheel? Who is "they" this time. Is it the Jews? Lizard people? The Vatican? Free Masons? Maybe it's aliens. Or maybe it's Darth Vader. Who knows.

This time on
Wheel
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Crazy.

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Correct: the cabals are not secret they are very open and outspoken and reveal to us what they are trying to do to most of humanity all the time. We can't post much here because it is restricted but there are many platforms out there and anyone can listen to the leaders of the wealthy cults proclaim what their intentions are.

Is it Q-Anon? Is that the hot steamy dog turd garbage you're trying to peddle here?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Corporatism.. the global government, a corporate alliance of leaders, finance and business, the build back better mob

Isn't it possible that there are bad people and there are good people and there are in-between people at all levels of finance, governance, business, and other social structures--and because there are competing interests good things don't often get done, but sometimes they do, and sometimes people have good intentions but bad execution; and sometimes people have bad intentions and also bad execution; and sometimes it's just all so very messy because human beings are really messy. You know, sinners.

There's no great and powerful Wizard of Oz, no Illuminati, no lizard people. It's just people.

And rather than trying to play a silly game of connect the dots to create an all-encompassing theory of why everything is wrong, the Scriptures themselves tell us plainly why everything is wrong.

"For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." - Romans 3:23

So rather than living terrified that everything going on is actually some secret puppet master pulling the strings in the background. We actually can, you know, engage as stewards, servants, disciples of Jesus and address the practical and real problems of real people right in our midst. And so, for example, social engagement for the good of our neighbor is, in fact, a good thing. We may not always agree on the precise ways of doing that, but we can offer our engagement through various means.

I don't have to believe that the UN's 17 goals toward sustainability is some secret evil plot. But a good-intentioned attempt to improve people's lives. I can be realistic about it--that lofty goals are difficult to achieve. But that doesn't mean I should be opposed to efforts to improve the life of my neighbor.

I should desire that my neighbor has access to clean drinking water.
I should desire that my neighbor has access to plenty of food.
I should desire that my neighbor has access to medical care.
I should desire that my neighbor prospers in a state of peace rather than violent conflict.

To live with the mindset that if someone says, "I want to help someone" we should assume the worst about them is a bleak and awful mental state to occupy.

I am Christ's disciple. A citizen of the kingdom of God. My job, here on this planet, is to follow Jesus by loving my neighbor and sharing the good news of Christ, for God has invaded our world and set the kingdom of darkness to ruin. Christ has conquered hell. There is forgiveness of sin, peace with God, righteousness from God as a free gift, and the promise of resurrection and eternal life--for God has promised to set all things to rights by His Son whom He appointed Heir of all things.

And so I see my hurting neighbor, and by the grace of God and the power of God I have empathy toward my neighbor and desire that my neighbor should not dwell in agony, but prosper in peace. And to seek the best possible outcomes for human life this side of the Eschaton--knowing that "in this world [we] will have trouble", but trusting "but take heart, [Christ] has conquered the world" and so in Christ we labor, knowing that our labors in Him shall not be in vain.

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And so I see my hurting neighbor, and by the grace of God and the power of God I have empathy toward my neighbor and desire that my neighbor should not dwell in agony, but prosper in peace. And to seek the best possible outcomes for human life this side of the Eschaton--knowing that "in this world [we] will have trouble", but trusting "but take heart, [Christ] has conquered the world" and so in Christ we labor, knowing that our labors in Him shall not be in vain.
Absolutely but the Adversary has yet to make it's final power play, and throughout history it has only taken a few to disrupt the lives of the many..
 
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ViaCrucis:
You are intently blind or just playing? What's the point in naysaying what anyone with eyes and ears can see? How many times do you have to be told about fake climate change, techno "smart cities" with Chinese-type techno control, human chipping and tracking, vaccines and all the fake poisonous drugs that sometimes mask symptons but always poison, lies upon lies about history, lies about banking and finance, fake "natural" forest fires 100x natural events, trans tyranny, child mutilation, and so and so on and so on before you get the picture?
Don't tell us nothing is planned when EVERYTHING that is happening was planned and revealed BEFORE it happened including the fake plandemic of the mythical covaids virus that governments around the world admitted they had no proof exists? How long will you keep your head in the sand and just deny what the very people that have the power to do all of these wrongs against humanity tell us they are going to do and then do them?

You have to do a little bit of work to find out the truth. Christ does not want us to be blind and weak while evil runs over us. If you are getting what you think is truth from the old TV media all you are getting is deception and lies -and verifiable lies. I can show thousands of sources but if you won't think and examine and discover critically there is no use in even putting one link up.
 
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Maui, that has no forests, has a "forest fire". Why was Maui burned? Oh, the plans are to make Maui a "smart island". WEF plan. Can't make this up:


But some people just keep on believing the lies and we are telling tales...
 
