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Last time I checked, that is less than 3,500.
Nonsense as a reply does not and will never elevate your TOE past the criteria for storytelling. The more you find and research the worse and more inconsistent your theory gets, not better. eg Ardi and 150 years years or more of knucklewalking ancestry down the dunny.
We just give up, no seriously that's what we do, anything, anything at all is a better spending of time than refuting your points which, both shouldn't need refuting and we've already refuted.Fence sitters are no better.
I have made my point and you are unable to refute me. Your replies are a testimony to it.
Perhaps when you make up your mind if you believe in God or not I will take you more seriously.
You're right, it's impossible for sediment to be deposited, resuspended, and then deposited again.
You're right, paleontologists shouldn't ever say 'we think an organism should be here, but we can't find it! Lets keep looking'.
You're right, we shouldn't give descriptive names to structural features that are common in compressional tectonic regimes.
This term has been obsolete since plate tectonics became the dominant theory in crustal geology. Nothing like arguing against something you don't even understand.
It is, because there is no evidence for it, it rarely makes testable predictions, and when it has, they have turned out to be false. It is a theory that has been completely disproved time and time again since even the earliest days of geology.
Why did you just insert Neanderthal into that verse like it belongs? You can't just add words to the bible in order to make it say what you want. Come on, man.
Orogeny meet cupid dave, his interpretations will astound you and he is far more set in his ways than any creationist I have ever met, he thinks that he is reading the Bible literally.
He was talking about creationism....
We just give up, no seriously that's what we do, anything, anything at all is a better spending of time than refuting your points which, both shouldn't need refuting and we've already refuted.
Yes אָדָם means man... however I don't see how this relates to your unbiblical idea that Adam wasn't homo sapiens
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You think I am not?
Give me your explanation of "in the beginning" if it does not refer to the big bang start of time we now calculate as 13.5 billion years ago.
I do not have to get into a convoluted locking of horns with you or anyone. Debating and facing off theory against theory is pointless.
Stop with the big bang. I have presented evidence of an earth centred universe. You simply will ignore it and carry on with your really bizarre reasonings of talking apes and half wits. I do not want to talk with you. You make absolutely no sense to me at all.
Again I say it does not matter if you or others do not like an earth centres universe and it does not matter if you do not like biblical crearionism. It does not matter if you can knit pick using your own theories to challenge the research. The point is all this goes on in big bang naturalism and everytheory there are many annomolies.
Your theories are even more non plausable than evolutionary ones. Why don't you defend your ape heads being able to talk and refute the points I made, instead of sidewinding onto dating? This is why you are impossible to have a conversation with. You just go on and on and on with pictures than prove nothing while being unable to defend one of your basic principles that ape heads had sophisticated language, talked to God and knew right from wrong. I am also not defending flat earthers because I have sailed around the world and did not fall off.
I have gone around in enough evolutionary circles so I am not going to play in whatever land you are in. I am not trying to turn anyone like you are. I am just demonstrating that those evos that believe creationists are ignorant and like to ridicule them are baseless and foolish themselves.
Biblical creationist theory can be no worse than evolutionary theory but I think both are better than yours.
ADDIT.. you have done it again. Please explain how ape heads talk and stop pasting up useless pictures that mean nothing.........
astridhere said:To refute me you will have to refute the notion that evolutionary thinking changes like the wind. Re chimps humans, 1% difference supports evolution, 6% difference supports evolution, and 90% difference would still be made out to support evolution.Junk DNA was shoved in creationists faces and supports evolution and functional non coding dna also supports evolution. Gradual change was not found so poofing from one kind into another in a very short space of time also supports evolution. LUCA was undeniable proof of evolution and LUCAs death by HGT means nothing and does not falsify evolution Mendellian inheritance was the only form of inheritance and hence mutations explain evolution and now HGT and epigentics plays a vital role in evolution and still proves evolution.
No they're not, you are reading your ideas into the text perverting both the bible and the scientific thought you claim to represent.Yes.
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Theistic evolutionists for the most part make no statements one way or another on endless genealogies.The Theistic Evolutionists believe that the genealogy refers to species, not individuals who would have lived an inordinately and unsubportedly excessive long life of 950 years in some cases.
Where do we stop with this interpretation, did Joshua and the Israelites march around Jericho 7000 years?The Theistic Evolution Bible believers say that a day is a thousand years to god, so he was actually referring to 950,000 years.
There are more than 22 links, whatever you mean by that, you fail to understand sorites paradox in your understanding of evolutionary theory.That length of time corresponds with the species we understand to be the 22 links to modern man.
I have given you my explanation before, again even though I am a Theistic Evolutionist, I accept that the creation account found in Genesis 1 is best placed 6000 years ago.?
You think I am not?
Give me your explanation of "in the beginning" if it does not refer to the big bang start of time we now calculate as 13.5 billion years ago.
Haven't I? Well I think that's because your evidence seems to be smoke and mirrors, based entirely on an understanding of science and evolutionary theory.You have not refuted my evidence at all.
I have said as have many other evolutionists both atheistic and theistic that change in theory does not invalidate it.Do I need to list all the changes, some of which were huge changes in thinking. I have spoken to sufficient examples. In fact it takes only one and the knuckle walking fiasco is sufficient to demonstrate my point.
You are setting up to disprove evolutionary hypotheses rather than evolutionary theory. You bring up these ideas about chimps and humans as if the entirety of the theory rests on this, it does not, all you are doing is at most disproving a hypothesis, but you aren't even doing that! You barely understand the science you try to twaddle on about and you call us "wofflers"[sic] simply because you don't understand.To refute me you will have to refute the notion that evolutionary thinking changes like the wind.
