What Should I Do Ethically?

[Truly Blessed]

If I support a large “Christian” organization and found out the following:

1. The true goal of the organization is not to Glorify God but just to make the biggest organization possible under that pretense of glorify God just to stroke somebody’s ego.

2. The leadership, in private, fights amongst themselves. The 1st faction dams the 2d faction while the third faction comes in and dams the first two factions of the organization to Hades.

3. The leadership lies and will cover up for each others lies while at the same time damming the other person in a leadership role to Hades because s/he is of the other faction of the organization.

4. The organization that is to "Glorify God" allows, accepts, and looks the other way thereby condoning - murder, unbiblical beliefs, elicit sex.

5. The Leadership considers themselves better than everybody else which are just mere peasants.

6. Of course, there are the few within the leadership that truly want the organization to be what the organization was designed for - my hat is off to them and God Bless them.

Bonaparte waited until 2 December for his coronation where, with much pomp and ceremony,​

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Should I leave the organization or try to turn it around although I am not within the leadership of the organization nor will I probably ever be within the leadership of the organization?

 

[GodsNhilist]

If I support a large “Christian” organization and found out the following:

1. The true goal of the organization is not to Glorify God but just to make the biggest organization possible under that pretense of glorify God just to stroke somebody’s ego.

2. The leadership, in private, fights amongst themselves. The 1st faction dams the 2d faction while the third faction comes in and dams the first two factions of the organization to Hades.

3. The leadership lies and will cover up for each others lies while at the same time damming the other person in a leadership role to Hades because s/he is of the other faction of the organization.

4. The organization that is to "Glorify God" allows, accepts, and looks the other way thereby condoning - murder, unbiblical beliefs, elicit sex.

5. The Leadership considers themselves better than everybody else which are just mere peasants.

6. Of course, there are the few within the leadership that truly want the organization to be what the organization was designed for - my hat is off to them and God Bless them.

Bonaparte waited until 2 December for his coronation where, with much pomp and ceremony,​

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Should I leave the organization or try to turn it around although I am not within the leadership of the organization nor will I probably ever be within the leadership of the organization?

If you have the power and are involved at a high enough level it might be worth an attempt to turn it around. If not, get out. Run, do not pass go, do not collect $200 for passing Go.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

If I support a large “Christian” organization and found out the following:

1. The true goal of the organization is not to Glorify God but just to make the biggest organization possible under that pretense of glorify God just to stroke somebody’s ego.

2. The leadership, in private, fights amongst themselves. The 1st faction dams the 2d faction while the third faction comes in and dams the first two factions of the organization to Hades.

3. The leadership lies and will cover up for each others lies while at the same time damming the other person in a leadership role to Hades because s/he is of the other faction of the organization.

4. The organization that is to "Glorify God" allows, accepts, and looks the other way thereby condoning - murder, unbiblical beliefs, elicit sex.

5. The Leadership considers themselves better than everybody else which are just mere peasants.

6. Of course, there are the few within the leadership that truly want the organization to be what the organization was designed for - my hat is off to them and God Bless them.

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Should I leave the organization or try to turn it around although I am not within the leadership of the organization nor will I probably ever be within the leadership of the organization?

The parallels that can be drawn to a few organizations I can think of are ironic...

I don't have a clear cut answer. What I do have are generalities: Never tire in doing good, prayer for direction and self reflection.
Pending the results of the prayers... if you can grow and/or persevere while helping the organization, then it is an opportunity to serve God in it. If it is going to drive you down a path of embitterment, resentment or it is harming you spiritually, I would leave it even if it was for a short period of time. The main thing to remember is that it isn't on our shoulders to "fix" it, but it is our privilege to serve.
There is even hope in leaving such sad conditions to its own demise; perhaps in the valley of consequences in what is sown, realization and repentance will result. One could hope...

 

[GodsNhilist]

I can't believe we actually agree on something CC, LOL.

 

[kopilo]

Unless this organisation provides you with something you need to survive and you can not get anywhere else, I say leave it whilst you still can.

Also if this organisation has a lot of power and influence (and it also has your name), I would recommend be cautious to whom you talk about this organisation with.

Obiously this organisation runs at least a little against what you believe to be true, otherwise you would not be asking others what to do.

God be with you.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

I can't believe we actually agree on something CC, LOL.

I have moments.

I am sure we agree on a great deal.
It's when the topic is where a disagreement resides that it becomes... less than desirable (for lack of a better description).

 

[numberprophet]

illicit sex???

 

[12volt_man]

2. The leadership, in private, fights amongst themselves. The 1st faction dams the 2d faction while the third faction comes in and dams the first two factions of the organization to Hades.

Are you sure you're not a Baptist?

 

[Erock83]

If I support a large “Christian” organization and found out the following:

1. The true goal of the organization is not to Glorify God but just to make the biggest organization possible under that pretense of glorify God just to stroke somebody’s ego.

