What "rights" do homosexuals "deserve" to have -- WITH POLL!!

[UberLutheran]

At last -- a break in the craziness!

What "rights" do gays and lesbians "deserve" to have. Take the poll, the come out fighting.

In the right corner, we have...

In the left corner, we have...

 

[tulc]

Voted #10, cause that's how I roll!
tulc(one of "those" Christians)

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I voted 9, but it's ok, I can't marry men either. I believe marriage to be merely a sex permit, and same-sex sex is sin, so uh.. what's the point? The point is they should have the same rights, but isn't marriage also between a man and a woman? Not "someone you love" or any of that romantic stuff.

 

[Catholicon]

Marriage is more than a "sex permit" it also allows for legal rights such as next-of-kin, and all that other stuff. Marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one, in today's society.

Where was option 11? "All the rights that black people enjoy"?

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Marriage is more than a "sex permit" it also allows for legal rights such as next-of-kin, and all that other stuff. Marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one, in today's society.

Where was option 11? "All the rights that black people enjoy"?

Guess I'm speaking in a spiritual sense, which is yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

 

[Catholicon]

In a spiritual sense, I regard marriage as a union of two souls.

The gender (or even the ethnicity) of the physical bodies that those souls have is completely irrelevant.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

In a spiritual sense, I regard marriage as a union of two souls.

The gender (or even the ethnicity) of the physical bodies that those souls have is completely irrelevant.

Ah, but it does! *throw scripture condemning same-sex sex.*

 

[StrawberryShortcake2]

Everyone should have equal rights regardless of their sexual orientation

 

[Catholicon]

Well then blame God. He obviously forgot about that piece of scripture when he made some people homosexual.

Or maybe God just changed his mind within the last 2000 years since the Bible was written. It wouldn't be the first time that God changed his mind about something.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Catholicon,
God didnt make anyone homosexual, in the beginning He made them male and female so that a man shall leave his father and mother and be united with his wife and the two shall become one flesh. God didnt make anyone homosexual or heterosexual for that matter, He made man and woman, 'sexuality' is a new and confused human way of thinking which is outside God's purposes.

 

[Ohioprof]

Dear Catholicon,
God didnt make anyone homosexual, in the beginning He made them male and female so that a man shall leave his father and mother and be united with his wife and the two shall become one flesh. God didnt make anyone homosexual or heterosexual for that matter, He made man and woman, 'sexuality' is a new and confused human way of thinking which is outside God's purposes.

I disagree with you. There are many things I don't know, but one thing I do know is that God made me gay. And it is a blessing.

 

[lincolngreen50]

I disagree with you. There are many things I don't know, but one thing I do know is that God made me gay. And it is a blessing.

I disagree with you.God designed you as a Woman to bear Children and be fruitful and multiply and spread your bloodline.
Ones desires can take over and one can be overtaken by temptation which becomes more desirable.
God gave us the power to decide whether we follow His Word or not and also what path we take in life.
By becoming a Born again Christian and being indwelled by the Holy Spirit,the Helper can guide one and help one make the right decision in ones life.
Putting ones whole trust and belief in the Father through His Son Jesus Christ is the only way to everlasting life.

 

[OllieFranz]

I disagree with you.God designed you as a Woman to bear Children and be fruitful and multiply and spread your bloodline.

Whatever other arguments you may or may not have for your claims against homosexuality, this argument does not hold water. Otherwise you are saying that Paul was in error when he said it was better not to marry. Or that God made a mistake when a woman is barren or her husband is sterile. If an exception can be made in your blanket statement for these examples, then there is no logical reason why the same exception can't be made for homosexuality.

 

[dayhiker]

I said that homosexuals should have all the rights of heterosexuals.

I don't think those that are outside the homosexual experience can tell those inside the homosexual experience that God made them a certian way. Its clear they are the ones with the inside experience and know better than those that don't have that experience.

dayhiker

 

[BreadAlone]

I think that a homosexual union with equal status as marriage LEAGLLY, but not within the church etc., should be formed for homosexuals. God instituted marriage as between ONE man and ONE woman, and thus it should remain. But our country isn't based upon the Bible..it's based upon freedom. And from a social standpoint, this is how I view the matter.

 

[Ohioprof]

I disagree with you.God designed you as a Woman to bear Children and be fruitful and multiply and spread your bloodline.
Ones desires can take over and one can be overtaken by temptation which becomes more desirable.
God gave us the power to decide whether we follow His Word or not and also what path we take in life.
By becoming a Born again Christian and being indwelled by the Holy Spirit,the Helper can guide one and help one make the right decision in ones life.
Putting ones whole trust and belief in the Father through His Son Jesus Christ is the only way to everlasting life.

No, that's not true. Motherhood is a choice, not something dictated by God. I have chosen to be a mother, but it has nothing to do with my "bloodline," or more accurately, passing on my genes. I have chosen to be an adoptive mother. Many women choose not to bear children at all. Women do a lot more than bear and raise children. Besides being an adoptive mother, I have chosen to be a professor and to have a challenging career.

I did not choose to be gay. But I would never un-choose it if I could. I am glad that God made me gay, and I celebrate how God made me.

Even had I been born heterosexual, I would still have chosen to be an adoptive mother, not a biological mother.

 

[Ohioprof]

I think that a homosexual union with equal status as marriage LEAGLLY, but not within the church etc., should be formed for homosexuals. God instituted marriage as between ONE man and ONE woman, and thus it should remain. But our country isn't based upon the Bible..it's based upon freedom. And from a social standpoint, this is how I view the matter.

I agree with you, except that some churches do perform same-sex marriages, and they should have that freedom. My church performs same-sex marriages.

 

[Ohioprof]

I said that homosexuals should have all the rights of heterosexuals.

I don't think those that are outside the homosexual experience can tell those inside the homosexual experience that God made them a certian way. Its clear they are the ones with the inside experience and know better than those that don't have that experience.

dayhiker

Good insight. Good post.

 

[BreadAlone]

I agree with you, except that some churches do perform same-sex marriages, and they should have that freedom. My church performs same-sex marriages.

I agree that in our country they should have the right, but it doesn't make it right..

 

[Ohioprof]

I agree that in our country they should have the right, but it doesn't make it right..

That depends on how you view it. I believe it is right for my church to perform same-sex marriages, and I think it's wrong for churches to refuse to perform them. But they are free to refuse to do this if they want to.