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what Law did Jesus replace?

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All this already happened ozell.

They were sacrificing animals all over again, even though Christ was raised from the dead.

the 'temple' was destroyed in 70 A.D.

Zeena

has this happened

Mt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16: Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

is it safe to say that this separates it from 70AD?

we have had far worst times than 70 AD.
 
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Zeena;54051311]LOL!

AS IF I'm obliged to you!
I owe you NOTHING but LOVE!

Then ask the brother you love do he believe in that instead of relying on another!


I do NOT owe you the courtesy of reading every word of every disertation you espuse! ROFL!

then don't assume I believe in something you have not read from me!

Though, I am interested if you espuse such a thing as animal sacrifices for sin, seeing Jesus is the atonement for such, once for all.

if you understood the topic and read my post I've been sayin that Jesus replaced the laws of animal sacrifce!!!


If you're not then why are you saying the following?

In which post did you originally assert this?

read the post 509
 
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Light hearted;54057091]Let's dig into this abit...Do you truely believe that after one has been told the knowledge of truth, that one is expected to never wilfully sin again. By posting Hebrews 10:26 you are leaning towards this view.

Lh

It is written, do I expect to believe it, yes because it is written you read it, do you believe everyword in this book called God's word?

LH do you steal, since you know stealing is against the laws of God?
since you know that it's wrong, you wwilling doing it, without regard to the word of God.

For if we willfully sin after that we have received the knowledge of truth. Ozell, that leaves only one wilfull sin after receiving the knowledge of truth. In your view that's it, done deal, doomed deal.

where did you see me write doomed or done deal LH?

read it again and tell me what you think it means, Iknow what it means it means exactly what it says, Lets read it again.

this is what it means

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

and lets finish it

27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.


28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

what is your understanding of this?

Mine understanding is exactly what it says!

Ok, now in order for me to know my sin, I need to know all 600 laws, or how ever many there are. Once I know "all" the laws, then if i sin, I would have sinned willingly, done deal, doomed deal. My knowledge brings death.

who told you that you need to know all 600 laws LH? more than half of the 600 laws pertain to animal sacrifce and thats done away with. the rest of the 600 pertain to the 10 commandments.

LH show me some of the 600 laws you are talking about!

you knowledge of sin brings death? read that to me from the bible please.

lets quote what Paul said

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

the payement of sin is death, not the knowledge.


Now on the flip side, my best chance is to know absolutly no laws what so ever, this would give me a better chance of not commiting a willful sin. If I don't know it was unlawfull, I didn't sin, now my ignorance saves me.

what did the verse say

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

yet you cannot get away from knowing NO laws LH, Jesus said in the New Covenant which everyone like to quote, but don't understand

Jesus said

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

9: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10: For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

The Laws are God will be on everyone mind and heart, this is the New Covenant!

Now this goes against your request to "know" and read the Bible to help bring salvation. In Hebrews 10, I'd be better off knowing none of the Bible.

NO! Paul told you throughout his writing not to be ignorant

1Thes 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

2Cor 2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.


2Cor 1:8 For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measur

1Cor 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

1Cor 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

ignorance is not an excuse.

I just don't see how your interpertation comes full circle.

this is because you don't understand sin.


LH

that wicked man who TURNED from his sin STOP sinning!

of course God is merciful are we not born in sin, even if we sin ignorantly its still sin and the bible say the wages of sin is death.

how many time shall a man who know adultery is wrong continue to commit adultery and think he is getting away with it.

how many time can this man ask forgiveness of this wilfull sin that he continue to commit

lets read

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

since he know that it is wrong and he continue to do it haow many time can he get on his knees and ask forgiveness?

keep in mind to LH this is what he has to look forward to

27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries

because he trodden underfoot the blood of Jesus!

28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Now LH

what law did Jesus replace since you are acknowledging that the commandments are still intact today?
 
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Micah 6:7
Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?.


Jesus replaced the laws of animal sacrifice!

good find!!!!
 
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Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
 
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Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?2: God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3: Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4: Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

we should but many don't.

Mt 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.13: But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

sin will increase and those that endure unto the end they will be saved.

but sin is here and it is rampant because people do not want to hear and know or follow the commandments of God.

the pastor have taught the Christian that they are nailed to the cross and are no more!

when there is no law, what is left?

SIN!!!
 
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JESUS SAID HE CaME TO FULFILL.

have you fulfilled the commandments of "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 10Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law

have you fulfilled this? or do you have to continue as long as you are alive?
 
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Lh

Put all that aside,

church folks always use this and I always ask them to show mw this in the bible of course with no avail.

lets look at some of thses sinners they say we should love.

A liar and and the abominble person will not be in God's kingdom.

Rv 21v22: And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23: And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24: And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25: And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26: And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27: And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life

also

Rv 22v7: Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
8: And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9: Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10: And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
11: He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12: And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14: Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15: For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

look at these people we are suppose to love and hate their sin did,

yet they DID NOT to get into the kingdom of God.