How do similarities in DNA prove creationism? If God created why would he make all his creatures similar?Re chimps humans, 1% difference supports evolution, 6% difference supports evolution, and 90% difference would still be made out to support evolution.
Why wouldn't it? How does creationism deal with these phenomena?Junk DNA was shoved in creationists faces and supports evolution and functional non coding dna also supports evolution.
You seem to misunderstand punctuated equilibrium and gradualism, it doesn't need to be either or, it can quite happily be both and.Gradual change was not found so poofing from one kind into another in a very short space of time also supports evolution.
I don't know enough to comment on this sorry.LUCA was undeniable proof of evolution and LUCAs death by HGT means nothing and does not falsify evolutionMendellian inheritance was the only form of inheritance and hence mutations explain evolution and now HGT and epigentics plays a vital role in evolution and still proves evolution.
Indeed previous theories should not be falsified. If they are based on a correct assumption the initial theory should remain solid and new information just clarify and enhance. Good theories that have some basis on a true assumption become outdated but are not falsified continually like evos ones are.
Who is saying that? That would be a silly thing to say. We also make no assertions about our future understanding of any scientific field, unlike how it was in Newton's time, you know we don't actually use newtonian gravity theory that much anymore, it has been replaced for the most part by Einstein's theory of relativity. This change has been far more significant than anything seen in Biology over the past 150 years as far as I know.If you are denying there has been substantial changes in evolutionary thinking then all you are presenting is your most humble ignorance of your own science.Indeed you will have to deny much before we reach the end of this discussion.
You are so racist, so in contempt of God's writ and creation that I don't know where to begin, by your words you are misrepresenting science giving creationists more strawmen that they can burn. If you truly want to be a good witness to what theistic evolutionary and scientific thought says then please read up on these topics: (books I'd recommend are in brackets)Since god drove all men to extinct (gen 6) except Noah and the three racial stocks of Caucaians, negroids, and mongolians... the implication is that Neanderthals who disappeared exactly 40 thousand years ago were killed off by the flood of Modern homos.
Well you have every right to discard the Reality which is our father in this life and to ignore The Truth which is our savior, so I understand your position.
But the idea that your reading comprehension is so poor as to avoid the connection with the beginning and the big bang would certainly flunck your book report in a high school classroom.
Well you have every right to discard the Reality which is our father in this life and to ignore The Truth which is our savior, so I understand your position.
But the idea that your reading comprehension is so poor as to avoid the connection with the beginning and the big bang would certainly flunck your book report in a high school classroom.
Yes.
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The Theistic Evolutionists believe that the genealogy refers to species, not individuals who would have lived an inordinately and unsubportedly excessive long life of 950 years in some cases.
The Theistic Evolution Bible believers say that a day is a thousand years to god, so he was actually referring to 950,000 years.
That length of time corresponds with the species we understand to be the 22 links to modern man.
But the idea that your reading comprehension is so poor as to avoid the connection with the beginning and the big bang would certainly flunck your book report in a high school classroom.
You are setting up to disprove evolutionary hypotheses rather than evolutionary theory. You bring up these ideas about chimps and humans as if the entirety of the theory rests on this, it does not, all you are doing is at most disproving a hypothesis, but you aren't even doing that! You barely understand the science you try to twaddle on about and you call us "wofflers"[sic] simply because you don't understand.
How do similarities in DNA prove creationism? If God created why would he make all his creatures similar?
God did not make all creatures similar at all. Evolutionary researchers have made all creatures similar as their intial straw grab by deciding on what to compare and what to ignore. If one ignores differences what you will get is similarity which to me is a fraudulent misrepresentation to the community.
Life is food chain. There must be similarities as we uptake nutrients from other life forms.
You evos must think that for creationism to be true life must be distincly different. Any similarity at all would be heralded as a link. This is ridiculous thinking. All life must contain some similarity in creation firstly simply because it is 'alive' and all life will require similar machinery. Secondly all life forms a food chain.
Indeed what makes evolutionary theory ridiculous is the same point really. Evos suggested life arose once. That is a silly assertion. Why only once?. Then with HGT evos now believe life arose multiple times and shared DNA. That is the story you invented to cover the DNA falsification found.
The problem for me with this is by evolutionists own theory to save themselves they have inadvertantly admitted that all life that arose multiple times must have been so similar that living cells were actually able to horizontally transfer genes.
Hence, you have no basis for common ancestry as all life that arises is going to be similar.
Why wouldn't it? How does creationism deal with these phenomena?
The lynchpin for evolutionists was why would God create useless DNA. A creationist prediction is that God would not make useless DNA. Indeed what is being found more and more with robust research is that non coding DNA is functional, which is now beginning to support creationist predictions without creationists having to resort to the reinvention of more stories and apply knee jerk changes to line up with new data with creationism, which is what have evos do on a continual basis.
You seem to misunderstand punctuated equilibrium and gradualism, it doesn't need to be either or, it can quite happily be both and.
In other words TOE has no predictive ability.
Again, however, what I seek most is to demonstrate that evolutionists have no basis to feel superior to creationists by offering 150 years of instability, change, clear falsifications and flavour of the month as evolutionary support.
So face off theory against theory as much as you like. You evolutionists seriously have no basis for feeling superior or ridiculing creationists.
For the second part of the above statement, we don't feel superior to creationists, we just think the two subjects are not in the same field and should not be compared. One is science, the other is not.
As for the bold part of your statement:
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