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ViaCrucis:
You are intently blind or just playing? What's the point in naysaying what anyone with eyes and ears can see? How many times do you have to be told about fake climate change,

Climate change isn't fake. It's plainly obvious to anyone who cares about truth that human-caused climate change is real.

techno "smart cities" with Chinese-type techno control,

I have no idea what "Chinese-type techno control" is.

human chipping and tracking,

Is something I don't see happening. I'm sure some have voluntarily done it, but it's hardly a thing--and not something I think most people are keen on. At the very least, nobody is being forced to get a chip implanted in them. So I consider fear about it to be misplaced.

vaccines and all the fake poisonous drugs that sometimes mask symptons but always poison,

Vaccines have a proven track record of saving lives. Anti-vax nonsense is nonsense and will always be nonsense.

lies upon lies about history,

Give an example.

lies about banking and finance,

Give an example.

fake "natural" forest fires 100x natural events

I'm not sure how forest fires are fake. The causes of any given fire might have any number of causes, from the totally natural (lightning) to people being stupid. But they certainly aren't fake forest fires.

, trans tyranny,

Not a thing.

child mutilation,

Give examples.

and so and so on and so on before you get the picture?

No, I only know that you believe some very silly things.

Don't tell us nothing is planned when EVERYTHING that is happening was planned and revealed BEFORE it happened including the fake plandemic of the mythical covaids virus that governments around the world admitted they had no proof exists?

Having known people that had COVID I can assure you it was quite real.

How long will you keep your head in the sand and just deny what the very people that have the power to do all of these wrongs against humanity tell us they are going to do and then do them?

You have to do a little bit of work to find out the truth.

Then do that instead of believing this junk.

Christ does not want us to be blind and weak while evil runs over us.If you are getting what you think is truth from the old TV media all you are getting is deception and lies -and verifiable lies. I can show thousands of sources but if you won't think and examine and discover critically there is no use in even putting one link up.

I'm not interested in whatever it is you're selling.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Climate change isn't fake. It's plainly obvious to anyone who cares about truth that human-caused climate change is real.



I have no idea what "Chinese-type techno control" is.



Is something I don't see happening. I'm sure some have voluntarily done it, but it's hardly a thing--and not something I think most people are keen on. At the very least, nobody is being forced to get a chip implanted in them. So I consider fear about it to be misplaced.



Vaccines have a proven track record of saving lives. Anti-vax nonsense is nonsense and will always be nonsense.



Give an example.



Give an example.



I'm not sure how forest fires are fake. The causes of any given fire might have any number of causes, from the totally natural (lightning) to people being stupid. But they certainly aren't fake forest fires.



Not a thing.



I've heard anti-semites say that circumcision is child mutilation, so I'm hoping that's not what you are referring to.

You'll need to expand on that.



I understand that you believe a lot of dumb things. Yes. I don't.



Having known people that had COVID I can assure you it was quite real.



Then do that instead of believing all this junk.



No, Christ wants us wise as serpents and gentle as doves. And St. Paul tells us that we have not been given a spirit of fear, but a spirit of sober-mindedness.





I'm not interested in whatever it is you're selling. I don't buy what grifters sell. I'm a Christian, not a sucker.

-CryptoLutheran
Keep your eyes tightly shut and your ears closed. I am a Christian also but I'm no sucker. I can post thousands of pieces of evidence, all you can continue to write is "I don't believe". Well, if you don't want to verify anything you know what you can do.
 
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Just for fun:

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Climate change isn't fake. It's plainly obvious to anyone who cares about truth that human-caused climate change is real.

Ha ha ha. You know you really shouldn't be posting this if you haven't seen the data showing of verifiable recorded temperatures during the 20th century, and you should find out just how much carbon dioxide makes up of our atmospher. I won't show you the way you have to put the work in. I will let you go on though it is quite unfortunate you seek to mock yourself.


"I have no idea what "Chinese-type techno control" is."

If you really don't know by know how the Chinese state controls and tracks Chinese citizens with a prison of technology, like facial recognition and hundreds of other means, then you should probably not beat your chest about it because it is what is being planned and slowly implemented in the West. But you don't even want to know this so why post here when you have made it clear what side you are on or will end up?
 
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Maui, that has no forests, has a "forest fire". Why was Maui burned? Oh, the plans are to make Maui a "smart island". WEF plan. Can't make this up:


But some people just keep on believing the lies and we are telling tales...
Uh, Maui has plenty of forest. But even if that wasn't the case, the wildfires (I can't find anybody calling them "forest fires" but you) were started by grass, not trees, like many wildfires.
 
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Uh, Maui has plenty of forest. But even if that wasn't the case, the wildfires (I can't find anybody calling them "forest fires" but you) were started by grass, not trees, like many wildfires.
It was not a natural fire. A grass fire does not burn down a town. We have 100s of grass fires every day and they are controllable. House fires are controllable. Entire neighborhoods do not burn down. That is just the main steam narrative. We must be more critical than merely believing what is told knowing that the money media is a lie factory. The money makers and their henchmen planned for Maui to be a "Smart City" island. It was a DEW attack. Here's a video that can lead to facts which you can verify yourself. You can go check published statements by Maui and Hawaii officials for example.

https://www.[bless and do not curse... and do not curse]ute.com/video/T5gIdY7TeoTf/
 
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