Surely God would have loved them enough to let them in.

yet you and others say I should.

I should love a person who steals from me
I should love a person who rapes my daughter
I should love a person who kills my parents

read this you who by into this nonsense love the sinner but hate the sin.

Mt 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

then the sinner have my love.

stop sinning!
 
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Let's see, shall we?
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Yo Zeena, 1 John 1 was written specifically to the Gnostics or Sadducees whom doesn't believe in the Resurrection of Christ or the Triparted GOD Hence those who kept harping over this doesn't have Wisdom for they know not how to rightly divide the Word of Christo

Let's see, shall we?
James 5:16
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Basically if you check with any Bible Scholars on the abov, they'll tell you that it's asking the believers to talk about the shortcomings they have for encouragements & it's not the Devil's REligion like most ppl know about confession of sins Check it out yourself.

This is NOT to say that the Holy Spirit is going to speak PEACE over you while you continue to walk after your FLESH!-LOL!
The Holy Spirit will WARN you of the DANGER of continuing in sin.

On the contrary, the Holy Spirit doesn't nag me of my sins nor any believer but He :-

John 16:8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

John 16:9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;

Told you so right Zeena, The Holy Spirit only convicts the World of SIN (Singular) because they do not believe onto Jesus

John 16:11 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;

This is for me for I believe in my Lord Christ Jesus FINISHED Works & I've been given His Robe of Righteousness apart fm my works for I count ALL my works (No Matter How Nobel) as DUNGS I trust not in my Flesh but HIS Gift of Righteousness


Sorry, i don't deny my sins, I Honor my LORD Christ Jesus for HIS Work on that broken Cross have washed me Eternally of all my sins hence am Forever Righteous to my LORD apart fm my works I Put NO Faith in my self efforts, all my Faith is in HIS Efforts

You must have deeper revelations that Paul was addressing the Corinthians church in the above was what I've just replied you above that I trust my LORD Christ Jesus & Not myself REad the Whole context.

YET, SHOULD we walk after the flesh, we need to confess that, and be DONE with it, turning BACK to Jesus to CONTINUE receiving His Image, even the END, the Salvation of our SOULS!!!

Wow Zeena, Didn't know that you've such an LOW Estimation of our LORD's Eternal Finished Work on that Cross. Wonder which Devil taught you the above?

Don't you know all Believers are Saved the very moment they call onto our LORD Christ Jesus?

Do you also not know that all Believers are SEALED in the Holy Spirit?

Do you also Not know the Following:-

Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? [Shall] tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come,

Yo Zeena, RESOUNDSINGLY LOUD enough for you? NOTHING Sister

Romans 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Paul really had a Revelation via The Holy Spirit Now, when a Believer sins, is that Things CREATED? What the above says?

Better Yet :-

Romans 8:34 Who [is] he who condemns? [It is] Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

Maybe your memory needs refreshing Zeena?

Isaiah 54:17 And their righteousness [is] from Me," Says the LORD.



Let Scripture Interpret Scriptures to see who is CONFUSED

John 13:7 Jesus answered and said to him, "What I am doing you do not understand now, but you will know after this."

Then please contrast with the following:-

EPH 5:26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,

Told you so earlier that by WASHING the Believer (you) with the WORD of Christo that You are Eternally Righteous/ Eternally Sanctified - am actually washing off all the Dirt you've accumilated all these years via Perversed teaching that isn't the Gospel Christ Died to give us
 
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I love . and that is enough .

Jesus fulfilled the other part and indwells me .

so as far as God is concerned .

As long as i love (His definition)

then i have fulfilled His requirements

I am His son and He is my papa and we like to dance .

bless .
 
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Luke 6:35 "But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked."
 
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I'll get to your post after you answer two questions brother;

1) Do you have FLESH to contend with?

I'm guessing you are aware that you have flesh to contend with?
We don't DEAL with the flesh, Christ does, in and through us as we abide by Grace through faith!

FLESH being; Ways of thinking, feeling, choosing and doing you became accustomed to APART from the Life of God in Christ?

IOW when you were YET unregenerate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-y3vVw3MiU
 
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Where is this to be found in Scripture?

1 Cor 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
 
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Where is this to be found in Scripture?

1 Cor 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Revelations 21:2-5 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from GOD, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

I also refer you to Ezekiel 39-48.

Our Body is the temple of the Holy Ghost right now, I am referring to the day of our Lord.
 
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What does the word NOW mean to you?

"Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them.
 
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What does the word NOW mean to you?

"Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them.

I go by scripture, please read the Ezekiel reference completely before refuting my beliefs. Thank You!

God physically does not live with us right now, not like Ezekiel prophecies about and this is what I believe.

"Now" will be after the judgement is passed (which has not happened yet), this I am certain of.
 
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Romans 8:11
And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.
 
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