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Evolution is descent with modification (Darwin's term) or a change in allele frequencies in a population (modern synthesis). This is directly observed. You might as well deny gravity. The fact of evolution is not debatable. How it happens is evolutionary theory.Doesn't that assume evolution is true? If evolution is not true, then of course there will be debates about things of the most fundamental nature of the theory.
Adam and Eve did not have a full body working to allow them to eat and defecate... and a brain to allow him to do that?That's not what it says. Nothing about "fully formed and complex." That's someone's addition to God's word.
My degrees are in biology and systems. But I don't need a physicist to apply Newton's laws.Yes, you do need scientists to tell you things. Because there are different fields in science.
You can add stuff that seems right to you, of course. But that's not God's word. It's just your additions. Why not just accept it the way God said it?Adam and Eve did not have a full body working to allow them to eat and defecate... and a brain to allow him to do that?
Okay. That's your view.
Again, additions to scripture. In ancient times, no one had any idea of the way a brain functioned. People thought the mind was in the heart.According to the Bible... Adam had a brain, a mouth, a stomach...
Give that it's made of many millions of cells, that's not surprising. What's impressive is that the known universe has all sorts of "brains" from the super complex multibrain system of octopuses to mere collections of ganglia. And all sorts of transitional stages in between.The human brain is considered one of the most complex structures in the known universe, far surpassing the complexity of a single cell.
Consciousness may be an epiphenomenon of the brain, but that's not all it is. The question of consciousness has not been resolved.The brain's complexity is not just about the number of neurons but also about the myriad connections and interactions between them, which give rise to consciousness and other cognitive functions.
I had to correct you on several misconceptions you have about the Bible. You don't seem to know much of the Bible or of science. No scientific theory can be antiChrist, because science can't even comment on the supernatural. Why not take a little time to read up on these things and then come back and take part in the discussion?It doesn't sound like you know much about the Bible.
Evolution is descent with modification (Darwin's term) or a change in allele frequencies in a population (modern synthesis). This is directly observed. You might as well deny gravity. The fact of evolution is not debatable. How it happens is evolutionary theory.
My degrees are in biology and systems. But I don't need a physicist to apply Newton's laws.
CoreyD said:
According to the Bible... Adam had a brain, a mouth, a stomach...
So, you don't think Adam had a functioning brain.Again, additions to scripture. In ancient times, no one had any idea of the way a brain functioned. People thought the mind was in the heart.
I see you've already been given some examples of the evolution of new species, and I'll add some more.Please indulge me.
I see you've already been given some examples of the evolution of new species, and I'll add some more.
Examples of Speciation
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If your reply is going to be that those aren't "kinds" I have to ask what a "kind" is.
Huh? Speciation has been done in labs and documented in the field.They don't demonstrate this is happening, they assume it is happening. They have theories on how this is happening, but that's it. Nothing concrete.
Huh? Speciation has been done in labs and documented in the field.
I see no reason to deny it.
Sure we do! It can mean different things depending on what type of organisms we're working with, such as asexual vs. sexual reproducers, but we still know when we've seen a new species evolve. In most cases it's just a matter of reproductive isolation.We don't even know what a species is...
"Squirrel" isn't a species. Do you remember the taxonomic system you learned in high school? Sorry you find biology boring. I think it's very interesting.And we are talking about a squirrel turning into a squirrel. The stuff is boring to read, and it all sounds like stuff for itching ears.
The only thing here that is a joke is your response to observed instances of speciation. If you have a problem with reality, that's on you.LOL. What a joke. I see nothing in this that could be described as from one "kind" to another. Wow, super minor differences between stuff that can't make offspring, so cool!
The Bible is true in what it affirms, but it need not be scientifically accurate.The Bible is not a scientific book. I agree on that. Neither is the Bible anti-scientific. That is where you are wrong. The Bible does not get things factually wrong. Maybe our interpretation needs to change or maybe our science needs to change, but the Bible is not wrong.
And I think you are putting WAY too much emphasis on ancient Israelite cosmology. If it's not a science book, then it doesn't answer scientific questions, and cosmology is a scientific question. Also, see my first point. From your point of view, we have no reason to believe the first verse of the Bible unless it is first proven with science. If we were before big bang cosmology, then you, as a scientist, would believe the universe was eternal.
Which is another reason why scientists and most Christians reject YEC. If YEC was correct, we'd see nice, discreet boundaries between species. Instead, we see transitional populations, half-species, quarter-species, and so on. This was predicted by Darwin, because it would have to be like that if evolution of new species was a fact.Everyone agrees that small, minor changes happen over time. But we don't even know what a species is...
Sort of like an hominoid turning into a hominoid. You've just accepted the evolution of humans from other apes.And we are talking about a squirrel turning into a squirrel.
Which is another reason why scientists and most Christians reject YEC. If YEC was correct, we'd see nice, discreet boundaries between species. Instead, we see transitional populations, half-species, quarter-species, and so on. This was predicted by Darwin, because it would have to be like that if evolution of new species was a fact.
Sort of like an hominoid turning into a hominoid. You've just accepted the evolution of humans from other apes.
You losing sleep over it? Why not just accept it God's way?Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Why not just accept it God's way?
I do it a little differently. I check what God says, and go with that. Worth a try? You might find it easier to sleep at night, too.Do you often say your opinion is "God's way"?
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