2. The leadership, in private, fights amongst themselves. The 1st faction dams the 2d faction while the third faction comes in and dams the first two factions of the organization to Hades.

3. The leadership lies and will cover up for each others lies while at the same time damming the other person in a leadership role to Hades because s/he is of the other faction of the organization.

4. The organization that is to "Glorify God" allows, accepts, and looks the other way thereby condoning - murder, unbiblical beliefs, elicit sex.

5. The Leadership considers themselves better than everybody else which are just mere peasants.

6. Of course, there are the few within the leadership that truly want the organization to be what the organization was designed for - my hat is off to them and God Bless them.

Bonaparte waited until 2 December for his coronation where, with much pomp and ceremony,​

[align=center]he crowned himself.[/align]

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Should I leave the organization or try to turn it around although I am not within the leadership of the organization nor will I probably ever be within the leadership of the organization?

This should help

I’m am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist, people liberate themselves.

--Che

 

[UberLutheran]

The parallels that can be drawn to a few organizations I can think of are ironic...

I don't have a clear cut answer. What I do have are generalities: Never tire in doing good, prayer for direction and self reflection.
Pending the results of the prayers... if you can grow and/or persevere while helping the organization, then it is an opportunity to serve God in it. If it is going to drive you down a path of embitterment, resentment or it is harming you spiritually, I would leave it even if it was for a short period of time. The main thing to remember is that it isn't on our shoulders to "fix" it, but it is our privilege to serve.
There is even hope in leaving such sad conditions to its own demise; perhaps in the valley of consequences in what is sown, realization and repentance will result. One could hope...

Are you sitting down?




I mean -- are you REALLY sitting down?




Good. You and I have actually just agreed on something. 100 percent, in fact!

 

[Truly Blessed]

illicit sex???

Yes, I was tired. And my spell checker accepted the word.

 

[Truly Blessed]

The parallels that can be drawn to a few organizations I can think of are ironic...

I don't have a clear cut answer. What I do have are generalities: Never tire in doing good, prayer for direction and self reflection.
Pending the results of the prayers... if you can grow and/or persevere while helping the organization, then it is an opportunity to serve God in it. If it is going to drive you down a path of embitterment, resentment or it is harming you spiritually, I would leave it even if it was for a short period of time. The main thing to remember is that it isn't on our shoulders to "fix" it, but it is our privilege to serve.
There is even hope in leaving such sad conditions to its own demise; perhaps in the valley of consequences in what is sown, realization and repentance will result. One could hope...

CC, you are correct.

I enjoy sharing and fellowshipping with the peasants. However, It drives me crazy to know the truth about the organization. embitterment and resentment is definitely abounding in my usual peaceful spirit (some might consider that not a true statement ). Yes, I have left the organization before for a short period of time only to return to the organization because I had missed my fellowshipping with people I care about.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

 

[Joykins]

Yes, I was tired. And my spell checker accepted the word.

I attempt to elicit sex from my husband every now and then and I am reassured now that I am doing nothing wrong

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

If I support a large “Christian” organization and found out the following:

1. The true goal of the organization is not to Glorify God but just to make the biggest organization possible under that pretense of glorify God just to stroke somebody’s ego.

2. The leadership, in private, fights amongst themselves. The 1st faction dams the 2d faction while the third faction comes in and dams the first two factions of the organization to Hades.

3. The leadership lies and will cover up for each others lies while at the same time damming the other person in a leadership role to Hades because s/he is of the other faction of the organization.

4. The organization that is to "Glorify God" allows, accepts, and looks the other way thereby condoning - murder, unbiblical beliefs, elicit sex.

5. The Leadership considers themselves better than everybody else which are just mere peasants.

6. Of course, there are the few within the leadership that truly want the organization to be what the organization was designed for - my hat is off to them and God Bless them.

When I found myself in this situation I became a site supporter elsewhere and never regretted it.

 

[Truly Blessed]

I attempt to elicit sex from my husband every now and then and I am reassured now that I am doing nothing wrong

Yes, yes, yes; discussion of seducing your husband or visa/versa is for a different thread - probably in the married fora .

 

[numberprophet]

Yes, I was tired. And my spell checker accepted the word.

spelling wasn't quite what i had in mind, more curious aout the circumstances.

 

[Truly Blessed]

illicit sex???

Yes, I was tired. And my spell checker accepted the word.

spelling wasn't quite what i had in mind, more curious aout the circumstances.

The circumstances regarding illicit sex ?

I would hope one might be more concerned about the dilemma or the overall issue that I myself and others deal with when confronted with this situation.

Granted God can use anything for His Glory regardless of the intentions of man.

 

[numberprophet]

so, you're not gonna tell me...

 

[kimber1]

When I found myself in this situation I became a site supporter elsewhere and never regretted it.

 

[kimber1]

to the OP:

forget the organisation, think of teh people IN the organisation. are they worht staying for? are they special enough to you adn do you feel you have the means to make a difference to the PEOPLE? if so, stay and be with the people but don't let the organisation as a whole pull you down