What should I do?

[3Princessmom]

I have a question for all of you. Dh and I haven't made a complete decision to become a Quiverfull family just yet. My bc will be running out in just a few days now, and we know I'm not going on anything else for bc because I'm simply not able to.

BUT, here's my question, I have a health condition that cause me to miscarry (or a greatly increased risk of it) if I am not on a pill called glucophage. The medicine is not a hormone or a fertility drug. It is actually a medication for diabetes. But with my condition it does seem to give an increased chance of pregnancy, which we aren't try for. If God gives us a child, we will welcome it with open arms - but we aren't trying for one on our own. (My youngest is only 4 months old) I got pregnant just a few months before going on this medication and lost the baby, I don't want this to ever happen again.

So we don't want to try for a child, and starting the medicine would give me a pretty darn good chance of getting pregnant. (last time I was only on it one month before getting pregnant!) But if I do get pregnant, and I'm not on the medicine, I have a pretty good chance of losing the baby due to this condition. So what do I do?

God did give me 2 girls before I even knew I had the condition, and I was not on the medication when I ghot pregnant with them. I just don't want to lose another baby.

 

[RoseofLima]

Do you know anything at all about charting your cycle? Or how to tell if you are fertile or not? You could work with your body- abstaining during your fertile times??

Check out this site- maybe it will be of some help : http://www.billings-centre.ab.ca/

 

[RedTulipMom]

If your youngest is 4 mos old..your body still needs some healing time before being ready to carry another child. Using something like NFP, charting your cycles, abstaining during your fertile days would be your best bet for awhile till your ready for the next one. As far as the glucophage, it sounds like you need to take it or your chances for miscarrying are pretty high..i have heard of this. If you are abstaining and using something like NFP in order to not get pregnant right now, then you probably dont need to be on the glucophage just yet. Maybe go on it when you are again TRYING to get pregnant. I am not a doctor, this is just MY opinion. Maybe talk further with your doctor

 

[CelticRose]

Are you still breastfeeding? This helps inhibit fertility but you must have one night feed happening & it's not a guarrentee. However my cycle never returned until I had stopped all feeds which always gave me a clear 12 - 18 months. Everyone is different though & I know plenty of women for whom this hasn't worked at all.

 

[3Princessmom]

Well, we aren't ever really going to try for another one. That is totally up to God. I do know that if I get pregnant within the next year to year and a half I will be forced to have another c-section. With my last baby I was forced to have an emergency c-section (my first ever) after 30 hours of labor and 20 minutes of pushing, she was going into distress and the doctor didn't want to risk it.

I do know how to chart my cycles, that's how we got pregnant. I suffered with infertility for 2 years and was charting almost the whole time - so I'm practically a charting expert! In the past I did try to use my knowledge for NFP, but unsuccessfully. That is the pregnancy where I miscarried.

Looking back now though, I guess I can't say I miscarried 100% positively because I wasn't on the glucophage. I had what I thought was the start of my cycle, and I started the bc pill (when I would've been 8weeks along). I found out a month later when I miscarried that I had been pregnant. But it is all debateable - I might have lost it anyway since I was bleeding. Who knows, I'll still never forgive myself for starting the pill.

But anyway, my body seems to work funny. The last cycle when I got pregnant with my last daughter we should have missed my fertile days by 5 days! We knew for sure, because of our timing, that I wasn't going to get pregnant. And lo and behold, I gave birth in June! So that doesn't seem to work too well for us.

I'm not breastfeeding at all. I had a lot of trouble mentally with that and had to stop. I am very happy for any woman who can do it, I just couldn't handle it.

Still not sure what to do,maybe just pray and put all my trust in God. He gave me two girls without ever having to be on the med, I suppose if He wants us to have another one He can do it again!

 

[ACADEMIC]

Well, we aren't ever really going to try for another one. That is totally up to God.

In the way God has set up reproduction and proceation to work, no pregnancy is ever "totally up to God." Continual providential conception is not a Biblical idea.

Not even Christ's maraculous conception in Mary was "totally up to God". It required Mary's cooperation, per Luke 1:38.

You know the biology of how pregnancy works. If you have relations near ovulation you will likely become pregnant. That's how God set things up. If it is not wise for you to become pregnant, then it is wise and responsible for you to take measures to prevent it. That also is how God set things up.

 

[RoseofLima]

Well, we aren't ever really going to try for another one. That is totally up to God. I do know that if I get pregnant within the next year to year and a half I will be forced to have another c-section. With my last baby I was forced to have an emergency c-section (my first ever) after 30 hours of labor and 20 minutes of pushing, she was going into distress and the doctor didn't want to risk it.

I do know how to chart my cycles, that's how we got pregnant. I suffered with infertility for 2 years and was charting almost the whole time - so I'm practically a charting expert! In the past I did try to use my knowledge for NFP, but unsuccessfully. That is the pregnancy where I miscarried.

Looking back now though, I guess I can't say I miscarried 100% positively because I wasn't on the glucophage. I had what I thought was the start of my cycle, and I started the bc pill (when I would've been 8weeks along). I found out a month later when I miscarried that I had been pregnant. But it is all debateable - I might have lost it anyway since I was bleeding. Who knows, I'll still never forgive myself for starting the pill.

But anyway, my body seems to work funny. The last cycle when I got pregnant with my last daughter we should have missed my fertile days by 5 days! We knew for sure, because of our timing, that I wasn't going to get pregnant. And lo and behold, I gave birth in June! So that doesn't seem to work too well for us.

I'm not breastfeeding at all. I had a lot of trouble mentally with that and had to stop. I am very happy for any woman who can do it, I just couldn't handle it.

Still not sure what to do,maybe just pray and put all my trust in God. He gave me two girls without ever having to be on the med, I suppose if He wants us to have another one He can do it again!

Check out the Billings website if you have time- it is scientifically impossible to get pregnant without the presence of fertile mucous. If you learn to discern the presence of that mucous at the vulva - and how to distinguish it from whatever your Basic In fertile Pattern is, you could have pretty good sucess. If you have days of questinable fertility- you are supposed to abstain for that day +3 days before peak. The fertile mucous can occur 5 days before peak for sure...and it keeps the sperm alive, that's it's job. And after peak it is important to wait until the 4th morning- because there might be a double ovulation- so you need to wait for both potential ovum to disintegrate before resuming relations.

To me Billings is very uncomplicated and straightforward--even when cycles are complicated. My heart goes out to you- and what great courage you are showing taking these steps

 

[3Princessmom]

Thank you everyone! I'm trying my hardest to do what's best for my family and listen to God.

Oh, and about the comment I made about it being totally up to God, I know we have to co-operate as well. But after we tried for two years timing everything perfectly for conception and we still didn't get preg until month 26 - I do believe it's totally up to God if He chooses to bless us again. If I got preg it would not pose any danger to my health or the baby's - just require another c-section.

My husband and I are both seeking God's wisdom in this area of our lives right now. Hopefully He will show us the way clearly. Thank you for all your help.